Why Dallas topples Saints 31-24 tomorrow: in-depth analysis

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  • rolltideroll0
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-27-13
    • 476

    #1
    Why Dallas topples Saints 31-24 tomorrow: in-depth analysis
    First things first…. I am 100% on NFL picks that I’ve recommended here on SBR backed by my analysis…that being said, I’ve only been on here for 2 weeks so I wouldn’t blame you for taking that with a grain of salt. When I ‘cap games, I break them down on a weighted factor-analysis range scale. In other words, I break them down quantitatively (stats), affectively (game’s meaning/public perception), situationally, technically (trend analysis), and financially (where the books stand to win most). That’s my formula. Of course, which factors I weigh more and to what extent and the precise mechanisms of my analysis I cannot divulge-- obviously. But I can give a general breakdown of the game.
    Dallas is traveling to NO. The PUBLIC are backing the saints heavily @ home after coming off a loss to the Jets. Currently, ~80% of the money (spread/ml) is on the Saints….and still bookmakers still haven’t moved the line significantly lower…..why? This is why: The Saints should have opened -3 favorite @ home. Again, books are smart and understand public’s betting tendencies in relation to a ”good number.” Now why do I say the Saints should’ve been -3? Because this is a bigger game for Dallas than NO. Dallas leads in NFC East but not by much…. Philly won (like I predicted) last week too. So this puts the pressure on Dallas to win if they want to have a shot of the playoffs.
    Now for the situational/quantitative analysis… Saints Defense took a beating last week … key injuries for NO defense. That leaves Dallas able to run the ball…and easy 10-20 yard to TE. Saints were 25th against the rush to begin with, just in case anyone was wondering. Now on the opposite end, we have A LOT of injuries to Dallas’ defensive line and of course Dez Bryant on offense (although he has been more of a liability than an asset in recent outings) . That gives NO the ability to run the ball on the ‘boys. Problem is NO isn’t a running team and their Offense line will be at par with a 2nd string Dallas defensive line…Brees will want to throw it,,,, and Dallas’ secondary are all starters. So in the end we have 2 teams with similar strengths and weaknesses on offense/defense….with NO having the better offense @ secondary levels…but Dallas having a better defense and a balanced offense.
    So …situationally… who wants it more? Advantage is clearly Dallas. A win would solidify them as the leader in the division and that they are on track for the playoffs. In contrast, Saints are the Kings of their division with only Carolina to “worry” about. Also with “tougher” games ahead for NO… they may “trap” themselves by taking for granted a win over Dallas and preparing for their upcoming games.
    Last but not least…my quantitative analysis points to a Dallas win in 78.4% of the range of possibilities. Of course, this number is “arbitrary” to you guys…. But just to give you an example: I had St.louis (+13)covering the spread against Seattle in ~66% of the range of possibilities. Final score prediction (which is relative) : Dallas 31 Saints 24.
    I personally have the largest % of my plans on Dallas ML (+260) and Dallas +7 which I locked up on Thursday. Good luck.
  • Noleafclover
    SBR MVP
    • 06-06-13
    • 1349

    #2
    Surprised you didn't mention Rex Ryan at all. Also, most of dallas' injuries on d are in the secondary, not the line.
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    • TexasJayhawk
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-02-13
      • 181

      #3
      Originally posted by rolltideroll0
      First things first…. I am 100% on NFL picks that I’ve recommended here on SBR backed by my analysis…that being said, I’ve only been on here for 2 weeks so I wouldn’t blame you for taking that with a grain of salt. When I ‘cap games, I break them down on a weighted factor-analysis range scale. In other words, I break them down quantitatively (stats), affectively (game’s meaning/public perception), situationally, technically (trend analysis), and financially (where the books stand to win most). That’s my formula. Of course, which factors I weigh more and to what extent and the precise mechanisms of my analysis I cannot divulge-- obviously. But I can give a general breakdown of the game.
      Dallas is traveling to NO. The PUBLIC are backing the saints heavily @ home after coming off a loss to the Jets. Currently, ~80% of the money (spread/ml) is on the Saints….and still bookmakers still haven’t moved the line significantly lower…..why? This is why: The Saints should have opened -3 favorite @ home. Again, books are smart and understand public’s betting tendencies in relation to a ”good number.” Now why do I say the Saints should’ve been -3? Because this is a bigger game for Dallas than NO. Dallas leads in NFC East but not by much…. Philly won (like I predicted) last week too. So this puts the pressure on Dallas to win if they want to have a shot of the playoffs.
      Now for the situational/quantitative analysis… Saints Defense took a beating last week … key injuries for NO defense. That leaves Dallas able to run the ball…and easy 10-20 yard to TE. Saints were 25th against the rush to begin with, just in case anyone was wondering. Now on the opposite end, we have A LOT of injuries to Dallas’ defensive line and of course Dez Bryant on offense (although he has been more of a liability than an asset in recent outings) . That gives NO the ability to run the ball on the ‘boys. Problem is NO isn’t a running team and their Offense line will be at par with a 2nd string Dallas defensive line…Brees will want to throw it,,,, and Dallas’ secondary are all starters. So in the end we have 2 teams with similar strengths and weaknesses on offense/defense….with NO having the better offense @ secondary levels…but Dallas having a better defense and a balanced offense.
      So …situationally… who wants it more? Advantage is clearly Dallas. A win would solidify them as the leader in the division and that they are on track for the playoffs. In contrast, Saints are the Kings of their division with only Carolina to “worry” about. Also with “tougher” games ahead for NO… they may “trap” themselves by taking for granted a win over Dallas and preparing for their upcoming games.
      Last but not least…my quantitative analysis points to a Dallas win in 78.4% of the range of possibilities. Of course, this number is “arbitrary” to you guys…. But just to give you an example: I had St.louis (+13)covering the spread against Seattle in ~66% of the range of possibilities. Final score prediction (which is relative) : Dallas 31 Saints 24.
      I personally have the largest % of my plans on Dallas ML (+260) and Dallas +7 which I locked up on Thursday. Good luck.
      Dallas' secondary has allowed FOUR 400 yard passers this season. This secondary is still not in sync with Monte Kiffin schemes and Sean Payton's Saints are the absolute last offense you want to face unprepared. Brees is going to have a FIELD DAY vs. this secondary. Add to that, a weak pass rush (extremely banged up D-line/LB's) and Dallas will allow their 5th 400 yd passer.

      But all this doesn't mean NO is going to blow Dallas out. As you pointed out, NO has a horrible rush D. If Dallas stays focused (i.e. Bryant not throwing a tantrum) and commits themselves to a balanced offensive attack then they have a SLIGHT chance to upset. I don't see that happening in New Orleans on a Sunday night.. Definitely see a solid chance of Dallas covering but no way in hell do they win this game.
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      • booksbroker
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-19-13
        • 553

        #4
        NO in dome at home!!! Brees will light it up.
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        • jimminn
          SBR MVP
          • 04-23-11
          • 1176

          #5
          Darn I am already on the saints. Wish I would have read this first .
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          • Bbfromgpt
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-24-12
            • 6115

            #6
            Originally posted by jimminn
            Darn I am already on the saints. Wish I would have read this first .


            It's the saints or no play

            Pretty confident the saints win by at least 17

            37-20
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            • AchillesTG
              SBR MVP
              • 07-19-13
              • 1648

              #7
              One thing about Dallas, they have played more 3 point or less games than any Team over the last three years. They are frustrating as hell, but with them, it always comes down to a few plays at the end of the game. Nobody thought they could hang with Denver!

              Cowboys could be jacked up to play against Rob Ryan.

              At least we have time to watch the line, since it is a night game.
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              • rolltideroll0
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-27-13
                • 476

                #8
                Please keep in mind that my "78.4%" probability range includes Dallas winning ATS…. If u r hesitant …then take the points with Dallas…..+6.5 at the moment. Good luck
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                • fecgp40
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-01-11
                  • 5750

                  #9
                  Thanks for the write up dude. Good work. It should be an interesting game. I certainly think Dallas has a great shot at covering. Winning outright is a different story...

                  Originally posted by rolltideroll0
                  First things first…. I am 100% on NFL picks that I’ve recommended here on SBR backed by my analysis…that being said, I’ve only been on here for 2 weeks so I wouldn’t blame you for taking that with a grain of salt. When I ‘cap games, I break them down on a weighted factor-analysis range scale. In other words, I break them down quantitatively (stats), affectively (game’s meaning/public perception), situationally, technically (trend analysis), and financially (where the books stand to win most). That’s my formula. Of course, which factors I weigh more and to what extent and the precise mechanisms of my analysis I cannot divulge-- obviously. But I can give a general breakdown of the game.
                  Dallas is traveling to NO. The PUBLIC are backing the saints heavily @ home after coming off a loss to the Jets. Currently, ~80% of the money (spread/ml) is on the Saints….and still bookmakers still haven’t moved the line significantly lower…..why? This is why: The Saints should have opened -3 favorite @ home. Again, books are smart and understand public’s betting tendencies in relation to a ”good number.” Now why do I say the Saints should’ve been -3? Because this is a bigger game for Dallas than NO. Dallas leads in NFC East but not by much…. Philly won (like I predicted) last week too. So this puts the pressure on Dallas to win if they want to have a shot of the playoffs.
                  Now for the situational/quantitative analysis… Saints Defense took a beating last week … key injuries for NO defense. That leaves Dallas able to run the ball…and easy 10-20 yard to TE. Saints were 25th against the rush to begin with, just in case anyone was wondering. Now on the opposite end, we have A LOT of injuries to Dallas’ defensive line and of course Dez Bryant on offense (although he has been more of a liability than an asset in recent outings) . That gives NO the ability to run the ball on the ‘boys. Problem is NO isn’t a running team and their Offense line will be at par with a 2nd string Dallas defensive line…Brees will want to throw it,,,, and Dallas’ secondary are all starters. So in the end we have 2 teams with similar strengths and weaknesses on offense/defense….with NO having the better offense @ secondary levels…but Dallas having a better defense and a balanced offense.
                  So …situationally… who wants it more? Advantage is clearly Dallas. A win would solidify them as the leader in the division and that they are on track for the playoffs. In contrast, Saints are the Kings of their division with only Carolina to “worry” about. Also with “tougher” games ahead for NO… they may “trap” themselves by taking for granted a win over Dallas and preparing for their upcoming games.
                  Last but not least…my quantitative analysis points to a Dallas win in 78.4% of the range of possibilities. Of course, this number is “arbitrary” to you guys…. But just to give you an example: I had St.louis (+13)covering the spread against Seattle in ~66% of the range of possibilities. Final score prediction (which is relative) : Dallas 31 Saints 24.
                  I personally have the largest % of my plans on Dallas ML (+260) and Dallas +7 which I locked up on Thursday. Good luck.
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                  • GoBlue77
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-20-11
                    • 9166

                    #10
                    I could have summed up a writeup about 2 hours quicker than it prob took you to write that

                    Dallas defense is garbage, take the Saints. end story/
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                    • rolltideroll0
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-27-13
                      • 476

                      #11
                      not too late boys... i'm 80%+ this week... i knew this was the week of upsets....check out my record: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...s-weekend.html
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                      • dzuke155
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 03-05-12
                        • 260

                        #12
                        What do you think of the over/under?? nice job today
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                        • rolltideroll0
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 10-27-13
                          • 476

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dzuke155
                          What do you think of the over/under?? nice job today
                          Well as you can see my predicted score is right there @ 55....the line is right there at 54-55....so for me the over/under is a no play BOL
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                          • stefan084
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-21-09
                            • 1490

                            #14
                            I am currently 1-0 on all my 5 star picks ( took denver team total over 9.5 for game, bought it down from 32.5 at -135000 odds ) so believe me when I say I know my NFL. The Saints imo have over a 56% chance of winning this game
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                            • Mercersux
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-03-12
                              • 1521

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stefan084
                              I am currently 1-0 on all my 5 star picks ( took denver team total over 9.5 for game, bought it down from 32.5 at -135000 odds ) so believe me when I say I know my NFL. The Saints imo have over a 56% chance of winning this game
                              I tailed...Great call stefan
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                              • Delicious
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-26-11
                                • 1006

                                #16
                                "my quantitative analysis points to a Dallas win in 78.4% of the range of possibilities"

                                Books are not giving +230 on a team with a 78% chance to win, or +6 at -110. This gibberish makes zero sense.
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                                • Eric22174
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-01-10
                                  • 1334

                                  #17
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                                  • Delicious
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-26-11
                                    • 1006

                                    #18
                                    "
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                                    • Eric22174
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-01-10
                                      • 1334

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Delicious
                                      You have been here three years and this is your response?
                                      Yup
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                                      • importmoon
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-22-11
                                        • 1140

                                        #20
                                        boys and over..thx me tomorrow..
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                                        • fecgp40
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-01-11
                                          • 5750

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by importmoon
                                          boys and over..thx me tomorrow..
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                                          • hugh4310
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-10-10
                                            • 2302

                                            #22
                                            Well good write up, bad call on Dallas. Saints do whatever they want on offense and Cowboy's will not keep up.
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                                            • rov4life
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 09-21-13
                                              • 51

                                              #23
                                              lmao why dallas will topple the saints. let's see cowboys numerous injuries on defense (before sean lee went out) 31st pass d vs the 3rd best past offense, saints coming of a loss, get colston back. Bryant 0 catches witten 1. The saints have 4 players with more yards receiving then the whole cowboys team does combined. excellent call on this game brah
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                                              • BMoreBird
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-26-12
                                                • 889

                                                #24
                                                Cool story bro
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                                                • TheMLBKing
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-13
                                                  • 1129

                                                  #25
                                                  lol this is how you guys get buried, listening to idiots like OP
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                                                  • Goatboy
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 12-05-12
                                                    • 193

                                                    #26
                                                    I am betting let's see my in depth ANAList says that the moon will crash into the earth at 8:54 am monday morning...............do what you can before that time..............

                                                    Let's face it everything anyone says on here is 50/50 one side has to win...one side lose...all these people saying with this % stuff nobody is 100% these forums are full of bullshitters who have the lock of the week and the whole 9 yards
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                                                    • pulledclear
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-19-12
                                                      • 6684

                                                      #27
                                                      That was time well spent and quite informative. What is your position on 2+2.
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                                                      • pulledclear
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-19-12
                                                        • 6684

                                                        #28
                                                        "weighted factor-analysis range scale."

                                                        Holy fck!!! Now I have heard it all.
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                                                        • pulledclear
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-19-12
                                                          • 6684

                                                          #29
                                                          here is a formula for you Jr.

                                                          Jerry Jones+Tony Romo= a fckng disaster waiting to happen


                                                          Next topic!
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                                                          • Goatboy
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 12-05-12
                                                            • 193

                                                            #30
                                                            Lock of the week....in depth
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                                                            • Crate Mayne
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-19-13
                                                              • 655

                                                              #31
                                                              Cowboys liveplay at +20000, hurry up n get on it! lol
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                                                              • Bbfromgpt
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-24-12
                                                                • 6115

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by importmoon
                                                                boys and over..thx me tomorrow..
                                                                Lol boys mighta been the worst play of the year, but at least the over got a split
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                                                                • TexasJayhawk
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 10-02-13
                                                                  • 181

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TexasJayhawk
                                                                  Dallas' secondary has allowed FOUR 400 yard passers this season. This secondary is still not in sync with Monte Kiffin schemes and Sean Payton's Saints are the absolute last offense you want to face unprepared. Brees is going to have a FIELD DAY vs. this secondary. Add to that, a weak pass rush (extremely banged up D-line/LB's) and Dallas will allow their 5th 400 yd passer.

                                                                  But all this doesn't mean NO is going to blow Dallas out. As you pointed out, NO has a horrible rush D. If Dallas stays focused (i.e. Bryant not throwing a tantrum) and commits themselves to a balanced offensive attack then they have a SLIGHT chance to upset. I don't see that happening in New Orleans on a Sunday night.. Definitely see a solid chance of Dallas covering but no way in hell do they win this game.
                                                                  Can't say I didn't warn you Tide...

                                                                  Edit: As of 10:35 PM CST...Drew Brees has 392 yds passing. Oops!
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                                                                  • rolltideroll0
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-27-13
                                                                    • 476

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Boys, I was flat out wrong. I highly underestimated the extent of Dallas’ defensive injuries. 40 1st downs by NO says it all. I still made money today…but I thought I had a huge payday coming until I saw the worst defensive performance I have ever witnessed in the NFL
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                                                                    • eagle8999
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 10-13-13
                                                                      • 156

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The boys beat up on bottom feeders and lose to good teams not hard to figure out
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