Letting you know what's up w/ UFC 149

Crassus · 07-19-12, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I think Jordan would beat both those guys. Hunt's only chance would be to catch him. They would both be outskilled. You guys aren't giving Shawn Jordan the respect he deserves, just like you weren't giving Lavar Johnson his respect when he was fighting Joey Beltran. Everybody here was on Beltran and I was the only one who took Lavar at +250. It was crazy, I often think I'm the only one here who sees the obvious, Siver over Nunes is another example.

Shawn Jordan should be able to win this fight. If he loses, it will be due to a brain fart. I even expect his cardio to be better than it's been in the past.

Well that's really Hunt's only chance in any fight isn't it?

I dunno man, I watched the Oli Thompson Shawn Jordan fight and was really unimpressed with him. He's freakishly athletic but I just can't see him beating Kongo in the stand-up.

Does Jordan have good wrestling or something I didn't see? I'm just not seeing him beat Kongo let alone Mark Hunt. Any fights I should look at that you were particularly impressed by?

gabe · 07-19-12, 12:38 PM

8 Team - Parlay

Ticket #:	59683395
Accepted:	07/19/12 1:37 PM (EST)
Risk:	$36.00
Win:	$910.59
Outcome:	Pending

#90032 - Hector Lombard ML (-400)

Header:	Tim Boetsch (15-4-0) vs Hector Lombard (31-2-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90092 - Brian Ebersole ML (-400)

Header:	James Head (8-2-0) vs Brian Ebersole (50-14-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90212 - Ryan Jimmo ML (-180)

Header:	Anthony Perosh (13-6-0) vs Ryan Jimmo (16-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90272 - Daniel Pineda ML (-240)

Header:	Antonio Carvalho (13-5-0) vs Daniel Pineda (17-8-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89301 - Karl Amoussou ML (+125)

Header:	Karl Amoussou (15-4-2) vs Bryan Baker (18-3-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 9:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89322 - Attila Vegh ML (-110)

Header:	Emanuel Newton (18-6-1) vs Attila Vegh (26-4-2)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89332 - Travis Wiuff ML (-300)

Header:	Tim Carpenter (9-1-0) vs Travis Wiuff (67-14-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:15 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89342 - Marius Zaromskis ML (-300)

Header:	Waachiim Spiritwolf (9-10-1) vs Marius Zaromskis (17-6-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:15 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

$36.00

$910.59

gabe · 07-19-12, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

Well that's really Hunt's only chance in any fight isn't it?

I dunno man, I watched the Oli Thompson Shawn Jordan fight and was really unimpressed with him. He's freakishly athletic but I just can't see him beating Kongo in the stand-up.

Does Jordan have good wrestling or something I didn't see? I'm just not seeing him beat Kongo let alone Mark Hunt. Any fights I should look at that you were particularly impressed by?

You weren't impressed by his fight vs Oli, I was. I was also impressed with how easily he beat Lavar Johnson. His wrestling looked good in that fight.

I expect this guy to make major improvements between every fight, especially now that he's with Greg Jackson's MMA.

gabe · 07-19-12, 12:51 PM

8 Team - Parlay

Ticket #:	59683522
Accepted:	07/19/12 1:46 PM (EST)
Risk:	$27.00
Win:	$1,001.06
Outcome:	Pending

#90212 - Ryan Jimmo ML (-180)

Header:	Anthony Perosh (13-6-0) vs Ryan Jimmo (16-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90241 - Bryan Caraway ML (-220)

Header:	Bryan Caraway (16-5-0) vs Mitch Gagnon (8-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90272 - Daniel Pineda ML (-240)

Header:	Antonio Carvalho (13-5-0) vs Daniel Pineda (17-8-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90302 - Anton Kuivanen ML (-180)

Header:	Mitch Clarke (9-1-0) vs Anton Kuivanen (16-5-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89301 - Karl Amoussou ML (+125)

Header:	Karl Amoussou (15-4-2) vs Bryan Baker (18-3-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 9:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89322 - Attila Vegh ML (-110)

Header:	Emanuel Newton (18-6-1) vs Attila Vegh (26-4-2)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89332 - Travis Wiuff ML (-300)

Header:	Tim Carpenter (9-1-0) vs Travis Wiuff (67-14-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:15 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89342 - Marius Zaromskis ML (-300)

Header:	Waachiim Spiritwolf (9-10-1) vs Marius Zaromskis (17-6-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:15 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

$27.00

$1,001.06

gabe · 07-19-12, 12:54 PM

6 Team - Parlay

Ticket #:	59683660
Accepted:	07/19/12 1:54 PM (EST)
Risk:	$79.00
Win:	$1,020.72
Outcome:	Pending

#90032 - Hector Lombard ML (-400)

Header:	Tim Boetsch (15-4-0) vs Hector Lombard (31-2-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90092 - Brian Ebersole ML (-400)

Header:	James Head (8-2-0) vs Brian Ebersole (50-14-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90212 - Ryan Jimmo ML (-180)

Header:	Anthony Perosh (13-6-0) vs Ryan Jimmo (16-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89301 - Karl Amoussou ML (+125)

Header:	Karl Amoussou (15-4-2) vs Bryan Baker (18-3-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 9:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89322 - Attila Vegh ML (-110)

Header:	Emanuel Newton (18-6-1) vs Attila Vegh (26-4-2)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89342 - Marius Zaromskis ML (-300)

Header:	Waachiim Spiritwolf (9-10-1) vs Marius Zaromskis (17-6-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:15 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

$79.00

$1,020.72

v1y · 07-19-12, 12:59 PM

zaromskis is clearly overvalued based on their first fight.

PunisherIND · 07-19-12, 12:59 PM

gabe, do you really see value in zaromskis at -300?? the last fight was very close man. or are you buying into my suggestion that spiritwolf is cursed?

gabe · 07-19-12, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

gabe, do you really see value in zaromskis at -300?? the last fight was very close man. or are you buying into my suggestion that spiritwolf is cursed?

no i don't, but i think he will win, so i've got him in my parlays.

you guys also didn't agree with me taking travis wiuff last time around.

small bets, big payouts. low risk. good plays, IMO.

PunisherIND · 07-19-12, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by gabe

no i don't, but i think he will win, so i've got him in my parlays.

you guys also didn't agree with me taking travis wiuff last time around.

small bets, big payouts. low risk. good plays, IMO.

you were right about wiuff. i didnt like that line, but he was clearly worth it in retrospect. you were also right about newton in that same event. ill give u credit for those.

but this situation is a little different since they fought recently so we should have a good idea of how they will match up.

anyway, just dont go crazy and throw him in every parlay. lol.

getlucky2win · 07-19-12, 01:08 PM

getem gabe. hope u kill it then talk mad sht 2 every1 dissin u. i got pineda lombard jordan amousso vegh parlay in honor of u cousin.

gabe · 07-19-12, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by getlucky2win

getem gabe. hope u kill it then talk mad sht 2 every1 dissin u. i got pineda lombard jordan amousso vegh parlay in honor of u cousin.

I went 15-2 last week. (UFC + Strikeforce) No one has been dissin' me.

That parlay sounds good... I listened to Luca Fury's podcast and they've got me thinking twice on going 5/5 on Pineda and Jordan... but I'm sticking with 'em. I won't be playing Pineda straight, though. So maybe I shouldn't have made him a 5/5 due to the fact that I think the juice is too high... Good for parlays, though.

gabe · 07-19-12, 01:22 PM

6 Team - Parlay

Ticket #:	59684279
Accepted:	07/19/12 2:22 PM (EST)
Risk:	$30.00
Win:	$425.58
Outcome:	Pending

#90032 - Hector Lombard ML (-400)

Header:	Tim Boetsch (15-4-0) vs Hector Lombard (31-2-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90092 - Brian Ebersole ML (-400)

Header:	James Head (8-2-0) vs Brian Ebersole (50-14-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90212 - Ryan Jimmo ML (-180)

Header:	Anthony Perosh (13-6-0) vs Ryan Jimmo (16-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90241 - Bryan Caraway ML (-220)

Header:	Bryan Caraway (16-5-0) vs Mitch Gagnon (8-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89301 - Karl Amoussou ML (+125)

Header:	Karl Amoussou (15-4-2) vs Bryan Baker (18-3-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 9:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89322 - Attila Vegh ML (-110)

Header:	Emanuel Newton (18-6-1) vs Attila Vegh (26-4-2)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

$30.00

$425.58

DeFactoCrippler · 07-19-12, 01:25 PM

Can we just sticky the posts in this thread that elucidate the simple mathematical truths discussed. Because that Fosho guy has obviously crawled back in his hole and this whole process will just repeat itself next week, like it did last week.

No one is saying you have to abide by these truths and implement them in your handicapping, but arguing against them is rather futile. And really, it only ends up in the "fool" not realizing he is the fool, because that is the role of the fool. But it just slightly grating when that "fool" starts to admonish the NUMEROUS people who have tried to explain his foolishness.

"I'm not the fool, you're all the fools, every one of you. Jealous people just can't understand handicapping genius when you see it! Keep on making your +EV sucker plays losers!"

gabe · 07-19-12, 01:25 PM

8 Team - Parlay

Ticket #:	59684295
Accepted:	07/19/12 2:25 PM (EST)
Risk:	$30.00
Win:	$1,301.37
Outcome:	Pending

#90032 - Hector Lombard ML (-400)

Header:	Tim Boetsch (15-4-0) vs Hector Lombard (31-2-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90062 - Shawn Jordan ML (-140)

Header:	Cheick Kongo (17-7-2) vs Shawn Jordan (13-3-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:15 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90092 - Brian Ebersole ML (-400)

Header:	James Head (8-2-0) vs Brian Ebersole (50-14-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90151 - Nick Ring ML (-140)

Header:	Nick Ring (12-1-0) vs Court McGee (14-2-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90212 - Ryan Jimmo ML (-170)

Header:	Anthony Perosh (13-6-0) vs Ryan Jimmo (16-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90272 - Daniel Pineda ML (-240)

Header:	Antonio Carvalho (13-5-0) vs Daniel Pineda (17-8-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89301 - Karl Amoussou ML (+125)

Header:	Karl Amoussou (15-4-2) vs Bryan Baker (18-3-0)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 9:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89322 - Attila Vegh ML (-110)

Header:	Emanuel Newton (18-6-1) vs Attila Vegh (26-4-2)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

$30.00

$1,301.37

AdamB · 07-19-12, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

What the f__k? Wiedman is obviously the number one contender, and is far superior to Lombard in all areas. I would even favor Weidman (slightly) over Anderson Silva due to his BJJ/College Wrestling combo that nobody else possesses. I'd prob. cap Weidman at -120/-140 over Anderson, although the line will favor Anderson no doubt, and I will pound Weidman. Weidman is a nightmare match up for Anderson, he is Chael, but with far greater striking and far greater BJJ. Chael has no BJJ and very little standup to speak of. Look at that pathetic spinning back fist he tried to land on Silva, and then look at Weidman's devastating elbow to Munoz's grill that dropped him.

I don't see how you can compare the two at all. The key factor to Sonnen doing so well against Silva was really not down solely to his wrestling pedigree - it was the fact that he had absolutely no fear of him (till the 2nd round in their 2nd fight arguably, ha). Chael bumrushed him. He gave him no time to get into his rhythm, he didn't stand there and try and strike for a little while then go for a double leg - he threw a combo, rolled his head or moved it off-center and then shot on him. He then relentlessly repeated that each and every round. Chael does this every fight. Weidman does not. Chael is also a southpaw while Weidman is orthodox.

I don't understand when people just take two fighters, where one is more skilled in certain areas and say "X is Y with better Z!". Every fighter is completely different and there are a crazy amount of variables to any match-up.

EDIT: Also, good luck with the parlays gabe. I never seem to get round to watching Bellator anymore so I'm pretty clueless on all of those - I did see the Spiritwolf / Zaromskis fight though and would agree in saying Zaromskis should win that fight the majority of the time.

gabe · 07-19-12, 03:48 PM

Think I'm downgrading my play on Nick Ring to a 4/5 -- Turns out McGee was sick during his fight vs Philipou. I was hoping he wouldn't be very motivated, but he is. Might have to wait til weigh-ins to be sure...

TheCalculator · 07-19-12, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Think I'm downgrading my play on Nick Ring to a 4/5 -- Turns out McGee was sick during his fight vs Philipou. I was hoping he wouldn't be very motivated, but he is. Might have to wait til weigh-ins to be sure...

In his recent interviews -- McGee also mentioned that he was NOT focused on fighting for awhile. He was "lost" in the business side of MMA. And now he's found his passion again for fighting.

You might want to consider downgrading to 3/5 or no play.

Vaughany · 07-19-12, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Think I'm downgrading my play on Nick Ring to a 4/5 -- Turns out McGee was sick during his fight vs Philipou. I was hoping he wouldn't be very motivated, but he is. Might have to wait til weigh-ins to be sure...

haha after all we went through the other day

gabe · 07-19-12, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

haha after all we went through the other day

I was hoping he wouldn't be focused, but I think he is. I think Ring will manage to win 2 rounds, if not 3. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

gabe · 07-19-12, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

In his recent interviews -- McGee also mentioned that he was NOT focused on fighting for awhile. He was "lost" in the business side of MMA. And now he's found his passion again for fighting.

You might want to consider downgrading to 3/5 or no play.

Yeah, I saw him say that in an interview. 4/5 is right, but gonna need to see weigh-ins to be sure exactly how big I'm willing to go

gabe · 07-19-12, 04:26 PM

5 Team - Parlay

Ticket #:	59686335
Accepted:	07/19/12 5:26 PM (EST)
Risk:	$39.00
Win:	$214.82
Outcome:	Pending

#90032 - Hector Lombard ML (-400)

Header:	Tim Boetsch (15-4-0) vs Hector Lombard (31-2-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90092 - Brian Ebersole ML (-400)

Header:	James Head (8-2-0) vs Brian Ebersole (50-14-1)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 10:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90241 - Bryan Caraway ML (-220)

Header:	Bryan Caraway (16-5-0) vs Mitch Gagnon (8-1-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#90302 - Anton Kuivanen ML (-200)

Header:	Mitch Clarke (9-1-0) vs Anton Kuivanen (16-5-0)
Sport:	UFC
Label:	UFC 149
Scheduled :	07/21/12 8:00 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

#89322 - Attila Vegh ML (-110)

Header:	Emanuel Newton (18-6-1) vs Attila Vegh (26-4-2)
Sport:	MMA - Bellator
Label:	Bellator 72
Scheduled :	07/20/12 8:45 PM (EST)
Outcome:	Pending

$39.00

$214.82

gabe · 07-19-12, 04:47 PM

btw- i was kinda feeling newton, but decided to tail jesus on vegh, since it's the only play he likes on the card.

gabe · 07-19-12, 04:49 PM

also tailing bjpenn85 on kuivanen. sounds like v is confident in him, too. i really liked him before he got to the ufc, but he disappointed me... giving him a second chance.

DublinMeUp · 07-19-12, 05:36 PM

Whats with all the mma talk!

And posting picks.. you'd swear this was some kind of mma handicapping forum or something =)

GL with the picks gabe

Bradbatross · 07-19-12, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

What the f__k? Wiedman is obviously the number one contender, and is far superior to Lombard in all areas. I would even favor Weidman (slightly) over Anderson Silva due to his BJJ/College Wrestling combo that nobody else possesses. I'd prob. cap Weidman at -120/-140 over Anderson, although the line will favor Anderson no doubt, and I will pound Weidman. Weidman is a nightmare match up for Anderson, he is Chael, but with far greater striking and far greater BJJ. Chael has no BJJ and very little standup to speak of. Look at that pathetic spinning back fist he tried to land on Silva, and then look at Weidman's devastating elbow to Munoz's grill that dropped him.

I guess we'll have to see what happens.

spargament · 07-19-12, 05:53 PM

so the only reason you're playing veigh is jesus?

fosho14 · 07-19-12, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

You're proving more and more you don't understand anything.

Not passing on +EV bets is something any competent gambler would tell you to do. Kelly Criterion be damned.

Dude, I'm not arguing with you about any of that. I have expressed acknowledgement several times that professional gamblers will not advise passing any edge or any +EV. I'm not a professional gambler, and am doing this more as a hobby then a time-invested endeavor. I have a strong difference of opinion with gabe on the Jordan fight, that's all. I have no clue how anyone could lay money on Jordan, that's insane. Hope nobody tails that play, because they will get burned.

In summary:

If passing on +105 lines when I think the fight could easily go either way makes me a stupid child, then you win I guess I'm stupid. If I prefer to be selective and shrewd in choosing plays that jump out to me as having outstanding value in relation to their respective likelihood of probability then I guess I'm the stupidest person on this forum. I'm really not losing too much sleep over what a bunch of anonymous deadbeats and one pedophile in DFC mashing away on a keyboard thinks of me.

I am fortunate to be financially assisted with much of my student loans and residence and this is essentially entertainment money. Please process the simple fact that I'm not telling, nor advising anyone to adopt any particular method or formula and never was, you have an interesting imagination though. I'm also not disagreeing with you about anything. I can see you like to start meaningless manufactured drawn-out arguments in your spare time for fun though, that's pretty cool.

DeFactoCrippler · 07-19-12, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Dude, I'm not arguing with you about any of that. I have expressed acknowledgement several times that professional gamblers will not advise passing any edge or any +EV.

It's not "professional" gamblers, it's any gambler looking to win.

I'm not a professional gambler, and am doing this more as a hobby then a time-invested endeavor.

Geez, you don't say.

I have a strong difference of opinion with gabe on the Jordan fight, that's all. I have no clue how anyone could lay money on Jordan, that's insane. Hope nobody tails that play, because they will get burned.

You "have no clue" about a lot of things.

In summary:

If passing on +105 lines when I think the fight could easily go either way makes me a stupid child, then you win I guess I'm stupid.

Ok, nice you have at least verbally admitted you are stupid. This is the first step. The second step is actually realizing you ARE stupid and spot posting all together.

If I prefer to be selective and shrewd in choosing plays that jump out to me as having outstanding value in relation to their respective likelihood of probability

Maybe if you were so "selective and shrewd" then would wouldn't have brought up irrelevant arguments like "risk of ruin" and "gamblers ruin" and then run away and pretend like you never brought them up because doing so only made you look MORE ignorant, if that is even a possibility.

then I guess I'm the stupidest person on this forum. I'm really not losing too much sleep over what a bunch of anonymous deadbeats and one pedophile in DFC mashing away on a keyboard thinks of me.

You obviously do care what people think because you keep coming back to a place where you are not respected at all, and are forced to spend the your time here defending your own truly idiotic actions. People mock you because they don't value your posts. They don't value your posts because you are a complete fool.

To clear up for other members, not knowing the fundamentals of handicapping does not make one "stupid". But acting like you know while understanding nothing, does. Not to mention ignorant. Acting petulant and insulting when people try and explain why you ARE wrong is what makes you a child.

I really don't see how someone could value you here when the items of value are

1. Mathematical knowledge (you have none)

2. A non biased mind. You have to be the most biased person on here, it's actually a little pathetic.

I am fortunate to be financially assisted with much of my student loans and residence and this is essentially entertainment money. Please process the simple fact that I'm not telling, nor advising anyone to adopt any particular method or formula and never was, you have an interesting imagination though.

Actually you did, in plain english. Dublin quoted the posts. I can quote more if you like. Let me ask, if you weren't going around advising people of your foolish methods why would everyone know about them?

I'm also not disagreeing with you about anything. I can see you like to start meaningless manufactured drawn-out arguments in your spare time for fun though, that's pretty cool.

Everyone thought you stopped posting. nobody even cared. Then you made you triumphant return by bashing gabe and saying "+115 on a coinflip aint shit". I really don't think people are doing this to try and "educate" you as much as "humiliate" you.

And if you don't care what people think about you, then simply go away. Why would you want to be amongst people who think of you as someone with the brainpower and emotions of a child? Because you want to help them make money?

gabe · 07-19-12, 08:44 PM

"I didn't have that desire to fight," McGee today told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "If you've ever been in that situation, you can't really explain it until you feel it. You're supposed to go out and perform in front of 20,000 people, and you don't feel like fighting."

See? I was right. He didn't look hungry for a win against Philipou. I was hoping that same fighter would show up against Ring, but looks like that's not happening...

gabe · 07-19-12, 09:59 PM

7 Team - Parlay
#902 - Washington Nationals ML (-150)
#905 - San Francisco Giants +1½ (-190)
#914 - Arizona Diamondbacks ML (-200)
#90032 - Hector Lombard ML (-400)
#90092 - Brian Ebersole ML (-400)
#90212 - Ryan Jimmo ML (-170)
#90241 - Bryan Caraway ML (-220)

$29.00

$370.43

gabe · 07-19-12, 10:00 PM

really loving jimmo and caraway

gabe · 07-19-12, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by DublinMeUp

Whats with all the mma talk!

And posting picks.. you'd swear this was some kind of mma handicapping forum or something =)

GL with the picks gabe

i'll buy you another round after i make some $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hannibal · 07-20-12, 12:01 AM

like clements??
riddle is bad

Vaughany · 07-20-12, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by fosho14

Dude, I'm not arguing with you about any of that. I have expressed acknowledgement several times that professional gamblers will not advise passing any edge or any +EV. I'm not a professional gambler, and am doing this more as a hobby then a time-invested endeavor. I have a strong difference of opinion with gabe on the Jordan fight, that's all. I have no clue how anyone could lay money on Jordan, that's insane. Hope nobody tails that play, because they will get burned.

In summary:

If passing on +105 lines when I think the fight could easily go either way makes me a stupid child, then you win I guess I'm stupid. If I prefer to be selective and shrewd in choosing plays that jump out to me as having outstanding value in relation to their respective likelihood of probability then I guess I'm the stupidest person on this forum. I'm really not losing too much sleep over what a bunch of anonymous deadbeats and one pedophile in DFC mashing away on a keyboard thinks of me.

I am fortunate to be financially assisted with much of my student loans and residence and this is essentially entertainment money. Please process the simple fact that I'm not telling, nor advising anyone to adopt any particular method or formula and never was, you have an interesting imagination though. I'm also not disagreeing with you about anything. I can see you like to start meaningless manufactured drawn-out arguments in your spare time for fun though, that's pretty cool.

See this is the problem. You said that anybody playing Jordan is insane and if they tail Gabe will get burned. Then one line later u say that the fight could easily go either way. So you've gone from saying that playin Jordan is insane to then saying it's a 50/50 fight

Again, whether student or professional gambler or professional bum bandit, the fact that your not betting on Kongo at +105 to +120 range shows that you cant really think that "anybody who tails Gabe on Jordan will get burned." If you were so sure on this then you would be playing Kongo.

bogbat · 07-20-12, 03:06 AM

lol why even bother Vaughany. The guy obvious doesn't understand sound logic in any way, shape, or form.