big east hoops, who else thinks they're overrated?

Powderguy · 02-24-10, 06:31 PM

I thought they were good, but my opinion has changed the past couple of weeks drastically.

Chi_archie · 02-24-10, 06:47 PM

they are down a bit this year, but I think they are still pretty evenly matched with the big ten, big 12, acc in best overall conference.

not really fair to compare this year to last year and say they suck all the sudden, as last year the big east overall had one of the best years ever for a conference combined

PittsburghPlayer · 02-24-10, 06:58 PM

I guess I am lucky, I live underneath the Carrier Dome and every year get to see excellent college hoops. No they don`t win every game or cover every number, but still exciting year in year out. Jim Boeheim is an great coach to. Big least? Harsh.

MartinBlank · 02-24-10, 07:34 PM

I don't know---they may be down, but it is still the best conference in college basketball.

Night in, Night out-----tough conference.

The middle of the Big East is still loaded with good teams.

Most of the other conferences are horrible from the middle down.

whatsgood5 · 02-24-10, 07:49 PM

They are certainly good, but not as good as last year or probably even the year before. Still the best conference in the country IMO

LT Profits · 02-24-10, 08:29 PM

I think that Syracuse is a legitimate Final Four threat, but other than that, I agree that Big East is overrated this year.

Also, I do not think Big East is the best conference in the country, I think the Big 12 is.

UNCGQ · 02-24-10, 08:34 PM

As an "ACC guy" I've never been a big defender of the Big East, but if somebody only let me watch the top half of one conference, it'd be the Big East hands down.

LT Profits · 02-24-10, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by UNCGQ

As an "ACC guy" I've never been a big defender of the Big East, but if somebody only let me watch the top half of one conference, it'd be the Big East hands down.

Top of Big East is not as good as Kansas, Texas, Kansas State. Also, Baylor, Missouri and Texas A&M are better than the middle of the Big East.

UNCGQ · 02-24-10, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Top of Big East is not as good as Kansas, Texas, Kansas State. Also, Baylor, Missouri and Texas A&M are better than the middle of the Big East.

Some Big East people might debate that, but that's what makes college basketball great, there's a tournament, and we'll see all of these teams play each other

stealthyburrito · 02-24-10, 09:04 PM

maybe the top isnt as strong as last year but there is certainly more depth than last year. USF, Seton Hall, and St. johns are good teams and can beat the tops in the conf. any night

LT Profits · 02-24-10, 09:54 PM

Actually outside of Syracuse, I am not sure who I would categoriize as a "top" Big East team. It seems to be a conference with one bona fide tourney threat and 10 good but not great teams.

UNCGQ · 02-24-10, 09:56 PM

I would argue that there are no 'great' teams this year.

Anybody could be taken out in the Sweet 16.

suckerforparlays · 02-24-10, 09:58 PM

those are heavy words comparing the 2010 big east to the 2009 big east thats just not fair lol. Last years Big East was just unheard of

THEGREAT30 · 02-24-10, 10:00 PM

badly overrated along with Big Ten, good day

UNCGQ · 02-24-10, 10:02 PM

I wouldn't say unheard of. They had three #1 seeds in the tourney and only one of those made the Final 4.

LT Profits · 02-24-10, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

badly overrated along with Big Ten, good day

Actually, Big Ten is better than I expected this year.

Snowball · 02-24-10, 10:04 PM

Big East teams are mostly younger than in recent years past
it happens.. seniors graduate.

RJ89 · 02-24-10, 10:31 PM

I think this year the Big 12 and ACC are just as good as the Big East.

Crayzee · 02-24-10, 10:34 PM

yep
all except for

your 2010 ncaab champion syracuse orangemen

hoopster42 · 02-25-10, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

they are down a bit this year, but I think they are still pretty evenly matched with the big ten, big 12, acc in best overall conference.

not really fair to compare this year to last year and say they suck all the sudden, as last year the big east overall had one of the best years ever for a conference combined

Arch, not sayin they suck, just that theyre not anywhere near last yr's epic big east yr with such dominant teams at the top

Chi_archie · 02-25-10, 12:25 AM

I took the "big least" quote, as a way of saying they really weren't any good.

yeah you won't find too many conferences that finish the year with 4 teams in the top 6.......

I think the only real threat to win everything this year is Syracuse..... Nova and WVU are elite 8....

TPowell · 02-25-10, 12:27 AM

Louisville last year=Syracuse
UConn last year= Nova
Pitt last year= West Virginia

Big East is just as good as last year IMO. Your an ABSOLUTE fool if you think this conference is overrated. LT, Texas and Kansas State??????? Texas wouldn't even be .500 in the Big East and Kansas State compares pretty well to Villanova to me. Slight edge to K State.

hoopster42 · 02-25-10, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

Louisville last year=Syracuse
UConn last year= Nova
Pitt last year= West Virginia

Big East is just as good as last year IMO. Your an ABSOLUTE fool if you think this conference is overrated. LT, Texas and Kansas State??????? Texas wouldn't even be .500 in the Big East and Kansas State compares pretty well to Villanova to me. Slight edge to K State.

sorry dude but uconn last yr even without jerome after the injury was much better than this nova team, and pitt last yr had an inside gm that was far superior to wva's this season

TPowell · 02-25-10, 12:31 AM

yeah but did Pitt have anywhere NEAR the athletes that WV has? I meant in terms of skill level, not neccesarily how they play and what not. Slightly weaker than 2009 at the top but not by much IMO

hoopster42 · 02-25-10, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

yeah but did Pitt have anywhere NEAR the athletes that WV has? I meant in terms of skill level, not neccesarily how they play and what not. Slightly weaker than 2009 at the top but not by much IMO

i think college hoops in general is down a notch or two which is making some weaker big east teams look pretty good. syracuse was awesome last yr but were outshined by uconn, pitt, and nova. i would take last yr's cuse team over this yr's cuse team in a heartbeat

Yi · 02-25-10, 01:48 AM

I actually think UConn is a dark horse this season. This team is very similar to the team with Caron Butler and a young Okafor. They're coming together now and can have a great Big East Tournament run.

Chi_archie · 02-25-10, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

yeah but did Pitt have anywhere NEAR the athletes that WV has? I meant in terms of skill level, not neccesarily how they play and what not. Slightly weaker than 2009 at the top but not by much IMO

Pitt had 4 players leave from last years team to play pro ball. two successful NBA rookies now in Blair and Young. and two guys playing overseas in fields and Biggs.

plus at least 1 or 2 more guys that were underclassmen playing last year that will play pro ball. So i'm not sure if you have a valid argument there.

they definately had a better inside game like hoopster said, but more importantly they had better chemistry and played better team ball with a plan "defense/rebounding/controlled tempo" ect.

toober89 · 02-25-10, 10:32 AM

they were better to start but now it has evened out

Leonitas · 02-25-10, 10:39 AM

I dont think they are overated as there is just lots more parity between the clubs. I really think the big dance this year should be fantastic with all the teams in the nation who have legitimate shots at the national chp. Seems to me like 10-20 clubs can win it all if they get hot. This is gonna be a great post season guys

Chi_archie · 02-25-10, 11:16 AM

agreed, this should be a great post-season.....

going back to the original question though. I think looking back to pre season and early non conf play, I think the big east did get too much credit.

james4512 · 02-25-10, 11:25 AM

Saying the big 12 is better then the big east is like saying the eastern conference is better than the west. Your all fools when your 8th best team in the conference is uconn which played Kentucky and duke down to the wire and absolutely annihilated Texas it's not even comparable your all morons

TPowell · 02-25-10, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

Pitt had 4 players leave from last years team to play pro ball. two successful NBA rookies now in Blair and Young. and two guys playing overseas in fields and Biggs.

plus at least 1 or 2 more guys that were underclassmen playing last year that will play pro ball. So i'm not sure if you have a valid argument there.

they definately had a better inside game like hoopster said, but more importantly they had better chemistry and played better team ball with a plan "defense/rebounding/controlled tempo" ect.

Ebanks and Kevin Jones= Blair and Young (actually Ebanks will be better than the others)

Archie, anybody can play ball overseas, about everybody on Big East rosters has that chance. I agree Pitt played better team ball but WV has the more talented players. Who on Pitt now will be drafted? Maybe Dante Taylor in a year or 2 but idk who else

hoopster42 · 03-03-10, 02:24 AM

how could i forget that louisville was a #1 seed also, so three #1 seeds from the big east last yr and also nova, wva, and marquette were excellent teams, nova seeded 3 and marquette seeded 6 along w/wva

yea, the big east was WAY better last yr, esp at the top

Chi_archie · 03-15-10, 10:35 AM

time to find out what the Big East is made of this year.

I can see a few first round upsets of big east teams happening quite easily