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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #316
    Originally posted by dilaudid8
    yeah we called that under right on in that NO game. bank somebody just told me that 80 percent of the public bet the over
    doesnt surprise me, ppl like overs..to be honest until a couple years ago all i played was unders but then the NFL started pussifying the gm and i got buried as all a sudden every damn ball that went up that didnt get caught was now pass interference, every good hit that dislodged the ball from the wr was a 15 yard penalty and no matter what every damn gm had points which killed me as for whatever reason i was always much better at identifying low scoring defensive gms than shootouts.. had to change my philosophy big time cause believe me when this 1st started happening i got buried! came to realization that if i didnt like the under it must be a over and long run it has helped as numbers have since adjusted and now im comfortable playing both when my numbers agree and im def a better totals capper because of it.. couldnt tell ya how the fukk minny scored 30 today tho? lol
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #317
      Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
      Bank your leans earlier this week, which I didn't look back and bet!, actually did pretty well for the leans I had you listed with. I need to start betting anything you mention lol. Besides JAGS.
      yea it would appear you are correct they are really that stinking bad.. glad i stayed away as trust me i was really tempted to play them if only cause laying that many points w oak seemed crazy to me.. something to be said for not playing every lean, lol...
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #318
        Originally posted by Smoothieopath
        Thank you Arizona, and have a good night. Off to starting a new week.

        And bank, thank you too, your ideas are greatly helping me.
        glad to hear it brother it my pleasure..
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #319
          Originally posted by Smutbucket
          I have a faded memory of last year game this exact matchup but didnt this exact same scenario happen in last years game but teams were reversed? 4th and 1 at goalline and TB got stopped? was that saints/tb last year?
          i forget how it went down but yea it was down to the very end where either saints scored or stopped bucs and it was a str8 bs call too! (clearly i was on bucs last year also, lol)... much like that fukkin joke of a call they made when brees got jacked up today(cleanly) and fumbled yet like always bitch refs on his nuts, and call a clean hit roughing and gave saints the ball back to go score...
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #320
            Originally posted by MobFade
            CAR letting BUF score that last TD blew the u44 for me as well. Sick beats.
            yea but i cant complain much as i was pretty lucky to push with lambs and felt somewhat fortunate to cash the teaser with hou as well, then again felt cheated out of bucs ml...all evens out..lol
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #321
              Originally posted by Smoothieopath
              SD/PHI over never disappoints.
              Originally posted by gRamblin' Man
              Great call on the SD/Philly Over Banker!!!!!
              chip kelly the gift that keeps on giving , although thu night will be conflicting as gonna put my 1st half under to the test! hopefully the number high as hell as i suspect wont be long till phi totals are lined over 56 quite regularly..
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #322
                if i didnt respond to anyone i apologize as tried to run through and answer real quick like but i gots to go... prob be back in the wee hours to see if anything worth playing 2marro..
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                • J.M. Disciple
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-16-10
                  • 5154

                  #323
                  I started studying some total trends for this NFL season for 2nd half plays. Its 59.259% at (16W-11L). It is a really small sample size I understand, so I will start testing last years games through out the rest of the week. Just going to try and break it down and do 1 month at a time. I got the idea from a middle system. I just expanded the filters. I know middle system was tested and came out to be 58% for the NFL, so i have high hopes for this one as there are a lot more plays.

                  2nd half will be on SEA under again. I already have whole game from a personal bet, but I want to bet small and test these trends until i have bigger sample size. Week 1 went 8-5 and week 2 it is 8-6 with Sea game pending.
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                  • Smutbucket
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-14-08
                    • 4001

                    #324
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    i forget how it went down but yea it was down to the very end where either saints scored or stopped bucs and it was a str8 bs call too! (clearly i was on bucs last year also, lol)... much like that fukkin joke of a call they made when brees got jacked up today(cleanly) and fumbled yet like always bitch refs on his nuts, and call a clean hit roughing and gave saints the ball back to go score...
                    ya nice hit with TB,

                    im actually pissed im not watching a lot of the games like I normally do because Im in the middle of moving to a new house and need to get my directtv setup....frustrating when I cant watch a lot of these games and have to use stattracker.....but by week 4 Ill be all setup

                    nice weekend again, very frustrating to deal with all these referees though, flags are just everywhere
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #325
                      Originally posted by 2daBank

                      under 21.5 1st half just small for me tonight..
                      like capping off another good day with a nice easy winner..only bummer was way 1st half played out i really didnt have a good answer for a 2nd half play, thought crossed my mind that sea was gonna take care of any lingering teasers but in the end decided to leave well enough alone as at times i dont have to be a total degen but 2nite will not be one of those times as might as well try and hit the Monday nighter!!!

                      pit/cin ov 40.5 -105...ill be the 1st to admit im not 100% comfortable playing a over between a couple smash mouth afc north div rivals as these gms tend to be physical and often times lower scoring..that said i believe that premise alone is giving us a few points of value here as i have this in the 43-45 range...

                      for starters steelers secondary is really thin right now, sure they have ike davis who has done a incredible job defending green over the years after him they are down his starting counterpart and also their nickle corner is highly unlikely to play in this gm as well.. in years past maybe not as much a problem as dalton didnt have as many weapons to throw to and with ike locking up green he often was eaten up by dick Lebeau's nasty fire zone blitzes which is a big part of the reason i believe cincy went out and drafted eifert in the 1st round despite already having a very good te in grisham as having these 2 on the field together leaves the defensive guru with some tough decisions, not to mention having to contend with sanu and jones on the outside and the added explosiviness bernard provides,,, last week against the bears dalton was getting the ball out of hands incredibly fast and accurately. i honestly dont believe either team has illusions that they will be able to come out and try and play smash mouth running gm and be successful because for 1 both defense are very tough to run on and in the the steelers case against that cncy front 7 with a beat up oline lets face it it just not gonna be the way to attack..

                      i guess you may ask after reading that why not just roll with cincy here as obviously i think they can get some things done offensively in this matchup and the answer is pretty simple, despite how pit looked last week, the oline in shambles, and having possibly the worst oc in the league im just not ready to write off big ben and the talent he has at his disposal on the outside to the tune of laying damn near a td against them after coming off a abysmal performance...

                      wouldnt shock me in the least if cincy came out the aggressor on both sides of the ball and jumped out to a early lead but knowing Ben it will only take so long before he says enough with this moron haileys offense if pit starts falling behind and starts going no huddle and calling his own number (namely the arians playbook that works!), and when that happens i dont wanna be holding a cincy-6.5 ticket as my range on this gm is really close to that number. i believe cincy wins but pit is not starting the season 0-2 w/o a fight in a gm i think we talking anywhere from 27-17 if the pit oline cant hold up or just as easily a dogfight that ends around 24-21..either way it plays out think there good enough shot at surpassing what these days in the new nfl qualifies as a rather low number that it warrants a play.. would not surprise me if this thing ticked up to 41/41.5 later on(although i thought i got the best of the philly total all week and all a sudden before kickoff turned out wasnt the case so what do i know, lol) but regardless that what i expect to happen so thought i would get it out there now...

                      glanced at next weeks card and see a few very interesting gms and early possibilities so will try to start posting thoughts, leans, or plays if i feel i need the number now either sometime today or during the gm tonight....gl everyone
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                      • SmittyZ28
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-04-12
                        • 1469

                        #326
                        Cinci ML -240 6 Units
                        O40.5 1 Unit

                        Good Luck all
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #327
                          "Bengals" and "-6 or -7" in a divisional game don't go together. Ever. Period. I don't care how shitty or beat up PIT is right now. The Bengals are a bunch of losers until they prove otherwise.
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                          • J.M. Disciple
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-16-10
                            • 5154

                            #328
                            I really like cincy in this spot, but two games I really liked this weekend both lost. Another person posted PIT +7 earlier in the week and I ended up taking PIT at +6.5 for my book. Which is a good sign now that the line is down to +6. Looking at the publics consensus, if majority is on CINCI why would the line drop?
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                            • Madison
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-16-11
                              • 6467

                              #329
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              Gay ass weather delay. in my day we used to walk to school in a foot of snow in lightening storms like it wasnt shit!!!
                              LOL!! In your day? We had to dodge dinosaurs in my day.
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                              • Madison
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-16-11
                                • 6467

                                #330
                                Not sure how much you guys saw of the last Philly drive but totally retarded by Kelly and Off. With 3 minutes on the clock and a D for both teams that would struggle to stop Oregon they go out of bounds on 3 or 4 early first downs, score and then give the ball back to SD with like 2 minutes to go. Horrible absolutely horrible.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by Madison
                                  Not sure how much you guys saw of the last Philly drive but totally retarded by Kelly and Off. With 3 minutes on the clock and a D for both teams that would struggle to stop Oregon they go out of bounds on 3 or 4 early first downs, score and then give the ball back to SD with like 2 minutes to go. Horrible absolutely horrible.
                                  watched whole thing, actually live bet philly at decent price when they were down. couldnt believe the shit, i mean im all for the high tempo shit (mainly cause it great for overs) but when your d been on the field all day and has been unable to stop sd at all (i mean i knew damn well i was screwed if sd got ball back with over a min so not sure why he didnt?), couldnt believe the play selection or fact they seemed to want to give the ball back with as much time as possible? for as much credit as i have been giving him for how his offense is designed it appears he could use some game management 101 course or a football for dummies book...
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                                  • Madison
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-16-11
                                    • 6467

                                    #332
                                    ^ yep. Can't believe a player, coach, or the booth didn't say wtf!!

                                    Early in the week so I'll ask a lame question given I'm new to survivor. Every pool in the world will be 90% Den or Sea. Do you just advance or pray for a miracle.

                                    Love your analysis man. Thx!!
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                                    • 2daBank
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 88966

                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by Madison
                                      ^ yep. Can't believe a player, coach, or the booth didn't say wtf!!

                                      Early in the week so I'll ask a lame question given I'm new to survivor. Every pool in the world will be 90% Den or Sea. Do you just advance or pray for a miracle.

                                      Love your analysis man. Thx!!
                                      depending on the size of pool, less ppl i say survive and dont worry bout matchups till you get there..bigger pool i tend to try and stay off the overwhelming popular sides and map out when i feel the team everyone taking a certain week could be just as valuable a play down the road and if i think there is another good spot for such team i dont mind gambling a little with a less favored team...far as this week specifically i honestly havnt had enough time to look at card and see if i feel confident enough in another team where i can potentially save den/sea as surely there several more times this yr they will be good plays so would like to keep them if possible...
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                                      • Madison
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-16-11
                                        • 6467

                                        #334
                                        Interesting thought. Is there a point where you can buy a survivor pool? 10% of entries up to 17 (# weeks) need to win.

                                        I'm fascinated by survivor as clearly 30-50% are clueless and giving their money away. The 2 I'm in have already lost 30% or so. Many taking TB @ NYJ first week.
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                                        • J.M. Disciple
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-16-10
                                          • 5154

                                          #335
                                          MY LEANS NFL
                                          SD ML +155 VS TENN
                                          MIN -5 VS CLE
                                          TB +7 VS NE
                                          HOU -2.5 VS BAL
                                          STL +4 VS DAL
                                          ARZ ml +320 1X VS NOH
                                          ARZ +7.5 2X VS NOH
                                          DET ml +117 VS WAS
                                          SF -10.5 *(MAYBE TEASE)
                                          SEA -19.5 VS JAGS
                                          BUFF ML +125
                                          NYG ML

                                          TOTALS
                                          TB/NE U43.5
                                          WAS/DET O49
                                          TEN/SD O43.5
                                          NYG/CAR U45.5
                                          ATL/MIA O44

                                          These are my early leans, take your time and see which ones you like. I only bet texans and nyg from another guy I am following so far. Not going to bet any of these unless you like them too. Trying to maintain discipline overall. I was following 4 people and overall down 6 units on the season, so now just following you and one other guy. Also a separate trend system I will be tracking and betting small on until I do further testing. I am at work, so can not discuss these plays too much, but will post my thoughts on these tomorrow when I have more time. I think home field on some of these games gave us some pretty good spreads as well as teams like TEN and ARZ making good adjustments, they seem to be two great teams this real for ATS or ML money.

                                          Appreciate your thoughts.
                                          Austin
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                                          • boilerwreck
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 09-16-13
                                            • 3

                                            #336
                                            anyone see pitt winning
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                                            • dilaudid8
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-19-10
                                              • 1866

                                              #337
                                              bank gl my brother to the bank baby
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                                              • dilaudid8
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-19-10
                                                • 1866

                                                #338
                                                boiler yes PITT can win this game there D alone can win. cinny has trouble beating PITT and PITT like's playing prime time football Monday they are the best
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                                                • J.M. Disciple
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                                                  • 11-16-10
                                                  • 5154

                                                  #339
                                                  Throw out past results between pitt and Cincinnati, two completely different teams this year. Cincinnati about same as how they ended, but pitt is definitely different.
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                                                  • Madison
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-16-11
                                                    • 6467

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                    Throw out past results between pitt and Cincinnati, two completely different teams this year. Cincinnati about same as how they ended, but pitt is definitely different.
                                                    Agree. This is a coming out game for Cinn. Either same old or team we saw emerging EOLY. Be surprised if they lose here.
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by boilerwreck
                                                      anyone see pitt winning
                                                      It the nfl bro so I certainly wouldn't rule it out. I find it unlikely but if Ben can get some time like bears gave cutler last week then who knows, as nc said while on paper I thinks Cincy pretty solid (actually have a sb future w them cause like the moves they have made and afc is weak) they havnt proven to be any kind of team you can count on as of yet.. I thought it was a toss up on the spread but obviously playing the over I'm hoping Ben can put some points up..
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #342
                                                        Jm it was my intention to go thru the card today but had some stuff to do so will either get done tonight after the wifey falls asleep or hammer out in morning and get back to you.. Sux as prob a few numbers that will have already moved but what can ya do, unfortunately this ain't what pays the bills...
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                                                        • texhooper
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 10001

                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                          "Bengals" and "-6 or -7" in a divisional game don't go together. Ever. Period. I don't care how shitty or beat up PIT is right now. The Bengals are a bunch of losers until they prove otherwise.
                                                          i'm in this boat. steelers +6.5 for me.
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                                                          • Madison
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-16-11
                                                            • 6467

                                                            #344
                                                            How much does Harrison factor. If anyone knows the cadence etc of the Pitt O he does.
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #345
                                                              Originally posted by Madison
                                                              How much does Harrison factor. If anyone knows the cadence etc of the Pitt O he does.
                                                              Does pit oline even know that? Not from what I've seen, lol.. Thought crossed my mind he should have been able to give the Cincy offense some helpful hints but who knows if that the case? I'm sure he will play his ass off tho and make his presence felt cause he just that type of guy that gonna show pit they should have signed him
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                                                              • Madison
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-16-11
                                                                • 6467

                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                Does pit oline even know that? Not from what I've seen, lol.. Thought crossed my mind he should have been able to give the Cincy offense some helpful hints but who knows if that the case? I'm sure he will play his ass off tho and make his presence felt cause he just that type of guy that gonna show pit they should have signed him
                                                                Agree. Diff scheme but agree. Cinn defers, I guess tells us a lot.
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                                                                • Madison
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-16-11
                                                                  • 6467

                                                                  #347
                                                                  I watch this Cinn team and cant help but think Belichek coaching and Brady QB and they might be best team in NFL.

                                                                  Their Off play calling and QB'ing is just horrible for the talent. It's all or nothing for them. They run for 6/7 per and where's the play action? Non existent. It's so obvious pass/run.
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                                                                  • xauwatroi
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 09-07-13
                                                                    • 187

                                                                    #348
                                                                    Anyone play 2nd Half?
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                                                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-16-10
                                                                      • 5154

                                                                      #349
                                                                      took the under in the 2nd half. cash it.
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                                                                      • xauwatroi
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 09-07-13
                                                                        • 187

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                                        took the under in the 2nd half. cash it.
                                                                        Nice. My s3 was slow I coukdnt do it but I took Cin -7 and Under
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