Green Bay-Arizona II

[BigdaddyQH]

Last week, Green Bay just pounded Arizona into submission. Does that mean anything at all? Let's examine the records of these two teams:

Green Bay: 11-5 S/U, 11-4-1 ATS. Three of the 5 losses were to playoff teams (Division winner Minnesota twice, and Division Winner Cincinnati). The Pack is 7-1 in their final 8 games, after starting the season 4-4. That streak includes wins against Dallas and Baltimore, and the above mentioned Cardnals. In their past 7 games, the Packer offense is averaging over 32 points per game,while the defense is allowing just under 17. The Pack is 7-0-1 ATS in their past 8 games.

Arizona: 10-6 S/U, 8-8 ATS. This team is 5-3 in their last 8 games. Their losses include two to San Francisco, Carolina and Tennessee, as well as Green Bay and Indy. Minnesota is the only playoff team that Arizona defeated. Their offense has run hot and cold of latge, averaging nearly 31 points in their last 3 wins, but only 11 in their last 3 losses. Their defense has been a lot more consistant, giving up 20 or less points 10 times this season.

This is a tough game to call. Green Bay is Red Hot. Arizona totally laid down in their last meeting. All the talk is about Arizona's offense, but their defense has been suprisingly strong all year. Which Arizona team shows up on Sunday?

[PAULYPOKER]

big daddy Arizona layed down as soon as they got behind so they could study the packers without showing them their own game plan knowing they would play this week however greenbay is very strong coming into the playoffs but the game will be nothing like last week right now I would say Arizona has the advantage slightly I see it as a shootout so grab your cause this ones gonna be a dandy

[Dexter]

big daddy Arizona layed down as soon as they got behind so they could study the packers without showing them their own game plan knowing they would play this week however greenbay is very strong coming into the playoffs but the game will be nothing like last week right now I would say Arizona has the advantage slightly I see it as a shootout so grab your cause this ones gonna be a dandy

i wont play overs in the playoffs anymore - games that look like shootouts on paper many times turn into defensive battles - both of these defenses are capable of playing strong.

[hii Im J NaSTy]

take green bay to the bank lay the stacks on them

[brandon m]

I think Kurt Warner shows up in this one. Arizonas trend all year has been to win 1 or 2 games and then drop one with a bad offensive performance. So I like Arizona, haven't seen the spread yet but it should be a close one maybe Greenbay +2 or 3.

[Jshap1515]

Kurt Warner and the Cards are just as good a team without Boldin (statistically, they're better w/o him) so that shouldn't be a problem if he plays or not.

Expect Cards to win by a touchdown.

[eleven2ten]

look for gb to win this one and nfc also, play gb on ml straight up to SB

[Mr Handicapable]

I took a shot w/GB ML +120

Rodgers is finally getting some protection and GB is statistically better on defense too! Both Arizona's RBs have fumble-itis and Warner has turned it over almost twice as much as Rodgers (20 to 11). Rodgers has had a helluva year with only 7 picks and 4 fumbles lost when you consider how he got the living $hit beat out of him for 2/3 of the season and plays home games in Siberia weather-wise!

[your pixel army]

The only way I see Arizona winning this game is if they completely confound the Packers secondary and score over 33. I don't see it happening. Now, you should never discount Jackyl and Hyde which, this year, has been Arizona. They can beat anyone, any weekend, anywhere.

If this game comes down to turnovers, which it very well may... who has the advantage?

I'm all over the Packers.

[LT Profits]

Last week means nothing as the Cardinals didn't even try.

That said, I still like Packers, not only to win this game but also to go to Super Bowl.

[Dark Horse]

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[BigdaddyQH]

I am leaning Green Bay, but it does not matter. The winner of this game does not get past New Orleans or Minnesota. Green Bay does not have to defense to beat New Orleans or Minnesota.

[brock]

Look what Arizona did to Minnesota.

[your pixel army]

Look what Arizona did to Minnesota.

Look what Green Bay did to Dallas.
Look what Dallas did to New Orleans.
Look what Minnesota did to Green Bay.

I don't think any of that is going to mean much anymore.

[LT Profits]

I am leaning Green Bay, but it does not matter. The winner of this game does not get past New Orleans or Minnesota. Green Bay does not have to defense to beat New Orleans or Minnesota.

I actually think that the Saints and the Vikings could both lose next week the way they struggled down the stretch, and that the Packers could conceivably become the favorites to win the NFC once next week is over.

[BarkingToad]

Arizona had nothing to gain and nothing to lose this past Sunday. Both safeties Adrian Wilson and Antrel Rolle didn't even play while Rodgers-Cromartie got his knee spiked after 3rd play of the game. Rodgers was throwing against a second string secondary the whole game. This looks kind of like Rodgers struck fools gold to me. I blame Leinart's horrible throw for the injury to Boldin. Wiz shares the blame for leaving Boldin in during the 3rd quarter. The Cardinals need to give some serious thought to life after Kurt Warner.

[CHUBNUT]

I think if this was a regular season game most intelligent people would pass. The thing that stands out to me is neither team will have much success running the ball and not only is Arizona mediocre on 3rd downs, both Ds are strong on 3rd downs. Under possibly gives a better run for your money.

[ericthegangster]

green bay packers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jjgold]

If Boldin is not like 80% Zona has no shot

[JNic]

im all over the packers

[tbird509]

I am leaning Green Bay, but it does not matter. The winner of this game does not get past New Orleans or Minnesota. Green Bay does not have to defense to beat New Orleans or Minnesota.

gb has #2 total def(284),#1 rush def(83),#5 pass def(201) and #7 def score(19ppg) so they can hold anybody and their off is almost as good...total off#6(379) #7 off pass(261) #14 off rushing(118) #3 off scoring(29ppg) this young team can hang with anybody period

[BarkingToad]

I see the stats on Green Bay, too. It may be a case of figures lie and liars figure. I think Green Bay's stats may be inflated by playing Chicago twice, Detroit twice, Cleveland, Tampa, St Louis, Seattle, and this past Sunday against Arizona who had no interest in the game.

It's similar to the NY Giants having gaudy stats most of the year due to playing Washington, Tampa, KC, and Oakland early. They racked up some impressive numbers against bad teams and their numbers looked real good for most of the year. What good did it do them? SSLP was probably the 1st to see this when he hammered New Orleans big earlier in the year.

[tbird509]

I see the stats on Green Bay, too. It may be a case of figures lie and liars figure. I think Green Bay's stats may be inflated by playing Chicago twice, Detroit twice, Cleveland, Tampa, St Louis, Seattle, and this past Sunday against Arizona who had no interest in the game.

It's similar to the NY Giants having gaudy stats most of the year due to playing Washington, Tampa, KC, and Oakland early. They racked up some impressive numbers against bad teams and their numbers looked real good for most of the year. What good did it do them? SSLP was probably the 1st to see this when he hammered New Orleans big earlier in the year.

got to admit,you have a very valid point vs bad teams

[6_Feet_Under]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh Arizona plays the Rams,Seattle,and the 9er's twice.........these are good teams?0 good teams in their division not to mention any cupcakes they played,but there's 6 games right there.Arizona=passing team,Green Bay=kick ass secondary.The pack shuts them down and comes away with the outright win here.Silly to bet against the pack right now who are on fire as big daddy mentioned in the open.I feel they have a better more balanced offense and a superior defense so this one's easy.And yeah Toad,cards are screwed when Warner hangs it up.haha.Leinart is no Neil Lomax..........that's for sure.

[PAULYPOKER]

uhhhhhhhhhhh arizona plays the rams,seattle,and the 9er's twice.........these are good teams?0 good teams in their division not to mention any cupcakes they played,but there's 6 games right there.arizona=passing team,green bay=kick ass secondary.the pack shuts them down and comes away with the outright win here.silly to bet against the pack right now who are on fire as big daddy mentioned in the open.i feel they have a better more balanced offense and a superior defense so this one's easy.and yeah toad,cards are screwed when warner hangs it up.haha.leinart is no neil lomax..........that's for sure.

good pont

[6_Feet_Under]

Arizona also played Det.,Chic.,and Houston.But these things are irrelevant since Green Bays strength of schedule ranks 32,and Arizonas ranks 31.Soooooooooooo,it's safe to say neither of these teams played anyone.For those that care about such things.Don't overthink,and ride the hot team which is the pack.

[waco66]

Packers +2.5..did this sunday night...its at +1 at most places now.

[Sunde91]

GB is the call.

This Arizona team will not come alive again for a playoff run like they did last year and GB is clicking too well.

[bluegg]

Look what Arizona did to Minnesota.

That game was fixed by vegas.. just saying

And according to SBR Odds the consensus is going for GB as well, 62% of them!

[MJFtheGenius]

Not sure if Green Bay can win but I think they can cover the number

[balman]

i played GB +2.5 when line came out but only a small bet 1 unit, just dont know which Arz team will show up... just have more faith in GB.. Arz does have the playoff experince if that counts for anything... other picks for weekend i like are jets and cowboys... no clue who wins Pats Ravens.. good luck all

[Bswitz32]

I wouldnt say that this will be easy for GB but they should put away AZ Sat with another convincing win. I know AZ laid down early last wk but GB looks GOOD

BOL

[stevek173]

GB all the way imo

[chrisharvard01]

Arizona had nothing to gain and nothing to lose this past Sunday. Both safeties Adrian Wilson and Antrel Rolle didn't even play while Rodgers-Cromartie got his knee spiked after 3rd play of the game. Rodgers was throwing against a second string secondary the whole game. This looks kind of like Rodgers struck fools gold to me. I blame Leinart's horrible throw for the injury to Boldin. Wiz shares the blame for leaving Boldin in during the 3rd quarter. The Cardinals need to give some serious thought to life after Kurt Warner.

Sharp post.


I don't know who wins this. I lean GB, but I will have no money on this one. I agree with LT for the 2nd time ever that GREEN BAY could take this s_hit to the superbowl but I'm staying away... for now.

[MoneyM1ke]

I'm leaning on the Pack +2.