How does New Orleans -7 over Arizona make sense?

[lakerboy]

The Saints have not given up fewer than 20 points in a game since November.

And if you want to take it further------they have given up 20 or more points in 10 of their last 12 games.

The Cards shredded the NFC's #2 scoring defense.

Anyone really expecting the Saints to stop the Cards?

Only if you believe that the packers had a good defense. I believe favre(2) and big ben ripped them apart as well. Also what makes you think that the saints wont rip the cards defense apart. Anyways good luck my friend. I cant argue about this anymore- the whole board is on Zona- i dont need anymore info.

[poochiecollins]

Saints the last two months has been very unhealthy. They were without there starting corners, Shockey, Bush, WR Lance Moore, also 2 starting linebackers. Everyone is healthy now and when they are fully healthy they are the best team in the NFL!

This could be an explanation if they all got hurt around the same time. Was it? The Saints have been average to somewhat above average for a month and a half.

[PAULYPOKER]

Agreed Lakerboy,only a sucker plays Arizona in this spot.Actually,I believe you're the one who made an assinine statement about the game being fixed on your post Pauly.

Again I bring proof of your dumbness

Quote:
Originally Posted by lakerboy
Bro i respect you alot because you post good insight but the cards are a public play on all sights that show public %- the line will hold stiff all week and the saints will pump them

[ZBOIZ]

Deal Martin!

[MartinBlank]

Deal Martin!

Z, do you have 300 points?

Be honest!!!

[MartinBlank]

Z....I am only betting you if you put up the 300 points.....

I am not getting burned. No offense man, but I have seen you asking for loans again lately.

[6_Feet_Under]

Okay Pauly,your thread doesn't say if the saints cover tomorrow that the game was fixed?Or did I read that wrong amidst your 5 paragraphs of nonsense?Covering your ass already with an excuse of a stupid play.You should wear a sign.Poochie,I know what they did "last" year.That has a bearing on what happens tomorrow?You guys are honestly backing a team that gave up 45 points at home last week?Haha.....................and I'm stupid???????????This is great.The more you guys talk,the more confident I feel.We'll see tomorrow,and good luck to you guys.

[birdman779]

Saints haven't had a good offensive showing in a month, they may come out rusty. Arizona First Half could be good here, but the play I REALLY like is the Under for the game.

luv the under and the saits tom

[Shafted69]

Z, do you have 300 points?

Be honest!!!

I'll bet you 73 points, since this will save me some juice.









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[ZBOIZ]

Hell no I don't have it

[PAULYPOKER]

Again I bring proof of your dumbness Quote: Originally Posted by lakerboy Bro i respect you alot because you post good insight but the cards are a public play on all sights that show public %- the line will hold stiff all week and the saints will pump them

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Bad news for the suckers falling into the trap of public hype: My latest info coming from a reliable source is 58% Cards 42% Aints I mean Saints and we all know when it gets to 55% its game on You see boys books want no part of the action in this one wake up!!!

[Dark Horse]

guys the saints are going to beat arizona so bad on saturday i feel sorry for anyone betting on the cards

Could be.

Then again, the Cards are 5-0 ATS in the playoffs in the past two seasons. They were dogs in every game and went 4-1 SU.

[madmaxx]

Wasn't Zona like +12 @ carolina last year in a similar spot?

[warriorfan707]

it wont make any cents

it doesnt make any sense either

[Dark Horse]

Wasn't Zona like +12 @ carolina last year in a similar spot?

Arizona has been consistently underestimated. What has gone largely unnoticed is that they focus on winning the turnover battle in the playoffs, especially early in the games. They now hold a 16-6 turnover edge in their playoff games (5-0 ATS).

The team has pretty much flown under the radar, but that can't last forever. Sooner or later people are going to take notice and the line will adjust. But, once again, that didn't happen here. The line is off, just as it was in other Zona playoff games (As a local, I've said so consistently here, dating back to last season).

Fortunately, for Zona backers, they have a tendency to give up large leads. This gives the naysayers the idea that they were right in fading the Cards, but they fail to see how battle-tested the team is. Much more battle-tested than the Saints... Remember how quickly they erased a large deficit in the Superbowl to take a 23-20 lead. These Cards have a lot of fight. And playoff experience on their side.

If they win the turnover battle, the Cards win. The name is all wrong though. 'Killer Bees' would be better. They've been swarming the opposing QB with insane aggression, and they will come out like that again.

[patblue03]

arizona is the pick here

[texashighroller]

I dont get the cards will be tired argument. These are pro athletes, and as far as i know your body takes around 3 days to recoup. Could they be tired from almost a week ago?

[Pecos Bill]

i like N.O. and the under

[Wheell]

6.5 teaser. NO down to ML and total up to 63.5 (get the 9 TD's with the hook).

Bullshit, you are much too smart to play a negative EV teaser.

[warriorfan707]

You all ready for the truth?

Here it is.

Noone has any damned clue who will cover. Whoever turns the ball over a lot loses. Fumbles, interceptions, penalties, mistakes.

And theres no way to anticipate those.

Thats the truth. End of story.

Txs for comin out.

[tbonmusikman]

I don't understand how the Saints have been "average" for the past month and a half, however the same argument isn't made with the Colts. Now, I'm not saying the Colts are average at all, I'm here to offer that maybe the Saints just didn't care about lighting things up when it didn't matter. Now it does.

That being said however, I wouldn't touch the spread in this game-no one really knows how these two teams are going to match up when they're both running on all cylinders. I would think the over's a definite possibility, but there are so many better spots than anything in this game.

[Nickelicious]

I agree with tbon, this is the one game of the four this weekend that I am laying off the ATS action. I like the under, though.

[Fed_42420]

maybe cuz arizona gave up 45 POINTS last week!!!!!!!

[tonyhomo]

agree it doesnt make a lot of sense,
cards will win by 2 td's

[SBR_John]

Went back and forth all week. Had the cards last week as a home dog. But switching horses and going with the well rested, home fed and probably better prepared Saints here. Not sure what that Green Bay game took out of them but I think it is not insignificant. Saints -7 for me. Good luck all!

[tonyhomo]

Wasn't Zona like +12 @ carolina last year in a similar spot?

yes and we all know what happened back then.

[MadRussian]

Everyone is betting Arizona about 65%. And yet the line hasn't moved....that should tell you something.

[Nomocino]

Dont under estimate being Home in a Dome (with all that noise) I like all 4 home teams this weekend and most of all N O that place will be rocking the Cards will have alot of false starts and Warner will not be able to have the abilty to audible as easily as he did last week.also like the under

Saints 34
Cards 20

[OverUnder]

i like the saints here

[LTCOL27]

yes and we all know what happened back then.

I am a Panthers fan, and that was the most painful Panthers game I have ever watched. We were 12-4 last season, undefeated at home, and had already won against Arizona during the regular season. Then, the Cardinals pressure brought Jake Interception Delhomme out in full force. Every time he tried to throw to Steve Smith, it was like there were 4 Cardinals covering him, and it was an automatic interception. He never shook off that game this season, which resulted in this year's terrible 0-3 start, and the Panthers scraping their way to an 8-8 season.

The Panthers struggled a little down the stretch last year losing to the Giants for the NFC #1 seed. The Saints have done the same this year, losing to the Cowboys, and the Bucs (and my Panthers, but that doesn't count since it was week 17 with everybody resting.) Last year, Arizona survived a battle against Atlanta in their first playoff game, and this year they survived the OT shoot out against GB last week of course. The situations are nearly identical, and now they go on the road against the NFC South division winner again.

For the last couple of years, Arizona seems to be in a pattern of playing mediocre, with a few flashes of dominance during the regular season, but just doing enough to win their weak division. Then, they flip a switch in the playoffs, and use this no respect, chip on their shoulder thing to motivate themselves.

I think that history will repeat itself, and like last year, in this similar situation, the Cardinals and the points is the play. The difference though is that this New Orleans team is much better than my Panthers were last year (especially at QB obviously) so I think that in the end the Saints will find a way to win, but the Cardinals cover.

Good luck.

[dubv1987]

Z, how about a 300 point bet?

Give me the Cards plus the 7 for 300 points?

Deal?

I only have 103 points but I'll give you AZ +7 for 103 points.

Let me know.

[Shafted69]

I'd like to wager 74 points if anyone wants AZ +7. I'll take NO -7. It will save us the juice points.











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[big0mar]

Quick- how many times has Arizonas LT played in an environment like he will today?

Az will have issues in pass protection. If you can't protect your passer againt a Greg Williams defense, you are in trouble.

[frostno98]

Saints win by two touchdowns

[poochiecollins]

Poochie,I know what they did "last" year.That has a bearing on what happens tomorrow?

You said, "coming off the game last week where they totally emptied their tanks do you really think they're gonna be able to crank it up again this week..............having to travel,on a short week against a team that's superior to them?" They did exactly this last year, except I don't know about the short week. Do you have evidence this matters?

You guys are honestly backing a team that gave up 45 points at home last week?

... and they scored 51.