A change of the overtime rule

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  • texashighroller
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-24-09
    • 205

    #36
    Go to college ot rules
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    • THATRUTH
      SBR Rookie
      • 01-20-10
      • 20

      #37
      Current overtime rules need to be changed
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      • slacker00
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-06-05
        • 12262

        #38
        Add a five minute OT period. Who's with me?
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        • RageWizard
          SBR MVP
          • 09-01-06
          • 3008

          #39
          leave the rules as they are. Both teams have equal chances, and if they feel that they don't, they should have thought of that in regulation.

          Could you imagine if Green Bay and Arizona had to play a college ruled system. The game wouls still be goin on today.

          and don't forget the gamblers with the under. A college system or this play an entire quarter would be unfair to those people.

          The overtime rules are what makes the NFL the best. Nobodies got it except hockey, and some othe the other sports have taken the game completely away from the original intent. Yeah, look a sucker, oh I mean soccer. They play kick ball in the world cup for an hour and a half then have a couple of 15 minute periods before they go to a penalty kick phase. Lame, Lame, Lame. They should play until someone scores.

          Football wouldn't be the same without the suddeness of the end. That's the feeling I get from the college game where they take kicking out almost completely, and turn it into a redzone competition.
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          • kroyrunner89
            SBR MVP
            • 10-25-08
            • 1191

            #40
            I personally have no problem with the overtime rules. They showed this stat during the game, but before the Vikings/Saints game, teams this season who started overtime with the ball were 8-7. That's pretty even, even if it's 9-7 now.
            2011 NFL: 4-0 ATS
            2010 NFL: 21-31 ATS (Stopped after Week 12)
            2009 NFL: 55-30-1 ATS
            2008 NFL: 57-36-2 ATS

            Overall: 137-97-3 ATS
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            • Serbone
              SBR MVP
              • 09-21-09
              • 1300

              #41
              Originally posted by DOMINATER
              It happened in a play off game, and this has to change ,a team worked all year left their blood sweat and tears and the field every week to have this happen, the current rule about overtime has to change. MY feelings are if the first team with the ball gets a field goal the opponent should get the ball back. In order for that second team to win they have to score 6 if they fail to score 6 the first team wins . Inthe case of the first team scoring 6 first the second team must score 6 plus a 2 point conversion. a quarter is still 15 minutes long .on the event of scoring from these examples the game is over even with time on the clock . one shot thats it . any other ideas on how to finally solve this ruling at the end of a game.
              NFL Overtime:
              When the game ends, the team with the ball gets it where it was, same down, same yards to go.
              Think about it.
              SerOne has spoken.

              (People who know me say: "save time: ask SerbOne")
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              • IrishTim
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-23-09
                • 983

                #42
                Start at the 15 yard-line. The theoretical point on the field where both teams have an equal chance of scoring.
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                • MoneyM1ke
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-14-09
                  • 668

                  #43
                  Should be first team to score a TD, or first team to score 6 pts (2 FGS)sounds good to me.
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                  • daneblazer
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-14-08
                    • 27861

                    #44
                    Play 8 minute overtime quarters. If it's tied after 8 minutes play another one
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                    • slacker00
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-06-05
                      • 12262

                      #45
                      Originally posted by daneblazer
                      Play 8 minute overtime quarters. If it's tied after 8 minutes play another one
                      Attaboy.

                      It's more entertaining and in the spirit of the game. Take away the coin flip sudden death.
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                      • poochiecollins
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-27-09
                        • 1782

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Busterflywheel
                        NCAA rule would be best..but this isnt the first CHampionship game to have this happen and why is there so much of a urgency to change this year...after vikings loss?
                        I don't like the NCAA way. I like the idea of alternating possessions from the 2-yard line, similar to the NHL. Could go up to a number, like five possession each then single rounds, or start with single rounds from the beginning. Each score would be one or two points. These stats would be counted separately, and games end faster. My two cents.
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                        • scarp
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-12-10
                          • 697

                          #47
                          I def agree, the overtime rule now basically favors the team that gets the ball first in overtime, not the better team that deserves to win.
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                          • IrishTim
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 07-23-09
                            • 983

                            #48
                            The NCAA method inflates the stats too much.
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                            • DOMINATER
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 3698

                              #49
                              5 minute overtime much to little time
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #50
                                Again, all the rule needs is one little tweak: Go to the CFL rule. If the team that get the ball first in OT scores, the game continues normally so that each team gets one possession. THEN, if after each team has had one possession the game is still tied, go to sudden death. Doesn't seem that hard to me.
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                                • Busterflywheel
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-13-09
                                  • 3991

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                  Again, all the rule needs is one little tweak: Go to the CFL rule. If the team that get the ball first in OT scores, the game continues normally so that each team gets one possession. THEN, if after each team has had one possession the game is still tied, go to sudden death. Doesn't seem that hard to me.
                                  Again I agree with LT here..Lets change it to college style...but the question is why only now should we?
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                                  • dgxshiny
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 11-09-09
                                    • 4

                                    #52
                                    Why not just keep OT as it currently is, first one to score wins, but take down the FG poles and make the winning team score a TD
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Busterflywheel
                                      Again I agree with LT here..Lets change it to college style...but the question is why only now should we?
                                      It's not the college rule. CFL = Canadian Football League
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                                      • slacker00
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-06-05
                                        • 12262

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by dgxshiny
                                        Why not just keep OT as it currently is, first one to score wins, but take down the FG poles and make the winning team score a TD
                                        This is a new one. I like it!

                                        It makes sense from a competitive standpoint, because too often a team will get into FG range and just sit on the ball to set up a chip shot FG. Make them earn it! Especially if the other team doesn't get a chance to match them, we need a higher standard for determining a winner besides a chip shot FG.

                                        As far as the logistics of taking down the field goals, I'd think that could be done fairly quickly in modern times. No longer than a commercial break. That might add a bit of flair and entertainment to punctuate the "sudden death" period. Without the goal posts, maybe it takes on a feel of a cage match or something. You gotta punch the guy in the mouth and run him over. The FG kicker isn't going to bail you out if you can't run over me! haha! Plus we'll get a lot of excitement of going for it on 4th down as a team gets into enemy territory.
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                                        • Cappy
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-26-08
                                          • 784

                                          #55
                                          I was thinking the same thing. Or maybe not college ot rules, but something else, that doesn't rely so much on the coin toss
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                                          • BigdaddyQH
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-13-09
                                            • 19530

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            Again, all the rule needs is one little tweak: Go to the CFL rule. If the team that get the ball first in OT scores, the game continues normally so that each team gets one possession. THEN, if after each team has had one possession the game is still tied, go to sudden death. Doesn't seem that hard to me.
                                            I can live with that change. Since the 1st team toget the ball in overtime failed to score in 7 out of 16 attempts, that eliminates 7 problems to begin with, so we are actually only talking about extending 9 games, not 16. That is about one game every two weeks. I think everyone can live with that.
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                                            • poochiecollins
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-27-09
                                              • 1782

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                              Again, all the rule needs is one little tweak: Go to the CFL rule. If the team that get the ball first in OT scores, the game continues normally so that each team gets one possession. THEN, if after each team has had one possession the game is still tied, go to sudden death. Doesn't seem that hard to me.
                                              Longer games, stats inflation, more ties. Better than the current system, but my solution doesn't have any of those problems.
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                                              • FishFace5
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-15-09
                                                • 1768

                                                #58
                                                College Overtime is never gonna happen. And you shouldn't want it to. We're goin to determine the winner based on red zone offense?? why is this any better than sudden death.
                                                Play a whole quarter. Or play 10 minutes. Or even leave it how it is.
                                                I hate the college idea though.
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                                                • poochiecollins
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-27-09
                                                  • 1782

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by DOMINATER
                                                  5 minute overtime much to little time
                                                  Not targeted at me, but a tied game is supposed to imply two evenly matched teams where one play could've been the difference. Why not end it in a short, dramatic fashion? What is it people like about long-ass overtimes?
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                                                  • whatsgood5
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 10-13-09
                                                    • 15359

                                                    #60
                                                    I'd like it if they switched to the NCAA rules, but I don't see that happening anytime soon unfortunately
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                                                    • slacker00
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-05
                                                      • 12262

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                                      Not targeted at me, but a tied game is supposed to imply two evenly matched teams where one play could've been the difference. Why not end it in a short, dramatic fashion? What is it people like about long-ass overtimes?
                                                      I agree. Maybe we can negotiate somewhere in the middle. 7 1/2 minutes?
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                                                      • Gooseamoose
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-21-09
                                                        • 19

                                                        #62
                                                        I watched an interview with Goodell about a year ago discussing the O/T issue. He said it's not going to change under his watch, believing that sudden death is best . My assumption from that interview was they do it for television reasons . I'm with everyone else, I think it sucks !
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                                                        • warriorfan707
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-29-08
                                                          • 13698

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by wookieehumper
                                                          the sudden death OT is a terrible system... it may be okay in the regular season, but in the playoffs with so much in the line you need a system that is more fair for both teams. It's stupid that an entire season can be lost because of a coin flip, a huge return, and some questionable penalties.

                                                          As flawed as the college football OT system is, it is a million times better than the sudden death OT that the nfl has.
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                                                          • slacker00
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-06-05
                                                            • 12262

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Gooseamoose
                                                            I watched an interview with Goodell about a year ago discussing the O/T issue. He said it's not going to change under his watch, believing that sudden death is best . My assumption from that interview was they do it for television reasons . I'm with everyone else, I think it sucks !
                                                            Turn the screws, let's lobby the NFL every chance we get.

                                                            Hammer the message boards, call the talk radio shows, stay vigilant.

                                                            Lets change this thing. This is ridiculous.
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                                                            • CaptainPrice
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-29-09
                                                              • 1064

                                                              #65
                                                              I think its ok how it is
                                                              perhaps in playoffs it should just be another 15 minutes or so
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                                                              • tbonmusikman
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-25-09
                                                                • 706

                                                                #66
                                                                Who cares about stat inflation? I want to see all teams get a fair chance to win and giving both teams the ability to have an offensive possession does that. Also, 5 minute quarters would only make the game longer, as the first team to get the ball still has a great chance of winning...it's not hard to run out 5 minutes.

                                                                Comparing the NFL with the NHL or Soccer is just ridiculous. Having a sudden death overtime in either of those two sports would make sense. You score at a miniscule percent of the time you have possession compared to football, and therefore it's not even close to being first to get possession wins, but better team overall wins.

                                                                I wouldn't mind having to get a touchdown to win (I don't think the person who suggested taking down the field goal posts was actually serious, you could just disregard them) as that way you'd have to go the entire length of the field, and then both offenses and defenses (regular and red zone) come into play. Doesn't inflate stats (though I don't care about that at all) and you don't have the problem of getting the ball with a good return and only having to go 30 yards to win.

                                                                Even still...I LOVE the college OT rules
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                                                                • tmorton
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-15-09
                                                                  • 560

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I like the overtime the way it is.
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                                                                  • BigdaddyQH
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-13-09
                                                                    • 19530

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by poochiecollins
                                                                    I don't like the NCAA way. I like the idea of alternating possessions from the 2-yard line, similar to the NHL. Could go up to a number, like five possession each then single rounds, or start with single rounds from the beginning. Each score would be one or two points. These stats would be counted separately, and games end faster. My two cents.
                                                                    First, it would take forever for 5 teams each to alternate posessions from the two yard line. Just running on and off the field would take an eternity. This is not the NHL or Soccer, where you have a shoot out. Next. What do you do about Vegas. Do you count the extra points that may be scored? How does this affect the line? No matter what the NFL says, gaming control a lot of what they do. No wagering on football, no NFL. So how does this affect the gamblers?
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                                                                    • THEGREAT30
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-04-08
                                                                      • 8970

                                                                      #69
                                                                      maybe they just should have called that illegal hit on Favre and we would not be having this discussion, or the facemask on Rodgers. I agree one play should not decide it when the refs may have too much to do with the play
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                                                                      • RageWizard
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-01-06
                                                                        • 3008

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by dgxshiny
                                                                        Why not just keep OT as it currently is, first one to score wins, but take down the FG poles and make the winning team score a TD

                                                                        I still like the rules the way they are, but if they have to change, I'm mostly in favor of this tweak with a couple of other tweaks to go with it.

                                                                        1. Forget about taking down the goal post, for one thing, while goal post are unsecure, they pose a hazard to fans in the end zone. I can see insurance premiums going up for no good cause.
                                                                        2. A team can kick a field goal when they have the ball first, but they must kick off, and from that point on, it is sudden death. This means that if the second team scores a TD, the game is over, or if they can't score, the game is over, or if they get a field goal, they also kick off, and the next score wins.
                                                                        3. If any team scores a safety, the game is over.
                                                                        4. First team to score a TD, wins.
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