Are the Eagles stupid????

ijrod21i · 03-31-10, 01:43 PM

His completion percentage is pretty terrible and if he is a bit of a choke artist, then that's all you need to not want to have that qb any longer.

Dad · 03-31-10, 01:47 PM

Kolb is good. He might surprise you.

And McNabb is overrated. But I like the guy.

Jrod124 · 03-31-10, 02:02 PM

Kolb is solid and will give them the best chance to win

arizona22 · 03-31-10, 02:32 PM

McNabb never won a Championship but he can play really well. We don't know much about Kolb. I think they should keep McNabb.

sidewinder66 · 03-31-10, 04:12 PM

Kolb is quite good and McNabb is getting older and his contract is running out. If they trade him now they can get some draft picks from a team desperate for a QB. It depends how they feel about Kolb. If they think he's ready to take over then trading McNabb seems like a good idea.

mikemca · 03-31-10, 04:38 PM

In Reid we trust.Andy is a pretty damn good coach so if he thinks its the right move then it is.

EaglesPhan36 · 03-31-10, 05:07 PM

You have to be stupid not to understand the logic here. They spent a 2nd round draft pick on Kevin Kolb and invested good money in this kid. He's at the end of his contract, so they have to find out if he's what they think he is before extending or letting him walk. McNabb has had a good run with Philly, but he's 34 and nearing the end of his contract. Can he still be a starter? Hell yeah, but this Eagles team is already in the midst of its transition to more youth - especially on offense. You HAVE TO give your young QB a chance to gel with two great young receivers and a solid young RB. If the Eagles had drafted like this during McNabb's tenure, McNabb would have been given that opportunity. It's KOLB time b-yotch.

Jonah · 03-31-10, 08:05 PM

I don't know about Stupid, but they are getting greedy...Mcnabb has one expensive year on his contract left and you ain re-signing him -- So stop asking for so much!

stealthyburrito · 03-31-10, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

You have to be stupid not to understand the logic here. They spent a 2nd round draft pick on Kevin Kolb and invested good money in this kid. He's at the end of his contract, so they have to find out if he's what they think he is before extending or letting him walk. McNabb has had a good run with Philly, but he's 34 and nearing the end of his contract. Can he still be a starter? Hell yeah, but this Eagles team is already in the midst of its transition to more youth - especially on offense. You HAVE TO give your young QB a chance to gel with two great young receivers and a solid young RB. If the Eagles had drafted like this during McNabb's tenure, McNabb would have been given that opportunity. It's KOLB time b-yotch.

well said

and if they could honestly get nnamdi out of this deal, then they clearly are the winners of that trade

AlphaOmega · 03-31-10, 09:53 PM

Klob is a good qb to replace McNabb

iwantcougars · 04-01-10, 12:33 AM

i'd trade vick (also he wont resign with the eagles next season) and play mcnabb 1 last season. Or better trade vick and mcnabb, and choke next season

icancount2one · 04-01-10, 01:48 AM

You are underselling Philly's receivers. Jackson is a legit star in the mold of Carolina's Steve Smith, and Celek is really impressive. Watch for Jason Avant's star to rise as well.

Kolb may not quite have McNabb's cannon but many scouts (and what I observed) say he has better accuracy. McNabb has played really well against the G-men in recent years, but did you catch any of the Dallas-Philly games last season? They were atrocious!

McNabb's biggest strength is that he doesn't really throw picks. Other than that, his completion percentage is inflated by the west coast system (he is the Eagles' all time leader in comp. % but that's not saying much). His prolific yardage/touchdown statistics may also speak to the fact that Reid loves to throw the ball. He is injury-prone which may suggest his work ethic is less than stellar.

Since Kolb already has the locker room and is the anointed QB of the future, let's give the kid his chance!

jsmithj88 · 04-01-10, 01:59 AM

wat mcnabb has always lacked was accuracy, which kolb shud provide
if ur offense is 65-70% passing, u need an accurate qb, and mcnabb is not consistant enuff
the eagles know wat they are doing, u dont pay a 34 year old mcnabb when u have his replacement rite there
kolb is younger, cheaper and i think he will put up similar numbers to mcnabb

teaserpleaser · 04-01-10, 08:55 AM

kolb is solid

gryfyn1 · 04-01-10, 09:40 AM

Im confused as to why people as so "sure" that Kolb is a good QB, He had one really good game last year, against the powerhouse that was KC. And a decent game vs NO. And yes he looked good, but really so did Derek Anderson for a few games.

For a team that hasnt had a stud WR or feature back in McNabbs career, Mcnabb has been the best offensive player on the team that has won 65% of its games, made 8 playoff appearances, suffered just one losing season, and has placed in the top half offenses in the league 8/10 years.

I understand the logic somewhat about dealing McNabb, but he is one of the better QBs in the league and you are really just taking a risk by going full time with Kolb, and regardless of how good they "think" he is, its still a pretty big gamble.

Powderguy · 04-01-10, 10:07 AM

Philly makes it to the NFC Championship Game like every other year, but obviously that isn't good enough I guess.

EaglesPhan36 · 04-01-10, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by gryfyn1

I understand the logic somewhat about dealing McNabb, but he is one of the better QBs in the league and you are really just taking a risk by going full time with Kolb, and regardless of how good they "think" he is, its still a pretty big gamble.

They have to move forward at some point though. A lot of people have said it, but it's Favre-Rodgers all over again. Do you want to hang onto your aging vet at the cost of potentially alienating and forcing your heir apparent to leave? Anytime you make a change at a position, it's a risk. QB gets the spotlight on every team, so of course that makes this a bigger deal. Thing is the Eagles obviously believe Kolb is their man and with McNabb, this was a playoff team that was still missing pieces (defensively mostly). Without McNabb, they may or may not be in the same boat ... but I think the timing is perfect after their playoff drubbing last season. Philly fans are gonna hate on anyone who doesn't get it done in the clutch, that's their nature. If they go 6-10 with Kolb, the same people screaming for McNabb to leave will be groaning how they should have kept him. if they go 15-1 with Kolb, fans will be saying we should have gotten rid of McNabb sooner. Bottom line is if they kept/keep McNabb, Kolb will/would have walked when his contract was up and then they would have wasted a draft pick on him. I think by releasing Westbrook as well, this is a no brainer move. It's time for a new era in Philly because the youth on this team has a chance to be very special if they all grow together.

andreyluis · 04-01-10, 03:08 PM

wtf eagles

BigdaddyQH · 04-01-10, 05:34 PM

First, the Eagles have made it to the NFC Championship game 1 time in the past 5 years. Next, McNabb is old, and quite injury prone. Next, he is not the greatest person in the clubhouse. He is pompous, arrogant, and thinks that he is the greatest thing on two legs. He is also on the last year of his contract. Finally, he is a choke artist. He has lost it as a QB. His last two games against Dallas last year were inexcusable. He scored fewer pints in 3 games against Dallas than Minnesota did in one. Now is the time to get rid of him, while they can still get something for him. I completely agree with Eaglesphan here.

Durden · 04-01-10, 05:46 PM

yes

Rig · 04-01-10, 09:47 PM

Nabb is good but so is kolb and vick is in between
so it makes sens. To move someone

gryfyn1 · 04-01-10, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

They have to move forward at some point though.

I definitely understand the logic behind it and the eagles are one of the teams that have made a living by moving on too soon as opposed to late with players. And getting something for him is really just a bonus.

I just think people are being too quick to anoint Kolb a star, and too quick to write off McNabb as the problem with the Eagles.

poochiecollins · 04-01-10, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by GiveMeaBJ

What would make them want to trade McNabb?

Could get good trade value? It's not the NBA where bullshit rules stop you from getting equal value in trades for great players.

Jonah · 04-02-10, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by poochiecollins

Could get good trade value? It's not the NBA where bullshit rules stop you from getting equal value in trades for great players.

What rules are those? Not being sarcastic either.

JohnLockesLegs · 04-02-10, 01:20 PM

And now getting rid of the only player on D besides Trent Cole that could tackle. I see the birds as a big fade so far this offseason

jackny · 04-02-10, 02:55 PM

Looks like there won't be much difference with or withour McNabb.

GunShard · 04-02-10, 07:51 PM

McNabb is just too expensive, it's the money is why they are trading him.

jsmithj88 · 04-03-10, 03:28 AM

the main reason they have to trade him now is because its the last year of his contract.
ur not gonna resign him for big $$$ when u have his replacement right there, whos been training for years already
as good as mcnabb is, ur not gonna drop another 100 million on him
u have to trade him now, or ur gonna have to francise him next year just to trade him
if that happens, ur not gonna get the same value as u would rite now

Goat Milk · 04-03-10, 06:05 AM

With Kolb, the eagles cannot compete for a championship for another 2-3 years.

slacker00 · 04-03-10, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

With Kolb, the eagles cannot compete for a championship for another 2-3 years.

The Jets made the AFC championship with Sanchez last year.

The Ravens made the AFC championship with Flacco the year before.

The Bears made the Super Bowl with Grossman, etc, etc, etc.

I wouldn't worry too much about QB experience ruining championship possibilities.

GiveMeaBJ · 04-03-10, 04:13 PM

A lot of guys are saying Kolb is going to be good. How can you think that though? We still haven't seen him play at the NFL level enough. Sure, he played two games and did solid in both but he still threw three picks in the Saints game and then tore up a bad KC team. So really how can we know what this kid is made of? McNabb makes that team in my opinion and without him I think it may be rough on the Eagles. McNabb made all of his receivers better then they were. Guys like Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, James Thrash, etc he made all these guys better then they were. I just don't know if with Kevin Kolb as your starter you can look at DeSean Jackson and the rest of the guys with the same confidence.

slacker00 · 04-03-10, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by GiveMeaBJ

A lot of guys are saying Kolb is going to be good. How can you think that though? We still haven't seen him play at the NFL level enough. Sure, he played two games and did solid in both but he still threw three picks in the Saints game and then tore up a bad KC team. So really how can we know what this kid is made of? McNabb makes that team in my opinion and without him I think it may be rough on the Eagles. McNabb made all of his receivers better then they were. Guys like Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, James Thrash, etc he made all these guys better then they were. I just don't know if with Kevin Kolb as your starter you can look at DeSean Jackson and the rest of the guys with the same confidence.

I agree, but sometimes a team just has to move on. The 49ers did it with Joe Montana, the Packers did it with Brett Favre. Both of these guys went on to have good production away from their original team, but Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers did just fine as well. It really comes down to the Philly management to make that choice of whether Kolb can be a Rodgers/Young prototype or not.

jmanis25 · 04-03-10, 06:25 PM

geeeze

bluefish · 04-03-10, 09:27 PM

they won't resign him next year. That is why.