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  • TheAccountant
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    • 11-03-09
    • 658

    #36
    The one mistake I see here -- why trade to an AFC playoff contender? I think an NFC trade could have been found.
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    • slacker00
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-06-05
      • 12262

      #37
      Originally posted by TheAccountant
      The one mistake I see here -- why trade to an AFC playoff contender? I think an NFC trade could have been found.
      Maybe they consider the guy so bad that it's like throwing a live grenade into a foxhole.
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      • TheAccountant
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-03-09
        • 658

        #38
        Maybe Slacker..but after last season I can see why they're taking their chances

        The Jets do seem to like taking chances, have to give them that
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        • stealthyburrito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-12-09
          • 21562

          #39
          so they're willing to put up with big ben shenanigans but not holmes? double standard?
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          • TheAccountant
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-03-09
            • 658

            #40
            Holmes failed a drug test - but still seems like a double standard

            I surely wouldn't want to be banking on Dennis Dixon though
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            • Rig
              SBR Sharp
              • 11-05-09
              • 458

              #41
              I like how the jets take a realistic view of the draft
              they hand out lotto tickets for star players
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              • jetsjets1028
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                • 02-10-10
                • 1234

                #42
                good my jets can use him for WR
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                • PAULYPOKER
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                  • 12-06-08
                  • 36581

                  #43
                  Let me educate you guys on proven players just because they are good with team A does not mean you can plug them into BtoZ and they will work fine, the more you mix already made personalities into the equation the more you are asking for disaster
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                  • icancount2one
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-05-10
                    • 1507

                    #44
                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                    Let me educate you guys on proven players just because they are good with team A does not mean you can plug them into BtoZ and they will work fine, the more you mix already made personalities into the equation the more you are asking for disaster
                    So, you think this is the case with quarterbacks but not wide receivers? LOL!
                    Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                    • PAULYPOKER
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                      • 12-06-08
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by icancount2one
                      So, you think this is the case with quarterbacks but not wide receivers? LOL!
                      I don't know why I'm explaining this to you but feel I have to QB.s= Leaders WR.s= sit down and shut up
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                      • icancount2one
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-05-10
                        • 1507

                        #46
                        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                        I don't know why I'm explaining this to you but feel I have to QB.s= Leaders WR.s= sit down and shut up
                        Could you be a little more condescending? I wouldn't ask you for "education" or "explanation" on anything more complicated than how to make a ham sandwich.

                        Mark Sanchez looks like he's going to be a good QB. The Jets O-line is solid, and they already have a good #1 receiver in Braylon Edwards. You can't double both of them.

                        How in the world should Santonio Holmes not be able to just plug right in??
                        Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                        • 1UP
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                          • 01-20-10
                          • 356

                          #47
                          Braylon Edwards is not even a good slot receiver. The guy's greatest consistency is his inconsistency. That game against Miami was a fluke. He reverted to dropping passes every other Jets game I watched.

                          Anyway, nice move on paper, but I think the Jets are doing too much. Rex Ryan has always been great with obscure, overlooked talent. They've gotten worse if you ask me. The trade-off's like Thomas Jones for LT are laughable. It just looks like they're making a freak show and I'm sure HBO will love it.

                          Also, yes there is a double standard, because they owe Ben a lot of money; and two, a franchise QB is far more valuable than a #1 WR in this situation. Holmes can't stay out of trouble. Why keep him when the draft is chock full of good WR's? They made the right move.
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                          • PAULYPOKER
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                            • 12-06-08
                            • 36581

                            #48
                            Originally posted by 1UP
                            Braylon Edwards is not even a good slot receiver. The guy's greatest consistency is his inconsistency. That game against Miami was a fluke. He reverted to dropping passes every other Jets game I watched. Anyway, nice move on paper, but I think the Jets are doing too much. Rex Ryan has always been great with obscure, overlooked talent. They've gotten worse if you ask me. The trade-off's like Thomas Jones for LT are laughable. It just looks like they're making a freak show and I'm sure HBO will love it. Also, yes there is a double standard, because they owe Ben a lot of money; and two, a franchise QB is far more valuable than a #1 WR in this situation. Holmes can't stay out of trouble. Why keep him when the draft is chock full of good WR's? They made the right move.
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                            • icancount2one
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-05-10
                              • 1507

                              #49
                              Originally posted by 1UP
                              Braylon Edwards is not even a good slot receiver. The guy's greatest consistency is his inconsistency. That game against Miami was a fluke. He reverted to dropping passes every other Jets game I watched.

                              Anyway, nice move on paper, but I think the Jets are doing too much. Rex Ryan has always been great with obscure, overlooked talent. They've gotten worse if you ask me. The trade-off's like Thomas Jones for LT are laughable. It just looks like they're making a freak show and I'm sure HBO will love it.

                              Also, yes there is a double standard, because they owe Ben a lot of money; and two, a franchise QB is far more valuable than a #1 WR in this situation. Holmes can't stay out of trouble. Why keep him when the draft is chock full of good WR's? They made the right move.
                              You're right that Edwards has been inconsistent, but I think he's very talented. I don't understand the TJ for LT tradeoff, but maybe the jets know something we don't. Also, who backs up Shonn Greene isn't the biggest deal.

                              But with the addition of the undeniably talented Antonio Cromartie and Santonio Holmes (who went for 12,000 yards last year), how can you think that the Jets have gotten worse in the off-season?
                              Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                              • blanda
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-18-09
                                • 728

                                #50
                                Mike Wallace will step up for the Steelers...
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                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                  • 12-06-08
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by blanda
                                  Mike Wallace will step up for the Steelers...
                                  He already did thats why Steelers gave Holmes the boot
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                                  • PAULYPOKER
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                                    • 12-06-08
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                                    #52
                                    "The Steelers were prepared to release wide receiver Santonio Holmes had they not been able to trade him, sources told the Post-Gazette today.
                                    They took the best deal they could find late Sunday night -- a fifth-round choice in the April 22-24 draft from the New York Jets. It was the best offer they received after talking to a number of other NFL teams about trading Holmes.
                                    The trade came one day after a report on Profootballtalk.com that Holmes faces a four-game suspension in the 2010 season for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy, which was confirmed today by the Post-Gazette.
                                    Although it has not been announced whether Holmes will be charged in Orlando after a woman claimed he threw a glass in her face at a club early last month, the Steelers obviously had enough with their sometimes brilliant but often troubled wide receiver.
                                    Holmes helped deliver the franchise its sixth Lombardi Trophy with his spectacular touchdown catch that won Super Bowl XL and brought him the game's MVP trophy. That came several months after coach Mike Tomlin made him inactive for one game after his arrest for marijuana by Pittsburgh police, a charge that ultimately was dropped."
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                                    • PAULYPOKER
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                                      • 12-06-08
                                      • 36581

                                      #53
                                      Holmes and Edwards should get along good going out together forming their own kings of krunk gang
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                                      • iwantcougars
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-29-09
                                        • 2156

                                        #54
                                        the steelers need to draft a couple of wr in the draft, decker from minn and williams from illinois are good options, too bad gate from nd will be gone when they pick on the 2nd (or they could trade up for him with the extra 5th rounder), and hope they hit with another wallace.

                                        If a team trades a player do they get a compensatory pick or it's only if the player walks away via free agency?????????
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                                        • waco66
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                                          • 04-14-09
                                          • 1645

                                          #55
                                          Holmes is a #1 reciever...anyone thinking different has not seen him play.
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                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                            • 12-06-08
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by waco66
                                            Holmes is a #1 reciever...anyone thinking different has not seen him play.
                                            On the Jets team yes.... on a handful of others no.......
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                                            • msec512
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-02-09
                                              • 346

                                              #57
                                              Holmes is a great WR, but he can't quit smoking weed. It takes 3 failed drug tests for 4 game suspension. I real waste of talent.
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                • 12-06-08
                                                • 36581

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by msec512
                                                Holmes is a great WR, but he can't quit smoking weed. It takes 3 failed drug tests for 4 game suspension. I real waste of talent.
                                                So you are saying if he goes to either the 49ers,Chargers, or Raiders he'll be fine
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                                                • scarp
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-12-10
                                                  • 697

                                                  #59
                                                  They were going to release him otherwise. At least they got something for him
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                                                  • TheAccountant
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-03-09
                                                    • 658

                                                    #60
                                                    As this unfolds, it seems more and more clear why the Steelers traded Holmes and I can see why Jets took them. The Jets really do have a handful of personalities, coach obviously included. I have a feeling the Jets train will be coming off the tracks soon, possibly before preseason time.
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                                                    • yisman
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                      • 75682

                                                      #61
                                                      lol at Steelers fans now bashing Holmes.
                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                      [/quote]

                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                      • PAULYPOKER
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                                                        • 12-06-08
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                                                        #62
                                                        I'm not bashing Holmes I'm bashing Jets
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                                                        • yisman
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-01-08
                                                          • 75682

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by iwantcougars

                                                          If a team trades a player do they get a compensatory pick or it's only if the player walks away via free agency?????????
                                                          compensatory picks are only for FA, for obvious reasons. It would make no sense to cash in twice by trading a player for something and then getting a compensatory pick.

                                                          Additionally, if you release a guy, you don't get compensatory picks for that either.

                                                          It's only if a player becomes a FA and signs with another team, and only then if you lost more players than you signed and the round you get is based on the player's performance and how much guaranteed money he got with his new team.
                                                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                          [/quote]

                                                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                          • yisman
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-01-08
                                                            • 75682

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                            I'm not bashing Holmes I'm bashing Jets
                                                            Anyone who has read your posts in this thread knows that simply isn't true.

                                                            Fans always have a lot to say about how a player isn't that good after he leaves.
                                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                            [/quote]

                                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                                              • 12-06-08
                                                              • 36581

                                                              #65
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