A change of the overtime rule

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  • NY Playa
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-07-10
    • 774

    #71
    "In order for that second team to win they have to score 6 if they fail to score 6 the first team wins . Inthe case of the first team scoring 6 first the second team must score 6 plus a 2 point conversion."

    Like it, I think first team to 6 pt as well. thats been proposed by Dan Patrick for about 10 years now.
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    • Phillth
      SBR MVP
      • 04-09-09
      • 1785

      #72
      i change to the college rules will alter result in higher totals for game. i like it
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      • poochiecollins
        SBR MVP
        • 01-27-09
        • 1782

        #73
        Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
        First, it would take forever for 5 teams each to alternate posessions from the two yard line. Just running on and off the field would take an eternity. This is not the NHL or Soccer, where you have a shoot out. Next. What do you do about Vegas. Do you count the extra points that may be scored? How does this affect the line? No matter what the NFL says, gaming control a lot of what they do. No wagering on football, no NFL. So how does this affect the gamblers?
        I'm not talking about t.v. timeouts between every possession, and these are professional athletes, not nursing home residents. Maybe a team could stay on the field for all five of the possessions at a time if it takes a while in practice. The scoring could be one point for the OT winner, or something similar. I don't see how this is a problem as far as gambling.
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        • FishFace5
          SBR MVP
          • 10-15-09
          • 1768

          #74
          What does alternating possessions from the 2 going to proove. Who has the best goal line team. Terrible idea imo.
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          • Sidetracked
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-21-09
            • 751

            #75
            ot isnt changing
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            • Waiting4Godot
              SBR High Roller
              • 10-30-09
              • 226

              #76
              I think the NFL should take a page from the NHL/Soccer and have "shootout", but with field goals. Each team picks five players: 2 offensive players (one must be a linemen), 2 defensive players (one must be a linemen), and 1 special team player (not a kicker).

              Have them from like the 20 yard line with no rush. Imagine how much fun this would be to watch!
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              • poochiecollins
                SBR MVP
                • 01-27-09
                • 1782

                #77
                Originally posted by FishFace5
                What does alternating possessions from the 2 going to proove. Who has the best goal line team. Terrible idea imo.
                Because goal line play is unexciting? What's the current format prove? How lucky you can be? I'm guessing you don't like OTs based on penalty kicks and shootouts.
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                • poochiecollins
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-27-09
                  • 1782

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Waiting4Godot
                  I think the NFL should take a page from the NHL/Soccer and have "shootout", but with field goals. Each team picks five players: 2 offensive players (one must be a linemen), 2 defensive players (one must be a linemen), and 1 special team player (not a kicker). Have them from like the 20 yard line with no rush. Imagine how much fun this would be to watch!
                  I don't know if I'd go that few players on at a time, but interesting idea.
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                  • blanc0
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 03-29-09
                    • 256

                    #79
                    sudden death OT's r only good for sports in which both teams have equal attacking opportunities at all time. like soccer,hockey or ping-pong.(whatever u catch my drift )

                    i think i could be able to kill a person if i would make it to the playoffs & in the end it would depend on a coinflip & some iffy ref-calls.. (not rly considering the many video replays though @ nfl though)

                    imo they should set a timelimit, like 2x 5 mins in each direction of the field. after that if its still a draw, then go to field goal kicking shootout
                    2 cents
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                    • poochiecollins
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-27-09
                      • 1782

                      #80
                      Originally posted by slacker00
                      I agree. Maybe we can negotiate somewhere in the middle. 7 1/2 minutes?
                      Sorry, missed this. Ehhh, if I had to pick a clock-based OT for the NFL, it'd be 5 minutes for the reason I mentioned, but there are other alternatives I didn't mention. The kick-off line could be further up and/or the kicking team can be allowed to punt. Also, the receiving team only get three downs starting and every new set for the first possession. Sudden death would be preserved, stats inflation is less than in a timed period, and NFL OTs with offense-heavy teams aren't broken. Comments?
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                      • TheJer
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-25-08
                        • 308

                        #81
                        I agree it should be changed but at the same time those two teams in the playoffs got there for a reason if a playoff team D cant stop the opposing O just once thats their fault but I do agree that in the playoffs I feel cheated out of a good game when the coin flip seemingly decides everything.
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                        • BigdaddyQH
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-13-09
                          • 19530

                          #82
                          Well, it decided everything in 9 out of 16 games last season. The problem is that if the receiving team gets the ball on the 30, all they have to do is gain 40 yards and they are in field goal range. So here is a radical sugestion. Why not eliminate the field goal and force the team to get into the endzone. That way, they have to travel 70 yards, and if your defense can not stop a team from marching 70 yards, it deserves to lose.
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                          • poochiecollins
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-27-09
                            • 1782

                            #83
                            Originally posted by TheJer
                            I agree it should be changed but at the same time those two teams in the playoffs got there for a reason if a playoff team D cant stop the opposing O just once thats their fault but I do agree that in the playoffs I feel cheated out of a good game when the coin flip seemingly decides everything.
                            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                            Well, it decided everything in 9 out of 16 games last season. The problem is that if the receiving team gets the ball on the 30, all they have to do is gain 40 yards and they are in field goal range. So here is a radical sugestion. Why not eliminate the field goal and force the team to get into the endzone. That way, they have to travel 70 yards, and if your defense can not stop a team from marching 70 yards, it deserves to lose.
                            So, what if the other team was equally bad at stopping the other team from scoring? Bad argument, sorry. We're discussing an OT method that's both fair and interesting. The "team A's defense should stop team B's offense or it deserves to lose" argument addresses neither. Also, requiring a touchdown will make OT take too long and further inflate stats.
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                            • 5050
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 10-23-09
                              • 108

                              #84
                              NFL overtime is better than college, as that doesn't prove much starting in FG range. I say stick to suddendeath as I see way to many times a team playing for overtime and not the win, and so be it is that team loses.
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                              • THEGREAT30
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-04-08
                                • 8970

                                #85
                                I think this may be the only major sport with such a rule. Hockey has shootout, NBA 5 min OT, baseball, both teams get to go to the plate, only major U.S. sport with such a rule
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                                • BigdaddyQH
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-09
                                  • 19530

                                  #86
                                  Well, the fact of the mater is that the NFL is NOT going to change the rule, according to the Commish, so that is really the end of the discussion. If the Commish does not want a rule change, there will not be a rule change.
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                                  • Cookie Monster
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-05-08
                                    • 2251

                                    #87
                                    In college football the coin toss also has a large effect, maybe higher than in NFL. Being the last offense, you know the need to score. You can settle for 3 in you have a 4th down, or play it, depending on the score. Also, you can try to get the 2 pt conversion if the situation is right (offenses steamrolling). The team with the first offense must play conservatively, risking a 4th down is suicidal.
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                                    • tatommack
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-10-08
                                      • 4171

                                      #88
                                      I wish they would change it not really fair to end the game in a coin flip
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                                      • poochiecollins
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-27-09
                                        • 1782

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                        Well, the fact of the mater is that the NFL is NOT going to change the rule, according to the Commish, so that is really the end of the discussion. If the Commish does not want a rule change, there will not be a rule change.
                                        If enough people bitched about it, it'd change, at least eventually.
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                                        • Vesuvius
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-19-08
                                          • 3886

                                          #90
                                          They should just tie.
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                                          • DOMINATER
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 3698

                                            #91
                                            the commish sort of a strange guy don't you think ,rather odd personality
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                                            • gcarp707
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-09-10
                                              • 110

                                              #92
                                              I personally like the ncaa format and think thats what they need to go with. The current one is just lame.
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                                              • DOMINATER
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 3698

                                                #93
                                                versuvius, I HAVE A FRIEND WITH A RESTURANT WITH THAT NAME
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                                                • chaka
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 12-29-09
                                                  • 437

                                                  #94
                                                  i think you all will be surprised at the reality of actual OT games won on the first drive by receiving team(coin toss winner)
                                                  creating new thread with data for the past season
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