im not gonna lie bro, the only pool i play does ats, sometimes i do my wife's work pool which just winners (actually won it last week) but i still pick them like ats cause cant help myself..just giving you the heads up cause it gonna sound stupid when i say cle, in fact you should prob take cincy. dal, aints, i played pit in my ats but i hate that london bs (minny might actually be a decent pick cause id assume more ppl on pit), flip a coin with zona/tb as well, tampa starting a rookie qb for 1st time and zona traveling a bunch and playing early gm your educated guess is as good as mine, id say tampa but it wouldnt shock me if the kid threw 3-4 picks either..when i play them i basically take the obvious winners then the gms with lower lines i tend to go against everyone's perception on a bunch of them..
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Bank, love the posts. I wanted to get your thoughts on Chargers (+2.5) over Cowboys.
I went (+3) Chargers last weekend and loved every minute of it until the last play. I cant believe i'm saying this but I think Rivers is playing on another level right now and no one is even talking about it. That offense, at home, against a depleted Dallas D is going to put up a lot of points. Do you think this line gets to +3 with Dallas's blowout last week? Don't the public just ride the Cowboys here?Comment -
Cross I'm on san Diego as well, think they win straight up and imo shouldn't be a home dog here. Anthony Spencer out should help rivers in the pocket even more now. Like the over as well, I took a same game teaser with chargers + over at beginning of the week, got sd +8 over 39.5.Comment -
man im not gonna lie as much as i hate short road favs i think dal carves these guys up...i know they down a pass rusher but i still prefer their pass d vs rivers and his limited weapons more so than chargers pass d which been pretty bad vs romo/dez, chargers allowing teams to complete 67% of their passes and giving up 12.8 ypc that a rough combo and to make matters worse their run d is pitiful as well giving up over 5ypc..i think sd and ten both have been overvalued by getting to face worse than ppl think teams (pit for ten and phi for sd then they played each other) and both playing hou and hou letting them hang around, dont think either team is as good as they getting credit for..
i generally dont like dal as a fav, rarely like short road favs, but i think that not as deadly a combination as betting on sd right now while they getting more credit than i think they deserve, maybe they better than i think offensively but i know the defense is terrible and i still dont see the weapons on offense especially if floyd continues to sit out which im unsure of..i dunno what will happen with the line, im sure if you do like sd you better off waiting cause i doubt it gets worse, that hou gm texans out gained this team by 186 yrds then a weak titans offense did basically the same thing last week, both games were close but the yardage doesnt exactly say the same thing, maybe they can keep pulling that off but they will have to as i think dal out gains them by a similar number so feel like if you betting sd you basically having to hope they continue to cash their red zone chances at a incredibly high clip which id say isnt sustainable considering atm they scoring tds at a higher rate than any team finished last season, while also hoping dal settles for fgs or turns it over on a high number of theirs to keep chargers in it cause i believe dal will have more opportunity ..Comment -
SF/STL u 21 first half. Thank you and bol.Comment -
To add more fuel to your HOU fire, SEA RT is dealing w/ a knee injury and early word he might be questionable for Sunday. His replacements are 2 UDFA rookies.Comment -
to be honest im not sure if i like these more when they make sense like this week or when they scare the shit out me like last week? either way until a really bad run gets me off them thu night 1st half under where i be..
what you think about that bal/buf total? over makes sense based off what we talked about but it still requires some faith in balty offense actually playing a good gm since it has yet to happen..think it fair to say if it ever gonna improve this the week cause buf the worst defense they have seen by a long shot i think...Comment -
Tough call there man. You definitely got the angle with how many plays per game these guys run on Offense, and Buf is last in the league on D with the most plays allowed. Definitely bodes well for sustaining drives but I would worry that these drives are ground-based and underneath stuff just eating clock. BUF pass-rush IMO limits plays that take a while to develop for BAL, and their inabilities in the intermediate game, making me think BAL is going to have to play this 4 at a time against a pretty bad BUF Run D. That is what's been happening in both team's games as they are #31 (BAL) and #24 (BUF) in yards per play. RayRay not 100% could mean Pierce gets more touches that go between the tackles just eating clock. Byrd says he's not going unless 100% and Gilmore still out mean the BUF secondary is bad, but what weapons does BAL have to capitalize? You're right though if ever there was a coming-out party for this BAL offense, this is the game and with the holes in the BUF secondary they could definitely sneak one by to T Smith on play-action on early downs.
I think that BUF offense finds success with CJ outside the tackles. Crazy stat I saw on FO is that BUF only running outside the tackles 7% of the time! PHI 38% and KC 43% and that's what BUF needs to be doing IMO. Pretty obvious to me that the interior line isn't getting it done and you just need to get it to CJ in space. If they keep trying to pound it inside, I don't see much else getting started on the BUF offense. I like their WR's, but BAL's corners and pass-rush no slouches.
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As for the SF/STL 1st half under, ya that makes way too much sense. If you're SF I think you try to get back to the run game on 1st and 2nd down since you got pretty much nobody to throw to and just make it as easy as possible for yourself on 3rd. Let Kaep run the option and just try to sustain long drives and play field position when you can't convert. STL I think might be the team trying to pick up chunk yardage against weak corners, rookie safety and an anemic pass-rush. However when IND put out the blue-print for how to beat SF last week, it was the run-game inside so maybe STL can find success there as well.Comment -
yea id prob play this under even if it was sunday, sf has to try and establish a run gm...rams i dont know they may go the opposite way simply cause the 1st 3 gms what i watched it seemed like all these slow starts had a lot to do with their insistence of trying to run on 1st and 2nd down then dealing with 3rd and longs where bradford typically dumps off to the underneath man, so i think they prob be better served opening up a little on early downs but even if that the case i know bradford and that gonna still lead to longish drives cause he loves to check down ranking in the bottom half of the league in ypa and ypc..Comment -
chi/det ov 47 -112 (1.5x)..think i already talked about this gm somewhere, i think? short stupid version is, they scored 50 in this gm last yr when bears offense was trash and the d was playing way more stingy...lol.. if i havnt covered this gm already in the thread somewhere and there any questions feel free to ask..i put this in the 49-52 range so felt some value at 47...
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week 4
nyj+4.5..(1.5x).. once again backing the jets as for some reason defense and a rushing attack are undervalued imo....think jets will be able to pound the rock vs a team that giving up 4.4ypc which will open up geno to hit a few deep passes, cant believe it but really like the formula of this team right now, they should have blown the bills out if it wasnt for bunch of dumb ass penalties..this line stinks of ten being over valued after winning the overrated bowl, like i been saying think they both ten/sd being thought of to highly before last weeks gm and now titans are laying more than a fg because they won that gm? im still not a buyer, titans ypc is horrible yet they run a ton cause there no real trust in locker or his avg weapons, jets will keep the rushing yards down and then make locker beat a pass defense that is holding teams to a less than 50% completion percentage.. bottom line to me is unless geno plays absolutely terrible (as in turnovers leading to tds) there just no way i dont see a team that will dominate on the ground at the least keeps this gm close if not win...
hou ml +130..(1x).almost will certainly be my dog teaser team for the week as well and that team has had the honor of winning each week thus far.. when i played balty last week i mentioned that it be nice if hou looked bad in that gm cause then all the dickriders would jump ship to the seemingly invincible seachickens and sure nuff it worked out well. look is sea better than hou? probably. does that mean anything for this week? not likely. sea missing their all world tackle and going into a noisy ass stadium against a great pass rushing team, not a good combo. as dominate as sea has looked lets remember that was at home, they looked ordinary at best at carolina week 1 and for all intensive purposes should have lost that gm as deangalo ran well until the late gm red zone fumble, id expect hou rushing gm to have similar if not better success which opens up play action which only time schaub is above avg..to me this is a no brainer, hou will get pressure off the edge, sea wr corp doesnt strike fear into me which always what scares me when looking to back hou.. dont get me wrong you have to put sea 1 or 2 in your power rankings but to be road favs vs a solid hou team is crazy imo...
stl/sf..you should already know what im doing in this gm if ya paying attention
still plenty of stuff to come but these were the 1st ones i bet..looking forward to plenty of discussion, leans, plays, whatever this week as i have much more time than last week...
Originally Posted by 2daBank
2 team 6 point teaser of the week.(1.5x)
hou+8.5
indy-1.5
not a lot to explain here i dont think, already talked about hou and there several other threads talking that gm..indy wtf should i say? jags might keep it somewhat close as i think mjd could have some success and indy not really bout blowing teams out very often and they coming of blowing out sf so close is possible, losing? i seriously doubt it, ill take my chances with luck vs jags late if it goes that way.. just playing now cause 2 of my 3 books are starting to climb on indy and lower hou (other already has indy teaser protected at 9.5, pricks)so figured might as well get it before end up with worse numbers..
sf/stl 1st half un 20.5 (1.5x)...y'all know the drill, nothing to do with capping this bitch just the thu night shitfest auto play.. was hoping for 21 but with these offenses and defenses id suspect some fgs anyways tho so 20.5 -105 fine with me..Comment -
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they tried fukkin it off when it shouldnt even have been close..they outta fire fisher and his shithole staff if not for the horrid playcalling and pathetic tackling then for not just taking a damn knee instead of getting best olineman hurt and giving sf ball back like a jerkoff..
oh well, the thu night gravy train rolls to 3-0 this year
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U 21 1st half banked. Dabank is daman.Comment -
Yeah and I played it on the one night it lost last week!they tried fukkin it off when it shouldnt even have been close..they outta fire fisher and his shithole staff if not for the horrid playcalling and pathetic tackling then for not just taking a damn knee instead of getting best olineman hurt and giving sf ball back like a jerkoff..
oh well, the thu night gravy train rolls to 3-0 this year luv this shitbag cash grab 
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talk to me capy, excluding week 1 and turkey day i play them all, pretty sure it still perfect this yr isnt it??Comment -
nice call again banker
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Bank what's going on with that city? No Cardinals game today and the stadium not even half full for a primetime division game?
1st half under rolls, but ya what a bunch of unnecessary sweat there at the end of the half.Comment -
not shit, we just dont support the shitbag rams all that much,,sad but why spend the money? at least when i get raped at cards gms paying 9 bucks a freaking beer i get to see a good product.. if i was at this gm i would be pissed, actually would have left already but seriously i dont know anyone that goes to rams gms, sundays prob wouldnt matter if they were good id rather stay home but those few years we were greatest show on turf id been at this gm 4sure..Comment -
and that kiddies is why we only take 1st half in this shitfest
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Wow nice call on that 1H Under. TNF has been a crapfest for a while now.
And damn, I didn't know the Rams were this bad. First time I've seen them this year, was expecting to see a lot more from them.Comment -
it not really a "call" i bet it every week (excluding week 1 and turkey day, no short week in week 1 and turkey day it just seems like teams are way more up for),,it loses from time to time but it been really good since i been posting it.. if i actually kept track of shit i could tell ya the record but i dont, ive never been down from doing it i know that much.. yea i generally dont watch much of the lambs either cept on replay, typically i cant even make it thru the shortened version, lol...Comment -
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Originally Posted by 2daBank
Originally Posted by 2daBank
week 4
nyj+4.5..(1.5x).. once again backing the jets as for some reason defense and a rushing attack are undervalued imo....think jets will be able to pound the rock vs a team that giving up 4.4ypc which will open up geno to hit a few deep passes, cant believe it but really like the formula of this team right now, they should have blown the bills out if it wasnt for bunch of dumb ass penalties..this line stinks of ten being over valued after winning the overrated bowl, like i been saying think they both ten/sd being thought of to highly before last weeks gm and now titans are laying more than a fg because they won that gm? im still not a buyer, titans ypc is horrible yet they run a ton cause there no real trust in locker or his avg weapons, jets will keep the rushing yards down and then make locker beat a pass defense that is holding teams to a less than 50% completion percentage.. bottom line to me is unless geno plays absolutely terrible (as in turnovers leading to tds) there just no way i dont see a team that will dominate on the ground at the least keeps this gm close if not win...
hou ml +130..(1x).almost will certainly be my dog teaser team for the week as well and that team has had the honor of winning each week thus far.. when i played balty last week i mentioned that it be nice if hou looked bad in that gm cause then all the dickriders would jump ship to the seemingly invincible seachickens and sure nuff it worked out well. look is sea better than hou? probably. does that mean anything for this week? not likely. sea missing their all world tackle and going into a noisy ass stadium against a great pass rushing team, not a good combo. as dominate as sea has looked lets remember that was at home, they looked ordinary at best at carolina week 1 and for all intensive purposes should have lost that gm as deangalo ran well until the late gm red zone fumble, id expect hou rushing gm to have similar if not better success which opens up play action which only time schaub is above avg..to me this is a no brainer, hou will get pressure off the edge, sea wr corp doesnt strike fear into me which always what scares me when looking to back hou.. dont get me wrong you have to put sea 1 or 2 in your power rankings but to be road favs vs a solid hou team is crazy imo...
stl/sf..you should already know what im doing in this gm if ya paying attention
still plenty of stuff to come but these were the 1st ones i bet..looking forward to plenty of discussion, leans, plays, whatever this week as i have much more time than last week...
Originally Posted by 2daBank
2 team 6 point teaser of the week.(1.5x)
hou+8.5
indy-1.5
not a lot to explain here i dont think, already talked about hou and there several other threads talking that gm..indy wtf should i say? jags might keep it somewhat close as i think mjd could have some success and indy not really bout blowing teams out very often and they coming of blowing out sf so close is possible, losing? i seriously doubt it, ill take my chances with luck vs jags late if it goes that way.. just playing now cause 2 of my 3 books are starting to climb on indy and lower hou (other already has indy teaser protected at 9.5, pricks)so figured might as well get it before end up with worse numbers..
sf/stl 1st half un 20.5 (1.5x)...y'all know the drill, nothing to do with capping this bitch just the thu night shitfest auto play.. was hoping for 21 but with these offenses and defenses id suspect some fgs anyways tho so 20.5 -105 fine with me.. W
atl-2 (1.5x)..i dont want this going up any more, should have played at pk hopefully doesnt matter..it was either -1 (-120) or -2 (-110) for me and figure why pay for that point..im not gonna rewrite everything i just wrote in someones thread that is playing pats so i will just post link if you care, has both points of view.. it truly amazes meComment -
Good discussion in that other thread. Walt is a terrible sports bettor, but his site has good info on pretty much everything else. He uses a lot of stupid penetrating trends tho, shit like "Patriots are 16-8 ATS on the road vs. NFC opponents since 2001". This is why you're losing, Walt.
I liked NE as a teaser leg here. I don't think you can go wrong with Brady getting more than a TD as I think NE in this thing the whole way. This game kind of a coin flip for me and I think ATL-2 is about right with NE's weapons out.Comment
