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  • NunyaBidness
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-26-09
    • 9345

    #176
    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
    4k to 1k line that I can prove it
    or we bet two bouncy castles each
    If I'm getting even money on the bouncy castles, I'm pretty sure I can get a pretty sweet arb in there somewhere. Vaughany?

    Which actually reminds me of this fascinating post I read the other day:
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    • Beelzebubzy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-06-11
      • 6995

      #177
      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
      If I'm getting even money on the bouncy castles, I'm pretty sure I can get a pretty sweet arb in there somewhere. Vaughany?

      Which actually reminds me of this fascinating post I read the other day:
      http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/econo...ess-2-economy/
      Haha horrible typing by me too many BHO ( jack coke and green tea)
      Not reading this world of Warcraft arb opportunities on swords
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      • NunyaBidness
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-26-09
        • 9345

        #178
        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
        Haha horrible typing by me too many BHO ( jack coke and green tea)
        Not reading this world of Warcraft arb opportunities on swords
        1) That sounds gross.

        2) Not WOW, I think that game allows you to buy things with money or else facilitates it in some way. Whereas TF2 has no method of currency, its a brand new barter economy. Too nerdy? If it helps, I've never played either game.
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        • gabe
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-12-11
          • 7405

          #179
          Originally posted by Thor4140
          Post the PM u lying asshole.
          my bad, had u confused for fosho lmao
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          • gabe
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-12-11
            • 7405

            #180
            Originally posted by BIGDAY
            GL this weekend Gabe. Honesty couldn't pull the trigger in anything. I think the card should be packed with awesome fights, so looking forward to the card for sure.
            Everyone thinks this is a tough fight to pick. I think it's an easy one. I hope I'm not left looking like a dope!
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            • fosho14
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-25-12
              • 554

              #181
              ...
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              • fosho14
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-25-12
                • 554

                #182
                Originally posted by DublinMeUp

                Your everything comprehension needs work, is your brain connected to your mouth (or hands in this case) or do they operate independently of each other.
                Back to the potato fields with you Dub-dub.
                BTW, your welcome for the torrent membership I gave you. I can see you've re-payed me quite nicely, wouldn't expect anything less. No need to dig up my past posts from several different threads. There are posts where you have been completely tooled as well, though I can't be bothered to spend valuable time like you do, searching around, re-reading pages and pages of your historical posts with a fine tooth comb looking for slip ups. How sad! Lets try and at least be a shred reasonable and stick to this thread, in the context of this conversation based on what I said...today. What did I just say? Is your memory that short? Let me repeat myself, and test your reading comprehension, I'm going to re-post what I posted this afternoon, and I want you to interpret that rather than go digging around bringing up contrary posts I've made in previous rants.

                This is what I posted today...in this thread... that is directly relevant to the topic at hand. I even bolded it but apparently your brain is still unable to perceive these simple signals; strange.

                Re-posted quote by me: "First of all, I'm aware that Kelly criterion advises one not to pass on any edge despite how tiny that edge may be."



                You've said a lot of stupid shit that has made you look more than foolish and been called out on it by ppl on this board. I recall laughing at how bad you've been owned and watching you not have a clue how to respond because of how harshly you were roasted. Unfortunately I don't have the interest nor do I care to re-read your entire library of posts in order to find these comments, it's just not a very constructive use of my time (apparently that's what you like doing in your spare time). To re-cap I made you look like so much of a jackass today, that you had no way to intelligently respond other than re-reading all of my past posts desperately searching for something that didn't sound right, and that was your lame presentation of a rebuttal. In this thread none of my posts were arguing with any math or logic or telling people how to manage their bankrolls. I repeat, I've done the exact opposite of what you are accusing me of in clearly and explicitly recognizing that kelly does not advise passing up any edge no matter how tiny.

                I am not arguing with this mathematical probability theory...

                Got that you stupid dirt farmer.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #183
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                  • Grabaka
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-19-11
                    • 3216

                    #184
                    Lol no popcorn?
                    Some guys need to learn to be humble. I handicap with my dick and bet with my ass....and whos bugging me?
                    BTW Gabe. Just letting you know right now, that your way off on Barao. It's in your best interests to listen to me to save yourself the impending losses your going to suffer from playing him.
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #185
                      Originally posted by Grabaka
                      Lol no popcorn?
                      Some guys need to learn to be humble. I handicap with my dick and bet with my ass....and whos bugging me?
                      BTW Gabe. Just letting you know right now, that your way off on Barao. It's in your best interests to listen to me to save yourself the impending losses your going to suffer from playing him.
                      lol
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                      • fosho14
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-25-12
                        • 554

                        #186
                        Originally posted by Grabaka
                        Lol no popcorn?
                        Some guys need to learn to be humble. I handicap with my dick and bet with my ass....and whos bugging me?
                        BTW Gabe. Just letting you know right now, that your way off on Barao. It's in your best interests to listen to me to save yourself the impending losses your going to suffer from playing him.
                        I admit that was pretty aggressive nut was mainly in jest. If you've seen my posts I'm not like that to ppl who treat me with respect. I've tried to be nice to gabe but he returns the favor by acting like a little prick back. Maybe I'm subconsciously sinking to his level who knows. At the end of the day who really takes this forum seriously anyway it is quite possibly the biggest train-wreck of filth I have ever seen.
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                        • fosho14
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-25-12
                          • 554

                          #187
                          so much hate, criticism and useless banter everywhere you look, with vary sparse beneficial content, with the exception of a select few and JC's thread.
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                          • fosho14
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-25-12
                            • 554

                            #188
                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                            i was going to give you a serious response about how i respect your personal strategy and blah blah blah, but these guys have pretty much covered it imo. (as an aside, its nice that we can still have respectful and intelligent discourse from time to time. and by "we" i am obviously referring to nunya's posse).

                            so instead, i wanted to ask you the following pressing question and please answer honestly:

                            do you believe that wannabet is 30 yrs old surgeon pulling in 400k?

                            warning: your future sbr reputation may hinge on your response to this question.
                            I have no idea how old he is, in his videos he looked like someone close to my age (like 20ish) though hard to tell with a mask. No idea how much money he has nor do I care, and also have no idea why you hate him so much. He was just trying to share insight and analysis which is more than 95% of the low-life's on here can say for what they contribute. Since when is assessing and evaluating fights, and sharing opinions not welcome on a forum geared towards betting mma?
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                            • Grabaka
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-19-11
                              • 3216

                              #189
                              This forum is like the wild west. If you **** up someone will challenge you. But be a good boy, take it to the chin, learn the math or dont bother talk about it. Its tough love.
                              Learn to talk in betting forums...."i lean" instead of "you will fail". "3 units" instead of "i pick X"......etc
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                              • Grabaka
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-19-11
                                • 3216

                                #190
                                So tell me Fosho....how you see the fight evolving? how you see Conga win? honest question (i have 300 on Jordan ATM)
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by fosho14
                                  I have no idea how old he is, in his videos he looked like someone close to my age (like 20ish) though hard to tell with a mask. No idea how much money he has nor do I care, and also have no idea why you hate him so much. He was just trying to share insight and analysis which is more than 95% of the low-life's on here can say for what they contribute. Since when is assessing and evaluating fights, and sharing opinions not welcome on a forum geared towards betting mma?
                                  Missing the point again. Its the manner in which he did it and how he shot down any argument in favour of Franklin
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                                  • fosho14
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-25-12
                                    • 554

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by Grabaka
                                    So tell me Fosho....how you see the fight evolving? how you see Conga win? honest question (i have 300 on Jordan ATM)
                                    Fact:
                                    - Jordan has not faced the quality of competition Kongo has
                                    - This will be Jordan's toughest test to date, and (on paper) this is Kongo's easiest test in quite some time.

                                    Speculation:
                                    - Kongo has steadily been improving his wrestling demonstrating good TDD and will not likely be taken down by Jordan, although i believe he could take Jordan down.

                                    -The reason this fight is so difficult to call is both have such poor striking defense, but I believe Jordan's is slightly worse with all around poor technique and against much weaker opposition.

                                    Those are my reasons, GL to you boss.
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                                    • fosho14
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-25-12
                                      • 554

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      Missing the point again. Its the manner in which he did it and how he shot down any argument in favour of Franklin
                                      Well I remember being involved in that conversation, and not being bothered by it. I just stated my opinion that no bet on Wand is a smart bet at this point in time. We agreed to disagree, and there was no problem. Too much drama bra.
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                                      • DeFactoCrippler
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-30-12
                                        • 2603

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by fosho14
                                        ...
                                        Someone come quick we need some assistance here. This man seems to be choking on a penis. Is there a Doctor in the house?
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                                        • fosho14
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-25-12
                                          • 554

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                          Someone come quick we need some assistance here. This man seems to be choking on a penis. Is there a Doctor in the house?
                                          These are the type of pathetic losers that frequent this board. Yikes!
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                                          • DeFactoCrippler
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-30-12
                                            • 2603

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                            Missing the point again. Its the manner in which he did it and how he shot down any argument in favour of Franklin
                                            Lol, I have never seen someone miss the point as consistently as this dunce. It's like the time he said he didn't go around sbr telling people not to make +EV bets. He goes into his hole for a few weeks then reappears, you guessed it, telling people not to make +EV bets.

                                            Dublin quotes the posts that support why he is the stupidest poster on this board, but we can't go quoting his previous stupidity, he was only the stupidest poster to ever grace these boards LAST WEEK. We need to keep it to the current conversation only. It's not like it really matters anyway, he is still the stupidest poster currently on here, because nothing has changed since then.

                                            Guys like Fosho and Wannabet are funny. People ridicule them and even go as far as to say "stupidest poster on the board". And around here, that says A LOT. But yet these people keep coming back and trying to give their opinion even though it is not respected and met with ridicule. it goes something like this...

                                            "please listen to me guys im just trying to make you money"

                                            "please validate my opinion"

                                            "Sbr is a wasteland for cerebral discussion im outta here"

                                            "ok im back please listen to me"

                                            "please stop mocking me, im just trying to make you money"

                                            "im outta here its you guys who are sorry you dont get my insight"

                                            "ok im back please listen to me please respect me"

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                                            • fosho14
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-25-12
                                              • 554

                                              #197
                                              Huh?
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                                              • fosho14
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-25-12
                                                • 554

                                                #198
                                                I stopped talking to your creepy pedo ass a long time ago dephaggo, ya silly bitch lol.

                                                This is neither here nor there but I guess you've forgotten that you were unanimously dubbed the idiot troll of this forum by consensus not too long ago. Just thought I'd put that in there.
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                                                • DeFactoCrippler
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-30-12
                                                  • 2603

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by fosho14
                                                  I stopped talking to your creepy pedo ass a long time ago dephaggo, ya silly bitch lol.

                                                  This is neither here nor there but I guess you've forgotten that you were unanimously dubbed the idiot troll of this forum by consensus not too long ago. Just thought I'd put that in there.
                                                  Actually you dubbed me that, then got buried. You tried to come back, got buried again. Even got called the "stupidest poster on the board" by numerous people (not just me this time).

                                                  Do you think your presence is valued here? Why do you think people call you the "stupidest poster on the board?"
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                                                  • fosho14
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-25-12
                                                    • 554

                                                    #200
                                                    Nope, tons of ppl called you that, I showed you to your face you delusional fool. You can pretend really really hard that it's not true, but it is.
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                                                    • DeFactoCrippler
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-30-12
                                                      • 2603

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by fosho14
                                                      Nope, tons of ppl called you that, I showed you to your face you delusional fool
                                                      Lol, is this going to be like the time people tried to explain to you what a +EV bet is? You must be a 4th grade teacher or something. You have been branded the "stupidest poster on the board". So whatever sbr thinks of ME, I'm not the "stupidest person here". You are.

                                                      People tell you point blank you are the stupidest poster here, because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because you are stupid. You called me a "troll and a liar" when I said you went around telling people to not make +EV bets. But it's turns out you just didn't know what I meant by "+EV" so you decided to call me a "troll and a liar" instead, because you were actually to stupid to understand the advice you were giving people.

                                                      Dublin tried to explain this to you AGAIN in this thread, and all you did was attack him because you are a complete and utter fool, lol. You are too stupid to even learn.
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                                                      • fosho14
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-25-12
                                                        • 554

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                        Lol, is this going to be like the time people tried to explain to you what a +EV bet is? You must be a 4th grade teacher or something. You have been branded the "stupidest poster on the board". So whatever sbr thinks of ME, I'm not the "stupidest person here". You are.

                                                        People tell you point blank you are the stupidest poster here, because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because you are stupid. You called me a "troll and a liar" when I said you went around telling people to not make +EV bets. But it's turns out you just didn't know what I meant by "+EV" so you decided to call me a "troll and a liar" instead, because you were actually to stupid to understand the advice you were giving people.

                                                        Dublin tried to explain this to you AGAIN in this thread, and all you did was attack him because you are a complete and utter fool, lol. You are too stupid to even learn.
                                                        nope didn't happen, quite the imagination you have though crippler.
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                                                        • fosho14
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-25-12
                                                          • 554

                                                          #203
                                                          I have been announced by a few on here as being stupid because they think I don't understand what kelly criterion is, and they're too idiotic to realize that it's not that I don't understand the concept, but rather that I don't find it suited to my situation based on my bankroll and risk tolerance. I'm not telling nor advising anyone to do anything, it is critical that you get that through your head dephaggo.

                                                          I'm aware that Kelly criterion advises one not to pass on any edge despite how tiny that edge may be. I'm not arguing with you about that. I've already stated in the past that I don't do this full time as a career like others, and this is more of an enjoyable hobby than anything where I like picking my spots (selecting bets that I feel have significant value, and staying away from ones that don't). Let me put this to you in another way, Kelly Criterion is not a one size fits all system and I am more conscious/concerned about my risk of ruin relative to my bankroll than anything. For example many times I see lines off much much more than Kongo/Jordan and those are the ones I jump on. For instance awhile back, Waldburger at evens over Hecht was an exceptional line -insane value on waldburger who should have been -250 at least! In contrast, I can't justify gambling on a fight in which I have absolutely no idea who will be the victor even if it is +115 for a 50/50 fight. There are plenty of opportunities elsewhere that can usually be found where there are +200 dogs who I have capped at 50/50, or a -200 fighter who should be -500 etc and so in these events I feel a bet is warranted. I like the system I have right now, but I'm in no way arguing that kelly criterion is the most widely accepted gambling theory or formula for serious dedicated professional gamblers.
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                                                          • gabe
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-12-11
                                                            • 7405

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by fosho14
                                                            I admit that was pretty aggressive nut was mainly in jest. If you've seen my posts I'm not like that to ppl who treat me with respect. I've tried to be nice to gabe but he returns the favor by acting like a little prick back. Maybe I'm subconsciously sinking to his level who knows. At the end of the day who really takes this forum seriously anyway it is quite possibly the biggest train-wreck of filth I have ever seen.
                                                            I act like a prick back? Are you kidding me, dude? I've always been friendly with you and responded to your PM's. Only called you dumb when you said something I thought was dumb. Nothing personal.
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                                                            • gabe
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 7405

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by fosho14
                                                              Fact:
                                                              - Jordan has not faced the quality of competition Kongo has
                                                              - This will be Jordan's toughest test to date, and (on paper) this is Kongo's easiest test in quite some time.
                                                              That isn't fact, it's just your opinion, and a wrong one at that. Shawn Jordan is a more difficult opponent than Mark Hunt, Matt Mitrione, and Pat Barry. He is Kongo's hardest fight in a while. You couldn't have been more wrong about your "fact"
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                                                              • gabe
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-12-11
                                                                • 7405

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                                Lol, I have never seen someone miss the point as consistently as this dunce. It's like the time he said he didn't go around sbr telling people not to make +EV bets. He goes into his hole for a few weeks then reappears, you guessed it, telling people not to make +EV bets.

                                                                Dublin quotes the posts that support why he is the stupidest poster on this board, but we can't go quoting his previous stupidity, he was only the stupidest poster to ever grace these boards LAST WEEK. We need to keep it to the current conversation only. It's not like it really matters anyway, he is still the stupidest poster currently on here, because nothing has changed since then.

                                                                Guys like Fosho and Wannabet are funny. People ridicule them and even go as far as to say "stupidest poster on the board". And around here, that says A LOT. But yet these people keep coming back and trying to give their opinion even though it is not respected and met with ridicule. it goes something like this...

                                                                "please listen to me guys im just trying to make you money"

                                                                "please validate my opinion"

                                                                "Sbr is a wasteland for cerebral discussion im outta here"

                                                                "ok im back please listen to me"

                                                                "please stop mocking me, im just trying to make you money"

                                                                "im outta here its you guys who are sorry you dont get my insight"

                                                                "ok im back please listen to me please respect me"

                                                                You just described me. =(
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                                                                • DeFactoCrippler
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-30-12
                                                                  • 2603

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by fosho14
                                                                  I have been announced by a few on here as being stupid because they think I don't understand what kelly criterion is, and they're too idiotic to realize that it's not that I don't understand the concept, but rather that I don't find it suited to my situation based on my bankroll and risk tolerance.


                                                                  Actually no. You have missed the point again, because you are stupid.

                                                                  The "Kelly Criterion" is by no means the only system that tells you to make +EV plays. The Kelly Criterion just gives you a system for HOW MUCH TO RISK when these +EV plays arise. In fact, no one will tell you to pass on a +EV play, unless they are a complete moron, or a child who does not have a sufficient bankroll.

                                                                  You said the other week that you "did not tell people to stop making +EV plays" but yet you did it again. So dating back to that you did not know what a +EV bet was because you were clearly telling people not to make them despite calling me a "troll and a liar" for accusing you of doing so. The posts Dublin quoted made you look like a complete fool.

                                                                  You even came in this thread telling people not to make them (Dublin quoted you). So either you know STILL don't really understand what a +EV play is, or you do understand but tell people not to make them anyway.

                                                                  People call you the "stupidest poster on this board" because you might actually be. Especially considering other members from the hall of fame like "jesus eats nubs" could very well have been trolling with a name like that. Your stupidity is %100 genuine, it's not an act, lol.

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                                                                  • fosho14
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-25-12
                                                                    • 554

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                                                    That isn't fact, it's just your opinion, and a wrong one at that. Shawn Jordan is a more difficult opponent than Mark Hunt, Matt Mitrione, and Pat Barry. He is Kongo's hardest fight in a while. You couldn't have been more wrong about your "fact"
                                                                    It is a concrete fact that Kongo has overall faced the much better quality competition (cumulatively). I guess you could argue that theoretically Jordan could currently be ranked as high as Kongo since rankings are purely subjective. If you did a thousand person poll right now, asking fans/fighters who they believe is a higher ranked opponent at this point in time the answer would probably be Kongo, based on his resume being considerably stronger than Jordans.
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                                                                    • fosho14
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-25-12
                                                                      • 554

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler


                                                                      In fact, no one will tell you to pass on a +EV play, unless they are a complete moron, or a child who does not have a sufficient bankroll.

                                                                      I'm a starving student, with a small bankroll.
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                                                                      • DeFactoCrippler
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-30-12
                                                                        • 2603

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by fosho14
                                                                        I'm a starving student, with a small bankroll.
                                                                        So then why don't you preface your "advice" by saying telling people how you are a little child who does not have enough money to gamble, nor understand even the most basic fundamentals, and is considered to be the "stupidest poster on sbr".

                                                                        That way people can ask themselves "Should I really listen to this guy, or is he just the stupidest poster on sbr...."

                                                                        Or maybe, and this is a radical idea, you could HOLD OFF GIVING ADVICE ON A SUBJECT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
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