NFL playoffs are bogus

[unit1884]

At 11-5 the following teams have worse records than the Pats and are in the playoffs:

San Diego 8-8
Philadelphia 9-6-1
Arizona 9-7

Someone please explain to me how this could possibly happen? WTF is with the NFL playoff system.

Another reason the NFL playoff system is bogus is the fact that every road team this week is FAVORED...

NFL, you have some explaining to do...

[VegasDave]

Something tells me if the Patriots were in at 8 - 8 and the Chargers were out at 11 - 5, you wouldn't be starting this thread. Call me crazy.

[nick2060]

Pats should've won their division if they wanted to be in the playoffs. Those same 8-8 chargers also spanked the pats 30-10. The other two teams are in the nfc so its hardly relevant. Pats cant compete with the elite teams right now anyways.

[unit1884]

Say what you will Nick, but the fact is the playoff system right now is not right. The NFL needs to add another wildcard spot

[VegasDave]

Say what you will Nick, but the fact is the playoff system right now is not right. The NFL needs to add another wildcard spot

How long have you been a Patriots fan?

[daneblazer]

why even have divisions then? Let's just have one big 32 team conference and the best 12 teams make the playoffs.

weren't the Jaguars 11-5 a few years ago and didn't make the playoffs?

[MilfDriller]

If there were Affirmative Action for teams in the NFL, the Lions would be in the playoffs and the Rams would have a bye!

[MrMonkey]

How long have you been a Patriots fan?

Too long!!! Haven't you guys won enough? No "tuck rule" or should I say ***k rule and where are you? Count your blessings!

No disrespect, but unit1884 is the poster child for HOMER!

More importantly, thanks Vegas Dave for all the great videos and have a prosperous, healthy, and happy New Year!

MrMonkey

[JoeSkolnik]

If your the best team in the NFL, you would make the playoffs under the current system

If the Patriots were truly worthy of the Super Bowl, they would have gotten in

[element1286]

why even have divisions then? Let's just have one big 32 team conference and the best 12 teams make the playoffs.

weren't the Jaguars 11-5 a few years ago and didn't make the playoffs?

Very true.

[Seattle Slew]

I'm a Pats fan, but have no problems with missing the playoffs. I would have expected a win over Baltimore and a loss at Pittsburgh. Cassel would struggle in the playoffs, just like I think Ryan and Flacco will.

Pats did everything right in December but couldn't get any help. The game that killed them was KC leading 31-24 over Miami last week and losing 38-31. That's the one the Pats needed for help. The Jets quit once they saw the Baltimore score.

I do hate the fact SD made the playoffs, not because they don't have talent, but because they played like crap most of the season and still won that awful division.

[Husker36]

Say what you will Nick, but the fact is the playoff system right now is not right. The NFL needs to add another wildcard spot

Hey just be happy it's not a popularity contest.... otherwise the Cowboys would be in and the Pats would still be at home.

GO COLTS!!!!

[unit1884]

Divisions will stay, to keep the rivalries going. But the NFL and MLB system for playoffs are not smart, for the fans or the league.

The NFL would make tons of money if they added another wild card spot, hell add 2 even. What is the point of a "bye week" only pussies need a bye.

[element1286]

Divisions will stay, to keep the rivalries going. But the NFL and MLB system for playoffs are not smart, for the fans or the league.

The NFL would make tons of money if they added another wild card spot, hell add 2 even. What is the point of a "bye week" only pussies need a bye.

Divisions would stay, but winning them would mean nothing. And you think the current system is bogus.

No more teams are needed for the playoffs.

Next time win your division.

[unit1884]

Winning them would mean you play a worse team in the playoffs you retard.

[VegasDave]

This sort of thing just makes me upset.

I'm a life long Raider fan, but since I was born in 1986, I've never seen my team win a Super Bowl. I've only seen them go to one Super Bowl, which they lost.

I was too young in the early 90s to remember much of that playoff team. My memory sets in in the mid 90s when we were a mediocre team (right around 8 - 8 every year), always so close but so far away. In 2000, 2001, and 2002, we finally made the playoffs and had some fun runs, but never quite enough.

Since then, I've endured 6 straight seasons without hitting the 6 win mark. A combined 24 - 72 record. 3 playoff berths in the last 14 years.

Plenty of fans of other teams that have seen futility like this over the past few decades.

The Patriots meanwhile have made the playoffs 9 of the last 12 years (including this year), in that stretch winning THREE Super Bowls! This season they put together an admirable effort and fall just short, but still have an excellent 11 - 5 season and gave their fans (who thought they were done when Brady went down week 1) a chance to be alive in the race for the entire season.

You miss the playoffs for the 3rd time in 12 years by this slim margin, when you've already won 3 Super Bowls in the last 7 years, and you call for the restructuring of the playoff system that your team has had so much success under for over a decade?

GIVE ME A FVCKING BREAK YOU UNGRATEFUL BASTARD.

[PeachDog]

adding anothe wildcard spot might be good for this season, but what happens when the 6th seed is 6-10 one season.

So there is no point in arguing. You have to win your division, and the Patriots didn't.


11-5 is amazing record, and not making the playoffs sucks, but look at the record of the 5th and 6th seeds?

I would love to see the Patriots in the playoffs, but 11-5 and not winning your division, and finishing out of the wildcard when other teams have better records tells me the amazing seasons other teams have.

I would be very disapointed if i was a pats fan. But the dolphins had a record of what?

[Kingctb27]

Another BS this is that you play the lowest "seed" and not the lowest regular season record. So if the Chargers (8-8) are to win and the Ravens are to win (11-5), then my titans have to play the Ravens.

Sounds reasonable.

[unit1884]

Look at the NHL and NBA playoff systems. Why doesnt the NFL adopt a similar system? sure some weaker teams will make the playoffs, but it would lead to more upsets and excitement.

[Doc JS]

Everybody knew the rules when the season started...

This is similar to the year in MLB when the Braves were still in the NL West and won like 104 games. The Giants finished one game behind them and didn't make the playoffs...That's the way the cookie crumbles...

Doc

[VegasDave]

Like I said, 9 playoff berths and 3 Super Bowls in the last 12 years and you are going to bitch about the year your team doesn't make it?

If Pats had beaten Pittsburgh and won the division and had a 1st round by you'd be thrilled.

[daneblazer]

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[frostno98]

Like I said, 9 playoff berths and 3 Super Bowls in the last 12 years and you are going to bitch about the year your team doesn't make it?

If Pats had beaten Pittsburgh and won the division and had a 1st round by you'd be thrilled.

He's like a yankee fan, too spoiled. I'm just thankful to have had opportunity to watched Denver play in the Superbowl 3 three times. Still have the 1998 superbowl victory recorded on VHS with commercials and everything.

[Doc JS]

From Peter King's MMQB on SI.com

The Patriots are one of the best eight teams in football right now, but they shouldn't be in the playoffs. Fair is fair. No violins because they went 11-5 and didn't get in. If they hadn't allowed Miami to use a high school formation to knock them senseless in September, if they hadn't gotten a silly David Thomas unnecessary-roughness penalty or a Matt Cassel interception two games later at Indianapolis in November, if they'd stopped Brett Favre on a third-and-15 overtime pass play in November ... any of those things go the other way, and the Pats go 12-4, are the third seed in the AFC this morning, and face Baltimore this weekend.

Nuff said...

[unit1884]

Wow, that was really juvenile Doc...

The fact that an 11-5 team will miss the playoffs means there is something wrong with the system, not with the Patriots...

Get a clue.

[daneblazer]

let's just have a big 64 team tournament and make everyone happy. Let some hockey teams that don't have anything to do that day play.

[losturmarbles]

someone is always going to be on the bubble no matter what the system is.

they lose their division because of the common game with miami of san diego.

they lose to san diego, maimi beats them. or they could have avoided by not losing @home vs maimi, or losing @home vs nyj.

they lost the wild card because balt has a better conference record. which if they beat pitt or ind they wouldve got the wildcard and balt would be on the outs.

[yisman]

why even have divisions then? Let's just have one big 32 team conference and the best 12 teams make the playoffs.

weren't the Jaguars 11-5 a few years ago and didn't make the playoffs?

nope. The only other team in the modern era to go 11-5 and miss the playoffs was the Cleveland Browns.

[losturmarbles]

nope. The only other team in the modern era to go 11-5 and miss the playoffs was the Cleveland Browns.

im pretty sure denver did many years ago.

[yisman]

NE wants to get in ahead of the Chargers, right?

The problem with that is that they got blown out, 30-10, by San Diego. If they were clearly the better team, shouldn't they have won that game? Then we wouldn't have this issue.

[MTek]

This sort of thing just makes me upset.

I'm a life long Raider fan, but since I was born in 1986, I've never seen my team win a Super Bowl. I've only seen them go to one Super Bowl, which they lost.

I was too young in the early 90s to remember much of that playoff team. My memory sets in in the mid 90s when we were a mediocre team (right around 8 - 8 every year), always so close but so far away. In 2000, 2001, and 2002, we finally made the playoffs and had some fun runs, but never quite enough.

Since then, I've endured 6 straight seasons without hitting the 6 win mark. A combined 24 - 72 record. 3 playoff berths in the last 14 years.


GIVE ME A FVCKING BREAK YOU UNGRATEFUL BASTARD.

Boo Hoo...I'm from Philly where our 1st super bowl in the 80's was lost to a Raiders team that was the 1st wildcard team EVER to win a super bowl.

Our 2nd was lost to the cheating "spygate" patriots...hmm...awful funny how they knew every sweep and screen was coming.

We lost 3 NFC championship games, 2 at home and 1 of those the closing game at our "old" stadium.

We STILL havent won a superbowl so if your looking for sympathy for the raiders, look in the dictionary..its between "shit" and "sphylis"

[unit1884]

Both you xxxx need to suck it up... take a look at Lions fans, they have it the worst.

[yisman]

im pretty sure denver did many years ago.

You're right. The 1985 Denver Broncos went 11-5 and missed the playoffs.
I think I confused the Broncos and Browns.

weren't the Jaguars 11-5 a few years ago and didn't make the playoffs?

Jacksonville's best record when missing the playoffs was 9-7, in 2004.

They finished 11-5 in 1997, 1998, and 2007, and they made the playoffs each time.

[VegasDave]

Boo Hoo...I'm from Philly where our 1st super bowl in the 80's was lost to a Raiders team that was the 1st wildcard team EVER to win a super bowl.

Our 2nd was lost to the cheating "spygate" patriots...hmm...awful funny how they knew every sweep and screen was coming.

We lost 3 NFC championship games, 2 at home and 1 of those the closing game at our "old" stadium.

We STILL havent won a superbowl so if your looking for sympathy for the raiders, look in the dictionary..its between "shit" and "sphylis"

Dude I said RIGHT IN MY ORIGINAL POST:

Plenty of fans of other teams that have seen futility like this over the past few decades.

I'm not saying Raider fans have it worse than anyone, I'm just saying a damn Patriots fan shouldn't be bitching the one year he doesn't make the playoffs.

[xyzky]

From Peter King's MMQB on SI.com



Nuff said...

Thanks!!