Football Winners - turning 25,000 into 100,000

[NBK87]

Seeing 3/35.5. What do you think?

[RoagBettor]

Love this thread. My Roag Betting Project vs. The Disciplinarian Project, LOL.

Good luck Josh, impressive comments so far.

[josh hamilton]

Welcome Josh, wish you best luck!
Have a profitable season.
What is you 2 top picks for today?

look up I already posted. Dolphins and the under.

NBK, wager half on the +145 and half on Miami pointspread. Wager a little bit more on the under. Make it so that if either selection wins, you win ..

like for me if Miami wins and the under loses, I win 150$. If the under wins and Miami loses I win 300$. If both selections win I win 4,250$. I am very confident they both win, but with this method you give yourself a better chance at profiting on the night atleast. Gotta think about the longterm bud.

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the nice comments.

[superduperjacob]

NBK, wager half on the +145 and half on Miami pointspread. Wager a little bit more on the under. Make it so that if either selection wins, you win ..

like for me if Miami wins and the under loses, I win 150$. If the under wins and Miami loses I win 300$. If both selections win I win 4,250$. I am very confident they both win, but with this method you give yourself a better chance at profiting on the night atleast. Gotta think about the longterm bud.

You have some really good thoughts on money managment, for sure. Will follow your reasoning with great interest (and also your progress, of course.) BOL!

[josh hamilton]

Thanks brotha. Looking forward to having good convos with you guys.

[josh hamilton]

1-1 +150$

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-18-1 (+11,940$) - 56%

[Kav]

welcome to the board and i will be following your thread, congrats today a profit is a profit w00t!

[josh hamilton]

welcome to the board and i will be following your thread, congrats today a profit is a profit w00t!

Thankyou for the welcome. Exactly. It is like I worked a 9-5 today making 150$. 150$ a day is 55,000$ a year.

I am also tracking my progress in the spreadsheet, as well as on my blog. I started tracking in the spreadsheet as of Monday.

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-18-1 (+11,940$) - 56%
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October 13th, 2009:

2,660$ - Arkansas State ML +115
(I really like this play, Arkansas state is MUCH better than their record shows)

Friday MLB:
1,000$ : LAA Angels/New York under 8.5 +103
500$ : LAA Angels ML +157
500$ : LAA Angels -1.5 +250 (Alternate line

GL

[bettman]

good luck and i will keep close eye on this thread, as im building my bankroll...

[josh hamilton]

thanks bettman. I wish you success then, just stay at it and never chase your losses. Treat each loss the same as each win.

[josh hamilton]

I have gone ahead and placed my NFL wagers for this weekend, while the lines are still on the key numbers. Still looking at college, but have Arkansas State tonight.

NFL Sunday
4,270 - New Orleans -3 -122
4,200 - Baltimore +3 -120
3,885 - Tampa Bay +3.5 -111
2,020 - Kansas City +6.5 -102

Monday
2,750 - Denver +4 -110


GL

[darkenergy]

In three months! 25,000$ is not my entire bankroll but a part of it. If you don't know who I am, my name is Josh Hamilton. Ive been posting at the rx and eog for a couple weeks, and came across this forum today. At eog, people have been very supportive of my quest, at the rx many haven't. People get on your ass when you lose a game, and say nothing when you win. Anyways, if you want to read my story it is in those forums, and on my blog (which im not sure if I can post) so I won't. It is a free blog, so someone let me know if I can post it so people can track my selections easier. Basically my story is I have built a 8,000$ bankroll into 136,000$ in six years. I did this through strict money management (75% of my wagers being 1/2% of bankroll, and 25% of my wagers being 3-5% of my bankroll). I have doubled my bankroll four times, and doubled my unit size 4 times (because of the double of my bankroll). This is not my story, but what I will be doing/posting until january. As i've said before I wager on sports as my only source of income. Meaning, this is more than something I am "trying" .. this is something I must do, to live. I am very confident in my sports investing knowledge and the more I can make in the football season, the less I have to worry about picking constant winners through sporting seasons. I typically wager between 1* and 10*, between 100$ and 1000$ per selection, and try and win all year long. This year, and hopefully more to come i'll be trying to get most of my money out of the football seasons; as they are both in the top three most profitable sports for investing, college basketball being the other. For the remainder of each season and playoffs I will cut my wagers to two to five selections, per sport. My minimum wager will be 1,000$ and my maximum wager will be 3,000$; with a possible wager of 4-5 thousand, once or twice. I will be setting aside 25,000$, as my 'bankroll'. *This is my job, and I put as much work into my job as I do anything else in life. If you watch, we should be up 25,000$ within a month. I advise to follow my selections, but with an amount of money more comfortable to you. I know there will be some bashing, but it will not bother me.* All of my wagers, both NCAAF + NFL, will be posted in this thread, all season. It will also be posted in the NFL forum. Enjoy, this should be a fun journey; Josh Hamilton

First of all, welcome to SBR. I like what you are doing here.
Last year, there's couple people did similar threads like this, and i always enjoyed them. I am very interested to see how to you make it out when you hit a hot streak, and how your bankroll withstand when you hit a cold streak (I hope you not hit cold though, ), as this is a big part in money management and wagering strategy.
You started this project and thread yesterday, why don't you reset your record for this thread?
Regarding to your opening statement (highlight above), don't expect any equal or less in this forum. There are some supportive, but there are even more bashers when you start hit cold streak. Get your emotion ready man.
I think I will enjoy this thread and will view this regularly.
Best of luck JH.

[og4667]

that was a good call last night on Miami, and a profitable night is a profitable night. not bad. Good luck on meeting your goal Josh, I will be following your thread. Make some money!

[dimon]

hey man, good call on MIA...as for the Ark State...did you see their game with Troy...do you think that they are that good...I mean UL Monroe is not a great team, but still?

[johncrud]

Josh, What sportsbook are you using? Aren't you scared they start limiting your account if you profit too much?

[josh hamilton]

thanks everybody.
Dark Energy, the problem is .. I did NOT start this journey yesterday I started two weeks ago, but I started posting my selections yesterday. My plays are tracked and followed at three other forums as well, but as of yesterday I am also tracking my progress in a "spreadsheet" on this website, so you can see my record since posting here on there as well.

Dimon .. just watch. Arkansas State has had a very difficult schedule, and to be honest, IMO this is their easiest game of their schedule. If they were playing the same teams as UL they would likely have an even better record. In the National Spotlight tonight they wan't to make a name for themself. They played competitively with two ranked teams, there is no reason they shouldnt hang around with UL .. UL doesn't know whats coming (this could be a blowout!).

Johncrud. Any successful investor should have his money invested in different companies, and not all in the same place; thus, any successful gambler should have their money invest in different sportsbooks. I have my money invested in four different books, so I can shop around for the best lines, but do not keep all of my money in these books at any given time. I have my money in a savings account to gain interest and when I need more I deposit it, I do not touch this money for personal use; however.

GL

[bypp]

Glad to see you on Ark St...Good luck this season

[RoagBettor]

I have gone ahead and placed my NFL wagers for this weekend, while the lines are still on the key numbers. Still looking at college, but have Arkansas State tonight.

NFL Sunday
4,270 - New Orleans -3 -122
4,200 - Baltimore +3 -120
3,885 - Tampa Bay +3.5 -111
2,020 - Kansas City +6.5 -102

Monday
2,750 - Denver +4 -110


GL

I like all of them except Denver. I think San Diego brings them back to earth in a big way Monday night.

Good luck.

[kopite]

thanks everybody.
Dark Energy, the problem is .. I did NOT start this journey yesterday I started two weeks ago, but I started posting my selections yesterday. My plays are tracked and followed at three other forums as well, but as of yesterday I am also tracking my progress in a "spreadsheet" on this website, so you can see my record since posting here on there as well.

Dimon .. just watch. Arkansas State has had a very difficult schedule, and to be honest, IMO this is their easiest game of their schedule. If they were playing the same teams as UL they would likely have an even better record. In the National Spotlight tonight they wan't to make a name for themself. They played competitively with two ranked teams, there is no reason they shouldnt hang around with UL .. UL doesn't know whats coming (this could be a blowout!).

Johncrud. Any successful investor should have his money invested in different companies, and not all in the same place; thus, any successful gambler should have their money invest in different Sportsbooks. I have my money invested in four different books, so I can shop around for the best lines, but do not keep all of my money in these books at any given time. I have my money in a savings account to gain interest and when I need more I deposit it, I do not touch this money for personal use; however.

GL

Great thread josh and excellent insights for any newbies. Good call Miami but unfortunately I was already on Jets
Tailing the Arkansas State GL

[kopite]

By newbies, should have added like me so thanks and appreciated

[Pap45murF]

Seen a couple of these "journeys" before. Never seen one get even remotely close, however. I'll be tracking you for a few games. I'm in total agreement with your underdog picks,

TB getting 3.5 at home against a not-so-good team, they know this is their chance to win 1.

KC getting 6.5 based on record alone, Skins are no better than they are.

I'm staying away from Saints/Giants though. I believe Saints will prob pull this off, but I refuse to bet against a Manning brother until they show me they're capable of failing. ...actually, now that I look at previous games, the only real win Giants have had was when they pulled out a squeaker against Dallas.

Hmmmm.

I was curious, do you ever buy points? You're on the danger line with most of the bets, seems like you could've pushed to Bal +3.5, NO -2.5, and KC +7 or 7.5

[josh hamilton]

I like all of them except Denver. I think San Diego brings them back to earth in a big way Monday night.

Good luck.

San Diego has a shot at winning, but they don't cover this line. I would not be overly surprised by a 1-3 point win by San Diego, but I handicapped it as a 6 point Denver win.

papsmurf, I do buy half points but rarely. I did so more when my betting limits were lower, but now that I have a larger capital to wager from I do not like buying a half point and wasting 20% of profits .. kills you in the long run, and really is not worth it. If I were to buy the half point, I would likely just wager on the ML instead.

thanks guys and GL

[RoagBettor]

San Diego has a shot at winning, but they don't cover this line. I would not be overly surprised by a 1-3 point win by San Diego, but I handicapped it as a 6 point Denver win.

thanks guys and GL

I completely disagree, but we'll see. San Diego is my play of the week. Denver's win over New England does not make them an elite team, the Pats are a shadow of their former selves this year. Cincy should have beaten Denver, and they beat Dallas, Oakland and Cleveland, 3 of the worst teams in the league (and they weren't dominant in any of them).

Throw in that San Diego owns them at home, and this is a slam dunk blowout win for the Chargers.

[josh hamilton]

I completely disagree, but we'll see. San Diego is my play of the week. Denver's win over New England does not make them an elite team, the Pats are a shadow of their former selves this year. Cincy should have beaten Denver, and they beat Dallas, Oakland and Cleveland, 3 of the worst teams in the league (and they weren't dominant in any of them).

Throw in that San Diego owns them at home, and this is a slam dunk blowout win for the Chargers.

haha, what the **** has San Diego done this year to deserve to be favorites, especially against an undefeated division rival.

Look at the teams they have played, and how they have played and understand why the bookmakers have made this line what it is.

If they opened the line Denver -3 they would have gotten TONS of money on San Diego from sharps. If they opened the line PK, and there wouldn't have been all that much money on this game wagered. San Diego -4 and the sharps lay off this game, so they get lots of square money on Denver, and a little bit of sharp money on San Diego as well as some square money .. regardless of who covers, the books win. Based on the line, the books expect to win money off of people wagering on Denver ML and San Diego -4; this really has the makings of a field goal game.

[josh hamilton]

Also in this Denver/San Diego game, San Diego is coming off a bye and next week Denver has a bye. Many will think that with San Diego coming off a bye they will be rested and handle Denver at home but in reality teams try harder when their next week is a bye than when coming off a bye BECAUSE they know if they lose they have two weeks of their coaches yelling at them, if they win they have a mini vacation practically.

I love betting teams going into their bye vs. teams coming off their bye.

[RoagBettor]

You make valid points, I just disagree with the end result.

Good luck with your other plays!

[josh hamilton]

You make valid points, I just disagree with the end result.

Good luck with your other plays!

Thankyou, I was just under the impression that you were making the wager because the line shouldnt be -4, that Denver should be favoured and since they aren't that you feel real confident that San Diego would win. I used to look at games like this sometimes, but they break even after a while. You need to think why is the line like this, what are the books trying to accomplish (think both ML and ATS) and see if there is any value in the line. IMO there is 3 point value in Denver +4.

GL with San Diego, and any other selections you have this weekend brotha.

[Caliente]

Great posting, you'll meet your GOAL just for sharing what you know.
Take the bashing with a grain of salt and welcome the positives.
GL..........

Caliente, look out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smogs]

I'm so glad you are on Baltimore +3 for one of your bigger weekend bets.
Just using your style, i think there is a healthy point advantage on the Over 48 in the GB game, we may have differing techniques but i have a projection of roughly 34-20. I like this for a big bet and was wondering if you had a sway/alternate view on it?

Good luck with ark st tonight

[Totolover1409]

Roagbett, like SD myself but we'll see how Hamilton does

[josh hamilton]

Another reason why San Diego is -4, is because this line opened at San Diego -9.5 before the season started, so if they made Denver a -3/-4 favourite, there would be some sharps puting alot of money on San Diego, the same sharps who put lots of money on the +9.5 for denver at the start of the season. This is for vegas atleast, and offshore books get their opening lines from the vegas Linesmakers.

[ticketgod]

Isnt this the same Josh that bet 10,000 on the rams and posted on the other board? The rx forum!

[josh hamilton]

really thought we had this one on the final drive .. yes ticket, that is me .. i still post there, that wager was 6,600, the largest I have ever had.

We'll get it back tommorow, and if not the next day. This is longterm, and in the longterm we will win. I just need to make 5,000 a week to reach my goal by January, and the past two weeks I have done that. Just need to get positive by the weekend and i'll surely profit enough on the weekend to cover the 5,000 each week. GL everyone

[A-Funk]

I will keep an eye for some of your evaluations. Good luck on your goal.

[josh hamilton]

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-10-1 (+6,715$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-19-1 (+9,280$) - 53%
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October 14th, 2009:

I really thought we were going to win last night. Ark State had the ball on UL's 20 yard line, 1st and 10 with just over a minute left and two straight sacks occur. Oh well. Like I've said, throughout the week I hope to profit around 1,000$ and then on the weekend I attempt to profit 4,000$+.

Watch what I do here:

7 pt Teaser: 2,860$ - Boise State -1.5/OVER 46.5 (-130)

1,995$ - Tulsa +9 -105 (still bet at 8.5 if it drops)



Pending:

Friday MLB:
1,000$ : LAA Angels/New York under 8.5 +103
500$ : LAA Angels ML +157
500$ : LAA Angels -1.5 +250 (Alternate line)

NFL Sunday
4,270 - New Orleans -3 -122
4,200 - Baltimore +3 -120
3,885 - Tampa Bay +3.5 -111
2,020 - Kansas City +6.5 -102

Monday
2,750 - Denver +4 -110

GL