Sonny,Bean,Buck and Ayo's Hoops thread

**ATLIEN6** · 03-06-16, 06:20 PM

I got wilmington at -2, i always buy the .5, cant tell you how much money ive lost over those half points

**sandman624** · 03-06-16, 09:04 PM

He's done it again folks!!!! Much appreciated

**SWATINYC** · 03-06-16, 10:14 PM

fire ayo. thank you.

**Joe Sharp** · 03-07-16, 07:22 AM

Ayo... don't take this the wrong way but I love you. LOL.

Ticket # 3 Ticket
Graded 3/6/2016
Type Parlay
Won $6167.25
Lost
Basketball
#850 Wright State -2 -108 for Game Basketball
#854 Hofstra -123 for Game Basketball
#856 NC Wilmington -2½ -108 for Game Basketball
#880 Indiana U -3 -103 for 1st Half

**CantTouchAyo** · 03-07-16, 08:12 AM

good hit joe!

**Vinnie Paz** · 03-07-16, 09:21 AM

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**Joe Sharp** · 03-07-16, 09:32 AM

Indiana was my own play Vinnie, I added it to Ayo's plays and took a chance.

**Vinnie Paz** · 03-07-16, 09:59 AM

My bad I got confused

**CantTouchAyo** · 03-07-16, 10:19 AM

Toledo -125 2x

**ATLIEN6** · 03-07-16, 10:24 AM

Thanks ayo

**CantTouchAyo** · 03-07-16, 01:10 PM

Savannah St -6 2x

**dozod** · 03-07-16, 05:09 PM

Liking that Savannah St pick! Get em!

**CantTouchAyo** · 03-07-16, 06:25 PM

Hofstra -125 2x

**Joe Sharp** · 03-07-16, 08:21 PM

2nd half worth a shot?

**BigNik** · 03-07-16, 09:18 PM

That last minute in Toledo game couldn't have gone any worse. Up by 2 and 2 turnovers

**mikmik** · 03-07-16, 09:21 PM

Jesus they took the lead and lost it?

**gressyville** · 03-07-16, 09:22 PM

**BigNik** · 03-07-16, 09:28 PM

Come back from 16 points down only to score 3 ponts in the last 2 and a half minutes. Unbelievable

**CantTouchAyo** · 03-07-16, 09:32 PM

0-3 . Back at it tomorrow. March baby

**surgibomb** · 03-07-16, 09:43 PM

hey ayo... much love for all the picks. Wanted to see where you stand on second half betting. IE: I went with toledo 1x. They were down by 16 at the half. The second half line was -5, so i went 3x on it. My reasoning being, i didnt think they would lose by 11, and not play as poorly as they did the second half. It paid off this time, and a couple of other times as well. I never bet to catch up, but with favorites being down so much at the half they always seem to rally back hard even if they don't win the game. what do you think of plays like this?

**Miavia** · 03-07-16, 09:44 PM

That Toledo game hurts man...I had 3 units on that....Them 2 turnovers just killed it man...Thanks for the pick Ayo...Will get them tomorrow...

**iloseagain** · 03-07-16, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by surgibomb

hey ayo... much love for all the picks. Wanted to see where you stand on second half betting. IE: I went with toledo 1x. They were down by 16 at the half. The second half line was -5, so i went 3x on it. My reasoning being, i didnt think they would lose by 11, and not play as poorly as they did the second half. It paid off this time, and a couple of other times as well. I never bet to catch up, but with favorites being down so much at the half they always seem to rally back hard even if they don't win the game. what do you think of plays like this?

i love betting 2h's when a home team is a big fav (13+ point fav) and they are losing at half.. I will take the fav in the 2h every time at home.

**CantTouchAyo** · 03-08-16, 01:20 PM

Montana St -2 2x

**sandman624** · 03-08-16, 05:49 PM

Is -2.5 good or should I buy the half point boss?

**thecutter** · 03-08-16, 06:11 PM

If you bought a half point here you are paying more to push,case and point . lay the 2.5 or take the moneyline

**ATLIEN6** · 03-08-16, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by thecutter

If you bought a half point here you are paying more to push,case and point . lay the 2.5 or take the moneyline

I understand what you mean by saying you don't think its a good idea to pay a little extra juice...just to push. But compared to what?? If you don't buy the half point and end up losing by .5 then you're out all your money. Juice is only juice if you lose bro. Ill take a push all day over a loss. That logic makes no sense

**thecutter** · 03-08-16, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by ATLIEN6

I understand what you mean by saying you don't think its a good idea to pay a little extra juice...just to push. But compared to what?? If you don't buy the half point and end up losing by .5 then you're out all your money. Juice is only juice if you lose bro. Ill take a push all day over a loss. That logic makes no sense

I don't have the time on my hands to look at the % of games that actually come down to the hook but honestly think about it. It might be cool to come off 3 but 2.5 to 2 you're just going to drink more juice when the dog wins outright

**readytowinem** · 03-08-16, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by ATLIEN6

I understand what you mean by saying you don't think its a good idea to pay a little extra juice...just to push. But compared to what?? If you don't buy the half point and end up losing by .5 then you're out all your money. Juice is only juice if you lose bro. Ill take a push all day over a loss. That logic makes no sense

The other issue would be that it seems the ml is way too much. I am seeing -140 which isn't worth it. Personally I would just ride with the -2.5...you don't play for a push you play for a win. Either way he is envisioning a -3 or better if he is wagering on it. Just my 2 cents...

**GT21Megatron** · 03-08-16, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by thecutter

I don't have the time on my hands to look at the % of games that actually come down to the hook but honestly think about it. It might be cool to come off 3 but 2.5 to 2 you're just going to drink more juice when the dog wins outright

When and if is here or there. I will always pay the hook and refuse to lose by the half.....no stinking way. Takes money to make money. That's in anything you do not just this thing you call gambling

**thecutter** · 03-08-16, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by readytowinem

The other issue would be that it seems the ml is way too much. I am seeing -140 which isn't worth it. Personally I would just ride with the -2.5...you don't play for a push you play for a win. Either way he is envisioning a -3 or better if he is wagering on it. Just my 2 cents...

And I more so agree with this guy. Not necessarily good to go moneyline either but at least you're giving yourself the assurance that the team you think will win only has to win.buying small amounts of points in a game where so many points are scored makes no sense to me

**thecutter** · 03-08-16, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by GT21Megatron

When and if is here or there. I will always pay the hook and refuse to lose by the half.....no stinking way. Takes money to make money. That's in anything you do not just this thing you call gambling

I'm not trying to offend anyone's style of betting but I think this is a fair topic to discuss . Yesterday for example the only teams off the top of my head are byu and etsu out of 17 or 18 games on the card imagine buying points everywhere . Juice is juice that's why it exists

**sandman624** · 03-08-16, 06:46 PM

Really got the boys turned up.

**GT21Megatron** · 03-08-16, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by thecutter

I'm not trying to offend anyone's style of betting but I think this is a fair topic to discuss . Yesterday for example the only teams off the top of my head are byu and etsu out of 17 or 18 games on the card imagine buying points everywhere . Juice is juice that's why it exists

And you only pay it when your play loses? Where you going with it? Just trying to understand because it's a numbers game. If you like a number I have no issue with paying to get it there if it loses then it loses. Just because you pay the juice doesn't mean it's a good play or a bad play. The only bad play is the play the loses and trust me sometimes your on the right side and still lose. Happens to us all. I have got burnt by that half way to many times where if I chucked out an extra $20 or $30 it would of saved my play. I sleep better knowing that half isn't gonna F me

**ATLIEN6** · 03-08-16, 07:03 PM

The only thing I'm going to say on this topic is i can not tell you guys how many times i have lost money over half a point. Saying we all bet to win...UHH am i missing something? thats the whole point..to WIN. No shit sherlock. What i am trying to get across to you is a push is better then a loss all day everyday in my book. I had an 8 team parlay set to win me something like 2500-3000....welp guess what. 7 teams hit and the last game i lost by HALF a fukkin point. So ever since then i refuse to have that happen to me. I get it bro if you disagree cool i agree to disagree we all have our own styles of betting. Ive just lost too much money over half a point to ever allow it to happen again.

**ATLIEN6** · 03-08-16, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by GT21Megatron

And you only pay it when your play loses? Where you going with it? Just trying to understand because it's a numbers game. If you like a number I have no issue with paying to get it there if it loses then it loses. Just because you pay the juice doesn't mean it's a good play or a bad play. The only bad play is the play the loses and trust me sometimes your on the right side and still lose. Happens to us all. I have got burnt by that half way to many times where if I chucked out an extra $20 or $30 it would of saved my play. I sleep better knowing that half isn't gonna F me

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