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  • Ryermkd
    Restricted User
    • 01-11-12
    • 3739

    #806
    Originally posted by Time is Money
    why are you surprised? game is in Oak.

    Line says it would be KC -6/7 at home, anything double digits would be absurd. This line is right where I expected it to be.
    Fixed.
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    • Time is Money
      SBR MVP
      • 12-03-07
      • 2255

      #807
      Originally posted by Ryermkd
      Fixed.
      MAYBE 7, no way would it be under a TD. It's not always worth 3 but KC has one of the biggest home field advantages in the NFL. Skins were catching 7 in KC the week after they beating Oakland. No reason to believe that Oakland would be anything less than a TD. 7.5/8 IMO.
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      • Ryermkd
        Restricted User
        • 01-11-12
        • 3739

        #808
        I put the 7 cause of Arrowhead no way it's more than -7.5...

        now that I think about it -6.5/7.5 is about right. In Arrowhead that is. More likely to have a hook line.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #809
          Time is right dude, kc -3 at Oakland, so -5/6 neutral = -8/9 at kc, prob -9 to protect Wong teasers.. not saying that what it be later in year but that what -3 away implies if they were at arrowhead.
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #810
            Originally posted by momo2017
            Any thoughts on raiders and chiefs game. Raiders only plus 3? I think another upset.
            I pretty much have to love a Thursday game to play this bs cash grab (like the over last week).. id have a hard time backing raiders cause kc owned them even when they were playing well. Only reason I don't love kc is cause it getting to desperation time for Oakland; if you made me play it I'd square up and lay the points tho,
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #811
              I'll say 1 thing I see a lot of cats on Oakland in forumville. Makes a play on kc feel little easier, lol.
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              • tigertom
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-27-12
                • 242

                #812
                Lang on kc. Nuff said for me.
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #813
                  Originally posted by tigertom
                  Lang on kc. Nuff said for me.
                  Lol, I never look at his plays cause it screws with me. I'm sure some the cats I've seen posting Oakland as a play are just as bad as him.
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                  • ram1502
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 12-26-08
                    • 822

                    #814
                    I think Carr looks a little better another week removed from his injury, Mack, Edwards, & co. Get after smith and make his life a living hell. Just think, like you said Bank, Oakland will play desperate with basically their season on the line. Prediction is 27-24 raiders, and smith gets sacked like 6/7 times.
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #815
                      Originally posted by ram1502
                      I think Carr looks a little better another week removed from his injury, Mack, Edwards, & co. Get after smith and make his life a living hell. Just think, like you said Bank, Oakland will play desperate with basically their season on the line. Prediction is 27-24 raiders, and smith gets sacked like 6/7 times.
                      I just don't like taking teams when it appears their opponent has their number. When Oakland was playing well previous seasons kc still beat them pretty handily. Kinda a toss up, desperation vs team that owns them, tough call and I hate Thursday night so pretty easy pass for me. Lean kc and under, think it plays more in the low 20s than mid to high, something like 24-20 one way or other. Actually like under little better than side but with it a 46.5 I don't really have the cushion I prefer off my number.. gl bro, glad to see ya around, stop by more often!
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                      • SAX27
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-03-15
                        • 1324

                        #816
                        Also laying the points as well as KC ML. They are pissed about last weeks L. I think Reid outthinks Oak on the short week!! Also taking a poke at the under.
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                        • Ryermkd
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-11-12
                          • 3739

                          #817
                          The key is if they can hit Carr good it's over, unless they pull a fast one and go to Cook. EJ is a fukkin joke, watched that bozo during his tenure in Buffalo, total chump.
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                          • survive
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-08-11
                            • 2388

                            #818
                            As a raider fan I wouldn’t be jumping to back this team until the coaching is figured out (fired). Bottom 3 coached team in the nfl this year imo
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                            • shocka1212
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-06-12
                              • 16788

                              #819
                              taking the Chargers ML this weekend. I like your play though and agree with it fully
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                              • Notorious_Donk
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-29-11
                                • 2689

                                #820
                                Last four years Chiefs are 11-5 ATS on the road after a loss ATS, and one of those wins was last year against the Raiders. I also like Andy Reid on a short week, similar to what survive said above. Small play on KC for me
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                                • shocka1212
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-06-12
                                  • 16788

                                  #821
                                  Originally posted by Notorious_Donk
                                  Last four years Chiefs are 11-5 ATS on the road after a loss ATS, and one of those wins was last year against the Raiders. I also like Andy Reid on a short week, similar to what survive said above. Small play on KC for me
                                  Im taking KC also, BOL
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                                  • ram1502
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-26-08
                                    • 822

                                    #822
                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                    I just don't like taking teams when it appears their opponent has their number. When Oakland was playing well previous seasons kc still beat them pretty handily. Kinda a toss up, desperation vs team that owns them, tough call and I hate Thursday night so pretty easy pass for me. Lean kc and under, think it plays more in the low 20s than mid to high, something like 24-20 one way or other. Actually like under little better than side but with it a 46.5 I don't really have the cushion I prefer off my number.. gl bro, glad to see ya around, stop by more often!
                                    Will do...been out of the game a little while. Life gets in the way of the fun stuff sometimes. This thread is a must read every week, as usual. Anxious to see what your totals look like. Liking cincy/pitt under as well as cle/tenny under.
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                                    • shocka1212
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-06-12
                                      • 16788

                                      #823
                                      Like this weeks card a lot.
                                      Leans so far (waiting till Sunday with hopes of getting a hook on a few of these plays.
                                      Baltimore +5.5 (win outright)
                                      Atlanta +3
                                      Bills -3
                                      Colts +3
                                      Dolphins -3
                                      Washington +4.5
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                                      • shocka1212
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-06-12
                                        • 16788

                                        #824
                                        Already took Giants earlier this week when the line opened so I have a good #
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #825
                                          Originally posted by shocka1212
                                          Like this weeks card a lot.
                                          Leans so far (waiting till Sunday with hopes of getting a hook on a few of these plays.
                                          Baltimore +5.5 (win outright)
                                          Atlanta +3
                                          Bills -3
                                          Colts +3
                                          Dolphins -3
                                          Washington +4.5
                                          I don't like ravens but I wouldn't lay that many points w minny either. I'm all about Miami just been hoping to find a -3 reasonably priced, everytime I've looked it's either been -3.5 or heavily juiced -3. Been slacking gonna try to get back to card later on.
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #826
                                            Bucs/bills un 45 (1x).. doesn't much matter to me who plays qb for bucs in this one, bills defense has been among the best against the pass having only allowed a 66 passer rating against them. Even more impressive is they only allowing teams to come away w tds in the red zone 33% of their trips! I just don't see bucs being able to score more than 20 here..

                                            Bucs defense has been terrible at times and coming off a embarrassing performance in zona last week. While that not exactly what we want for a under the more important thing imo is bills offense is atrocious.

                                            Tampa grades out poorly defending pretty much every wr in the passing game, 26th against teams #1 wr, 22nd against #2 wr, and worst in the league against the slot, but again who do bills have to exploit this? Tyrod a below average passer and the bills WRs not even worth mentioning! This a great bounce back spot for a Tampa defense who while struggling mightily have talent at every level.

                                            Think tampas poor defensive efforts give us value here as this a high number for a bills team who's recipe for success is a solid rushing attack and a top 5 defense. I have this at 41-43, think this be a very tight game where I have both teams right around 20-21 points.. imo anything above 43 is worth a play as I think certainly possible we see them tied at 20 with next fg taking the game..
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #827
                                              Originally posted by ram1502
                                              Will do...been out of the game a little while. Life gets in the way of the fun stuff sometimes. This thread is a must read every week, as usual. Anxious to see what your totals look like. Liking cincy/pitt under as well as cle/tenny under.
                                              I was hoping to get thru all the totals sooner but been kinda busy. Promised my nephew I'd take him to incredible pizza, lol. So soon as I get home this evening I will start with those 2.,
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #828
                                                Phins-3 (1x).. been waiting all week for this to be at -3 without all the juice. Maybe I'm still too high on fish but I simply don't believe jets are gonna beat them twice this season. Granted jets playing better than anyone expected but there serious value in this line considering Miami was -6 at ny when jets beat them earlier in year. Ajayi and phins defense should be enough to win this game against a jets team coming of a demoralizing loss..
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #829
                                                  Originally posted by ram1502
                                                  Will do...been out of the game a little while. Life gets in the way of the fun stuff sometimes. This thread is a must read every week, as usual. Anxious to see what your totals look like. Liking cincy/pitt under as well as cle/tenny under.
                                                  I totally understand why you like the under in pit but man I think books have made a pretty good adjustment here. This a low number for these 2 facing off and for steelers game in general. It appears last week was last chance we had hitting a steelers total that was way high!! Bengals injuries in the secondary worry me, haven't been able to find if those corners playing but appears they banged up. Assuming they playing I have this around 38 so gun to head I'd play under but little tighter to my number than I prefer for a play..

                                                  Far as Cleveland i had terrible time coming up w a number I feel confident in. I really don't like titans pass defense but who the hell on browns gonna make them pay? Is browns defense gonna make this competitive or are titans just gonna blow them out and create a situation where the second half garbage time special? I think if you like under the 1st half be something to look at where hopefully browns attempt to play like bears and try staying in the game w defense and rushing the ball..
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                                                  • shocka1212
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-06-12
                                                    • 16788

                                                    #830
                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                    Bucs/bills un 45 (1x).. doesn't much matter to me who plays qb for bucs in this one, bills defense has been among the best against the pass having only allowed a 66 passer rating against them. Even more impressive is they only allowing teams to come away w tds in the red zone 33% of their trips! I just don't see bucs being able to score more than 20 here..

                                                    Bucs defense has been terrible at times and coming off a embarrassing performance in zona last week. While that not exactly what we want for a under the more important thing imo is bills offense is atrocious.

                                                    Tampa grades out poorly defending pretty much every wr in the passing game, 26th against teams #1 wr, 22nd against #2 wr, and worst in the league against the slot, but again who do bills have to exploit this? Tyrod a below average passer and the bills WRs not even worth mentioning! This a great bounce back spot for a Tampa defense who while struggling mightily have talent at every level.

                                                    Think tampas poor defensive efforts give us value here as this a high number for a bills team who's recipe for success is a solid rushing attack and a top 5 defense. I have this at 41-43, think this be a very tight game where I have both teams right around 20-21 points.. imo anything above 43 is worth a play as I think certainly possible we see them tied at 20 with next fg taking the game..
                                                    this is a lock.. should be a 2u play
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                                                    • shocka1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                      • 16788

                                                      #831
                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                      I totally understand why you like the under in pit but man I think books have made a pretty good adjustment here. This a low number for these 2 facing off and for steelers game in general. It appears last week was last chance we had hitting a steelers total that was way high!! Bengals injuries in the secondary worry me, haven't been able to find if those corners playing but appears they banged up. Assuming they playing I have this around 38 so gun to head I'd play under but little tighter to my number than I prefer for a play..

                                                      Far as Cleveland i had terrible time coming up w a number I feel confident in. I really don't like titans pass defense but who the hell on browns gonna make them pay? Is browns defense gonna make this competitive or are titans just gonna blow them out and create a situation where the second half garbage time special? I think if you like under the 1st half be something to look at where hopefully browns attempt to play like bears and try staying in the game w defense and rushing the ball..
                                                      definitely not Kenny Britt.. how is he still around?
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #832
                                                        Really missed the boat on the Dallas/niners game. Still think it goes over but am really against playing a total late after it has moved passed a key number such as this one..
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #833
                                                          Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                          this is a lock.. should be a 2u play
                                                          Lol, I dunno bout lock but yea I'm considering upping. I just wanted to get thru rest of card before deciding on it being 2x, didn't want a situation where I had like 3 or 4 multiple unit plays. Lol., now that I'm mostly thru card i def think this one of better total plays.
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                                                          • shocka1212
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-06-12
                                                            • 16788

                                                            #834
                                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                            Really missed the boat on the Dallas/niners game. Still think it goes over but am really against playing a total late after it has moved passed a key number such as this one..
                                                            I think niners pull off the upset..bunch of scrub wide outs about to have a field day with that bbq chicken secondary Dallas has.
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #835
                                                              Week 7 so far:

                                                              Chargers -1.5 (1x), one of worst early lines I've gotten this year. Guess I should have realized most backing donks here. Might add a charger ml play or tease if I can find suitable partner.

                                                              Phins -3 (1x)

                                                              Bucs/bills un 45 (2x). Added a unit..
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                                                              • 2daBank
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-26-09
                                                                • 88966

                                                                #836
                                                                Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                                I think niners pull off the upset..bunch of scrub wide outs about to have a field day with that bbq chicken secondary Dallas has.
                                                                I think Dallas will outscore them but yea that why i like the over cause expect niners to put up more than their fair share.. as appealing as the points are we got 1 team off a bye while the other has played 3 straight road tilts all coming down to wire with 2 being in ot, afraid it a spot sf could come unraveled a little. It clearly niners or nothing far as side goes, I'm just leaning pass.
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                                                                • shocka1212
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-06-12
                                                                  • 16788

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                  Week 7 so far:

                                                                  Chargers -1.5 (1x), one of worst early lines I've gotten this year. Guess I should have realized most backing donks here. Might add a charger ml play or tease if I can find suitable partner.

                                                                  Phins -3 (1x)

                                                                  Bucs/bills un 45 (2x). Added a unit..
                                                                  I know you don't like teasing totals, but consider teasing the rams/cards over
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #838
                                                                    Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                                    I know you don't like teasing totals, but consider teasing the rams/cards over
                                                                    Funny you mention that cause I'm so close to pulling trigger on over anyways, lol. I been debating whether to wait and see if it creeps any lower? Agree it extreamly likely to go over 39.. there really no good Wong teaser options this week other than donks early now chargers. I was thinking skins to +10.5 was rock solid.
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                                                                    • 2daBank
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                                      • 88966

                                                                      #839
                                                                      My concern on that London over is rams been terrible in red zone of late. Also while ap helps cards offense he also makes some their numbers irrelevant as you would expect much more balance and far different approach if they playing w lead. I def think we have some nice big play potential in this one tho, would like it to drop little further as I have it pretty close to open.
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                                                                      • BossPicks30
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 09-26-17
                                                                        • 345

                                                                        #840
                                                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                        Bucs/bills un 45 (1x).. doesn't much matter to me who plays qb for bucs in this one, bills defense has been among the best against the pass having only allowed a 66 passer rating against them. Even more impressive is they only allowing teams to come away w tds in the red zone 33% of their trips! I just don't see bucs being able to score more than 20 here..

                                                                        Bucs defense has been terrible at times and coming off a embarrassing performance in zona last week. While that not exactly what we want for a under the more important thing imo is bills offense is atrocious.

                                                                        Tampa grades out poorly defending pretty much every wr in the passing game, 26th against teams #1 wr, 22nd against #2 wr, and worst in the league against the slot, but again who do bills have to exploit this? Tyrod a below average passer and the bills WRs not even worth mentioning! This a great bounce back spot for a Tampa defense who while struggling mightily have talent at every level.

                                                                        Think tampas poor defensive efforts give us value here as this a high number for a bills team who's recipe for success is a solid rushing attack and a top 5 defense. I have this at 41-43, think this be a very tight game where I have both teams right around 20-21 points.. imo anything above 43 is worth a play as I think certainly possible we see them tied at 20 with next fg taking the game..
                                                                        Bills will light up Tampa defense. They scored 26 vs Denver's defense at home which is way better than Tampa defense. Coming off a tough loss and having a bye week, I think 33-16 bills
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