John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

[stanggt3]

I apologize if I am missing something but I am starting to play the 7/5 system.

However, I don't understand why Miami would not be a bet tonight. I saw that its the 2nd game of their road trip but I thought that would make it a valid B bet and the first play in the 7/5 system.



Thanks in advance!

[Nino7]

I apologize if I am missing something but I am starting to play the 7/5 system.

However, I don't understand why Miami would not be a bet tonight. I saw that its the 2nd game of their road trip but I thought that would make it a valid B bet and the first play in the 7/5 system.




Thanks in advance!

I think it's because the first game of their road trip was on 11/9 which they covered and ended the serie up.Tonight would be the third game of the serie (not the 2nd).Their next serie start on 11/14 vs LAC.

[Wallco99]

I apologize if I am missing something but I am starting to play the 7/5 system.

However, I don't understand why Miami would not be a bet tonight. I saw that its the 2nd game of their road trip but I thought that would make it a valid B bet and the first play in the 7/5 system.



Thanks in advance!

It doesn't even hurt any more!!

[stanggt3]

It doesn't even hurt any more!!

People like you ruin every forum. Sorry, not all of us can dedicate endless hours to reading system strategy.

Dont be a moron. You chose to post, you could have ignored it.

[alexknyc]

People like you ruin every forum. Sorry, not all of us can dedicate endless hours to reading system strategy.

Dont be a moron. You chose to post, you could have ignored it.

If you're going to ask a question that's answerable with 30 seconds of research, expect to get shit for it.

And if all you're looking for is to be spoon-fed, then don't whine about the info you're given.

So, it's simple really, figure out a way to keep up with information or pay someone to do it for you.

Otherwise, expect grief.

[the scab man]

People like you ruin every forum. Sorry, not all of us can dedicate endless hours to reading system strategy.

Dont be a moron. You chose to post, you could have ignored it.

stangg dude ppl like wallco arent ruining this forum, HES POSTING THE PLAYS so hes actually doing the opposite of ruining the forum, and he's "banging his head on the wall" not bcuz ppl dont the strategy to a t but because it just got done being said that if u have a question about a game them PM him steve or limit, dont post in here and clutter the thread

[dlunc3]

hey guys, was miami a play tonight?

[alexknyc]

hey guys, was miami a play tonight?

JM had Miami as a B bet but he's an idiot who doesn't know his own system and sends out wrong bets at least once a week.

[dlunc3]

JM had Miami as a B bet but he's an idiot who doesn't know his own system and sends out wrong bets at least once a week.

i needed to check in.. so just having fun with you guys... im sure it will be asked again within the next 5 minutes anyway

[Wallco99]

People like you ruin every forum. Sorry, not all of us can dedicate endless hours to reading system strategy.

Dont be a moron. You chose to post, you could have ignored it.

You're right. God forbid you read back one page where this question is answered 6 times, but I guess the easy approach is to just pop on and ask a question.

[knugen]

Thx for an easy atlanta win guys

[thelimit0310]

So, having proven the case for 7/5, why do we not now simply make it a "1.4/1" system, thus simplifying staking strategies? The standard betting unit proved the case for your system, but now you can make the target unit one 5th of the comparitive unit. Its only a case of scale, but publishing a system whereby the player bets to win 7 units (B) then 12 units (C) will invite a lot of questions from the noobies. Telling them to bet to win 1 unit then 1.75 units aligns better with the standard concept of betting to win 1 unit. The absolute value of the bettor's unit is, of course, irrelevant to the system.

Thoughts?

Excellent question. I use the term 7/5 on this forum because simplifying is disingenuous to the results and frankly would cost me followers who do not fully understand the method coming in. In dealing with new followers, I would argue that saying 7/5 is actually a simpler explanation than 1.4/1. I believe it does not better align with the concept of betting to win 1 unit because it's not 1 unit in comparison to every other system on the forum, including JM. Only when it is looked at in a self-contained manner is this true, which is no good when posting on a forum where many other systems exist. Also consider the method is just a different take on the JM system. I forget the actual amount but a loss in JM traditional is around -18 units. 7/5 is the best profit to loss ratio where a loss still fits the bill with Traditional. To simplify it down would completely remove its relevance which is important.

My reasoning is that it would cause more issues than it would solve and would cause more confusion which consequently requires more explanation. Like I said while mathematically correct it's disingenuous to whats really taking place.

[sunzal]

People like you ruin every forum. Sorry, not all of us can dedicate endless hours to reading system strategy.

Dont be a moron. You chose to post, you could have ignored it.

you're the moron---you chose to post instead of taking 2 seconds to read the actual system---no ones asking you to do more than literally 2 minutes of work----uhhhh about the time it takes to write your stupid a-- comment---and then you're so oblivious to you're dependency you make fun of the people who take time out of their lives to put this thread together so we can have the picks....unreal

[thelimit0310]

I apologize if I am missing something but I am starting to play the 7/5 system.

However, I don't understand why Miami would not be a bet tonight. I saw that its the 2nd game of their road trip but I thought that would make it a valid B bet and the first play in the 7/5 system.



Thanks in advance!

The 7/5 doesn't play series mid road trip. Miami started the trip they are currently on on 11/9, and won the A bet of that series. Miami will not be a play again during this road trip. It is also not a play in the traditional JM system because of the same reason - they won the A bet on 11/9, the start of their trip.

[Kev the Brit]

Excellent question. I use the term 7/5 on this forum because simplifying is disingenuous to the results and frankly would cost me followers who do not fully understand the method coming in. In dealing with new followers, I would argue that saying 7/5 is actually a simpler explanation than 1.4/1. I believe it does not better align with the concept of betting to win 1 unit because it's not 1 unit in comparison to every other system on the forum, including JM. Only when it is looked at in a self-contained manner is this true, which is no good when posting on a forum where many other systems exist. Also consider the method is just a different take on the JM system. I forget the actual amount but a loss in JM traditional is around -18 units. 7/5 is the best profit to loss ratio where a loss still fits the bill with Traditional. To simplify it down would completely remove its relevance which is important.

My reasoning is that it would cause more issues than it would solve and would cause more confusion which consequently requires more explanation. Like I said while mathematically correct it's disingenuous to whats really taking place.

Thanks for your comprehensive answer. Yes, I agree with you that quoting "7/5" makes sense within this JM thread. However, thanks for recognising my point that in a self-contained environment "7/5" equals "1.4/1".

Keep up the good work and thanks for the "7 units" last night.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2012-13 System to date: 4-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +4.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0


v1 Plays
(A) 4-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
(D) 0-0


Games for (11/13/12):
#5 Portland (+2½) @ Sacramento (A) (10:05 pm EST)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. System rules and backtest can be found in post #226.

[casdio]

Walco99: Weren't the Trailblazers a bet for yesterday? They lost against Dallas, LA Clippers and San Antonio: covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403993.html

I only noticed this now, that's why I didn't say anything yesterday :|

Now what? Are we giong to play them as a B bet tonight?

[Wallco99]

Walco99: Weren't the Trailblazers a bet for yesterday? They lost against Dallas, LA Clippers and San Antonio: covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403993.html

I only noticed this now, that's why I didn't say anything yesterday :|

Now what? Are we giong to play them as a B bet tonight?

NO. The 11/10 game against San Antonio(-3) was a push 112-109. Yesterday was the third loss. Today is the (A) bet as I have stated. We don't use covers.com. If there are questions or discrepancies about plays, please PM me in the future to add no further confusion to this thread. This is why I suggested it the other day, but was insulted for it by another member.

[Nino7]

if we ask questions via PMs you'll have to answer the same question many times

[Wallco99]

if we ask questions via PMs you'll have to answer the same question many times

I am not talking about ALL questions, I am referring to the "Shouldn't this be a play", or "Shouldn't that be a play" questions. I am willing to take one for the team. It is worth it to avoid confusion. For example, If someone logs in here in a few hours, and scrolls through the posts, they may see one of two posts. First, my post, which states today is an (A) bet. Second, the other post, which states today's game should be a (B) bet. With my prior knowledge of how this thread works, that person will stop everything he is doing and type, "Is today an (A) bet or a (B) bet?", instead of reading one more post where I explained it. THEN, an all out war of people calling each other "stupid", and "lazy" will break out, and before you know it, my original post is 4 pages back and nobody can find the plays. I think one PM about a questionable play could eliminate 27 unnecessary posts, and keep several people friends who would otherwise be engaged in a death match. Now if only the U.S. foriegn policy was this simple! Perhaps Barack Obama should resort to the PM to solve his world issues. Let this thread be an example for the world!!!!!!!!

[Mrscofield25]

Yeah but the thing is thelimit0310 used to post earlyer so i was suspecting Atlanta was not a play and the limit0310 might not post at all tonight so I prefered to make sure and asked about it before refreshing the thread 300 times for 2 hours..Otherwise thanks for your interest and for telling me what I have or not to do but I don't really care about you and what you think and if you are not willing to answer me then you have to let an other eventual follower doing it and shut the f.uck up...It's even simpler.

Have you asked thelimit if he might was busy? Maybe thelimit has other things to do irl besides posting plays in a public forum. Just like Stevex and Wallco. If you have the time to use 2 hours and refreshing the page 300 times, then I'm almost sure you also had the time to read the page from the start. It would take less than 2 hours.

I'm not saying that I'm not willing to help you. But your question have been answered in the last 3-4 pages were this topic already have been discussed. So if you had read these pages you would have seen that the option maybe had been to send thelimit a PM and asked him.

Yeah maybe I just should shu t the f.uck up. I can't even read or write English. I don't understand anything of this system. I don't even know how to place a bet or know what +12,5 means. But that doesn't make me stupid. Because as I can see, there are other people in this thread who definitely can't read either. But they are still talking and asking questions who has been answered several times. There is 546 posts in this thread on 16 pages... How long will it take to read these pages and find the rules for the different systems? Not long if you are able to read.

But for now on, I will just keep my mouth shut.

[Wallco99]

The JM “System Strategy” Leader Board<O</O
<O</O
These are the five different strategies that are currently being played by several of us. Out of curiosity, I totaled them up to see how each was doing, figured I might has well share it. These are Chase results, labby totals are not included. They are in order of most productive at the present time, but this by no means will necessarily be the order of success at season’s end.<O</O
<O</O
- 3/3 (B,C – buy 3 points): (+18.00 units)
<O</O- Traditional JM (A,B,C - buy 3 points): (+14.00 units)<O</O
- 1-3-5 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+11.72 units)<O</O
- 7/5 (B,C – no point buy): (+11.33 units)<O</O
- Traditional JM -110 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+4.74 units)<O</O

[Bugs Bunny]

The JM “System Strategy” Leader Board

These are the five different strategies that are currently being played by several of us. Out of curiosity, I totaled them up to see how each was doing, figured I might has well share it. These are Chase results, labby totals are not included. They are in order of most productive at the present time, but this by no means will necessarily be the order of success at season’s end.

- 3/3 (B,C – buy 3 points): (+18.00 units)
- Traditional JM (A,B,C - buy 3 points): (+14.00 units)
- 1-3-5 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+11.72 units)
- 7/5 (B,C – no point buy): (+11.33 units)
- Traditional JM -110 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+4.74 units)

appreciate your work wallco
keep this going

[MARCUS]

appreciate your work wallco
keep this going

...give these guy's doing all the work some point$..they cost u nothing..u don't even need 2 ask mom!

[Kev the Brit]

The JM “System Strategy” Leader Board<o</o
<oThese are the five different strategies that are currently being played by several of us. Out of curiosity, I totaled them up to see how each was doing, figured I might has well share it. These are Chase results, labby totals are not included. They are in order of most productive at the present time, but this by no means will necessarily be the order of success at season’s end.<o</o
<o- 3/3 (B,C – buy 3 points): (+18.00 units)
<o</o- Traditional JM (A,B,C - buy 3 points): (+14.00 units)<o</o
- 1-3-5 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+11.72 units)<o</o
- 7/5 (B,C – no point buy): (+11.33 units)<o</o
- Traditional JM -110 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+4.74 units)<o</o

</o</o<o<oAlthough I'm playing 7/5 this year, I'm looking at the 3/3 which I have played the last 2 years and I can't help thinking I'm on the wrong track. But, its early days and I trust thelimit's analysis...</o</o<o<o</o</o

[thelimit0310]

First thought: All of the methods are performing very well considering how early we are into the season, less than 2 weeks, and considering some methods had a loss already.

[thelimit0310]

Although I'm playing 7/5 this year, I'm looking at the 3/3 which I have played the last 2 years and I can't help thinking I'm on the wrong track. But, its early days and I trust thelimit's analysis...

Well lets remember the 3/3 and JM traditional didn't suffer the Utah loss. Think about it Kev, if Utah won their C bet the 7/5 would be +38 units right now. We will take the throne again don't worry

[thelimit0310]

7/5 Plays NOV 12

Atlanta +3 vs Portland - Bet 1

7/5 Plays NOV 13

No Plays

Results:
Bet 1: 4-2
Bet 2: 1-1
Utah 11/2

[Conley1914]

Did any body else get his email about his system for the NBA

[Wallco99]

appreciate your work wallco
keep this going

I will try to update it once a week. Let's say, Monday mornings.

[smggolfer]

Yes, something about a new system

[stevex]

JM Traditional System

11/13/2012

V1

Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 4-0
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 4-0
Current series pending: 0

V2

Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 4-0
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 4-0
Current series pending: 1

1. New York Knicks A Bet -7 @ Orlando Magic (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
New York Knicks A Bet ML -290 @ Orlando Magic

V3

Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 3-1
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 4-0
Current series pending: 0

[J.M. Disciple]

What Basketball systems are you all following?

JM road system, Wallco's chase110, Stiffler's, any more?

Anyone know what other systems executioner was stealing from?

[stanggt3]

The 7/5 doesn't play series mid road trip. Miami started the trip they are currently on on 11/9, and won the A bet of that series. Miami will not be a play again during this road trip. It is also not a play in the traditional JM system because of the same reason - they won the A bet on 11/9, the start of their trip.

Thanks man, I understood the rest of the system and read through most of this thread but did not understand this since it didn't match up with the spreadsheet that was posted earlier.

I should be hung or tarred and feathered for missing a post about why this wasn't a play.

[Wallco99]

I wouldn't waste the tar!