If you call yourself a professional bettor, how could you take Eagles -3

[JBC77]

The Giants are the play at +3 without question...if you take at anything by more than -2.5 ur nuts.

VegasDave I respect your NFL handicapping, but sometimes I think that you look too much into "what Vegas wants to make people believe"....it hurt you with Oakland and Seattle last week...

Simple fact is that the Giants are a much better team, and they Phillys havnt done much against decent teams. Not sayint they can't win, but the actually bet money that they would win by more than 3 is crazy

Great post. I think people tend to over analyze the whole square / sharp thing as well as the reasoning why bookmakers put out the lines.

It has no basis for the actual outcome of the game. If your pick is based on numbers and statistics I don't think you ever really should consider whether your choice is square or sharp.

[nysmoneyman]

Date placed:
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(215) Buffalo Bills +17 Sun@1:00p
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(231) New York Giants +16 Sun@8:15p
Competitor232) Philadelphia Eagles Teased 13.0 points

[yisman]

The line has stayed steady all week at three so there's no RLM because there's no line movement at all.

I would not bet this based on RLM (I just PMed LT Profits, one of the main proponents of RLM on this forum and he said the same), but I do have a slight lean on the Eagles simply based on how good I think they are. Giving three is rough, but I'd do it before I bet the other way.
I don't have money on the game.

[outforseason36]

Eli is average and not very good and will play a bad game????What are you basing this on his first two seasons? Please give me a break

The Giants go as he goes. Their brilliant run at the end of last season and the beginning of this season was due to the fact that he was managing the game and taking care of the football. The Eagles of 2008 are not the Eagles of 2007. They are getting after the QB and creating turnovers. Over the last couple of weeks, I have seen flashes of the old Eli. Although the numbers do not show turnovers, he has been nonchalant with his throws and how he handles the football in the pocket. It is just my personal opinion that it is just a matter of time before he returns to his old, but true form. As far as the whole "first two seasons" remark, this is his 5th season and prior to this season, he has nearly a 1:1 career TD to INT Ratio. You do not have to agree with anything I said and I do not expect you to, but just because the Giants have played great ball thus far and the Eagles have been inconsistent, does not mean that you cannot be a "professional bettor" if you are on the Eagles -3.

[Dbldown11]

oh i completely agree, i myself am not a "professional bettor" and would never say that you can't be one if you take the eagles at -3 haha, I just couldnt lay money on them myself, although they very well could do it.

[nick2060]

It has nothing to do with eli tonight, its all about brandon jacobs and company on the offensive side. Also if philly is down by a field goal or something like that at the end of the first half, it should be noted they often come out much sharper in the second half so a second half play MIGHT be in order

[St. Andrew]

Here's a prediction:

Giants will be up at halftime. The line in the 2H will be something like Phil -6. Then you'll be able to pound the G-Men again at +6 and make twice the bank.

[Kingctb27]

I never really got why people look at what vegas thinks ppl are going to bet on or reverse line movement or what not. In the end, the game is played on the field, not in a sports book. Remember that

[laxdjock]

Eagles are a top 5 team.

Maybe....though probably 6 or 7th. The Eagles are the 3rd best team in their DIVISION.

The NYG win by at least 7, probably 10.

[yisman]

nah, I think the Eagles are better than the Redskins.

NFC East is obviously the strongest division by far.

[Clueless_Norway]

In my system the Eagles ML or Giants +3 is the play cause I got a score prediction on a 23-21 Eagles win, but it gonna be the best Eagles team that's hit the field this year so i'll take my chances on the Eagles -3....

I saw 1 wrote that the Giants is a much better team than the Eagles... Yeah the Giants is better, but not much... The Giants got an avg of 28.2 PF/G and 16.1 PA/G. The Eagles got an avg of 27.5 PF/G and 18.0 PA/G.... That's not a big different and when you also compare the team's they'v faced com. PF/G and PA/G the Eagles have had the hardest schedule.... This is maby the bigest game of the regulare season in mine mind.....

NFC East is the strongest...
Giants, Eagles and Titans is the strongest teams in my opinion...
Eagles is better than the Skins...

[laxdjock]

Here's a prediction:

Giants will be up at halftime. The line in the 2H will be something like Phil -6. Then you'll be able to pound the G-Men again at +6 and make twice the bank.

Completely agree. The Gmen are beastly up front. Their O-line has been punishing the D lines. Their D line controls the line of scrimmage.

[SoonerGreg]

Because Tom Coughlin coached this team last year, Eli Manning QB'd this team last year, and last year the Giants had Kiwanuka and Justin Tuck just like this year.

This is basically the same team that tore through the playoffs last year ON THE ROAD.

I like this quote from Justin Tuck:

“Philly is my favorite road stadium because the fans absolutely hate everybody that moves in an opponent’s jersey,” Tuck said. “I kind of like being hated.”

This is the same team......except that Strahan retired and Osi is hurt. Other than that, they are the exact same. They also looked great in Cleveland a couple of weeks ago too.

[St. Andrew]

This is the same team......except that Strahan retired and Osi is hurt. Other than that, they are the exact same. They also looked great in Cleveland a couple of weeks ago too.

Okay. Fade the Giants. Do what you want partner.

[Ivan77]

Obama just called me and said he went big on the giants and the over and he said the refs will make sure of it

[Patrick McIrish]

If you call yourself a professional bettor, how could you take Eagles -3

You're right, the pro's (that like Philly) got in at 2.5/-120 or better instead of 3.

[Clueless_Norway]

Fly Eagles Fly, On The Road To Victory....!!!
Hit E'm High, Hit E'm Low...!!!
Score a TD 1,2,3....!!!!
Fly Eagles Fly, On The Road To Victory...!!

Hope this continue... Got a bad feeling tho as it's to good to be true...

[St. Andrew]

Plaxico and Jacobs. Shut one down, the other will get you.

[St. Andrew]

The Giants go as he goes. Their brilliant run at the end of last season and the beginning of this season was due to the fact that he was managing the game and taking care of the football. The Eagles of 2008 are not the Eagles of 2007. They are getting after the QB and creating turnovers. Over the last couple of weeks, I have seen flashes of the old Eli. Although the numbers do not show turnovers, he has been nonchalant with his throws and how he handles the football in the pocket. It is just my personal opinion that it is just a matter of time before he returns to his old, but true form. As far as the whole "first two seasons" remark, this is his 5th season and prior to this season, he has nearly a 1:1 career TD to INT Ratio. You do not have to agree with anything I said and I do not expect you to, but just because the Giants have played great ball thus far and the Eagles have been inconsistent, does not mean that you cannot be a "professional bettor" if you are on the Eagles -3.

Eli looked horrible on that TD pass into tight coverage.

[Clueless_Norway]

He got a point about that the Eagles D have started to produce turnovers tho... Last year that was a big problem for them..

[St. Andrew]

Eli looked horrible again on that TD pass into triple coverage.

[St. Andrew]

Here's a prediction:

Giants will be up at halftime. The line in the 2H will be something like Phil -6. Then you'll be able to pound the G-Men again at +6 and make twice the bank.

Can't wait for the 2H line.

[laxdjock]

Ditto St. Andrews.....the GMen are having their way in yardage, and i think it continues. Those 2 PHI TDs are off of TO's and short fields...if they buckle it down, they should be fine.

[St. Andrew]

Ditto St. Andrews.....the GMen are having their way in yardage, and i think it continues. Those 2 PHI TDs are off of TO's and short fields...if they buckle it down, they should be fine.

Did you hit the +3?

[laxdjock]

I took +0.5 (-130...ouch!) 2H for 1 unit

I already had 6 units down on the ML.

[St. Andrew]

I got Giants +3 but it cost me -135

[ocho cinco]

Anytime you get points on the giants, you take it.

[St. Andrew]

For the game I got Giants +3 (-115) but in 2H I got them +3 (-135). Giants were expensive today.

[Dbldown11]

never expenisive if it's the right side

[laxdjock]

They were expensive indeed. I paid -135 and -140 on UF and Mizz 1Q plays....but they have been cash money for me.

[St. Andrew]

never expenisive if it's the right side

Dbldown, you were right on the N. Ilinois play. Who knew that Ball State would play that well or that N Ill would play that bad?

[St. Andrew]

key players to the eagles D and O are healthy, something they haven't had all year, especially in their early losses...Manning has shit #'s on the road this year...the line is correct

Do you still think the line was correct?

[Dbldown11]

yeah they played horribly.....that was pathetic. Everything pointed to them as the play but oh well

[yisman]

that was one messed up game.

I thought the Eagles would win, but they got outplayed.

I still think the line made sense, although yes, it could've been pick'em

[VegasDave]

Congrats Giants backers