Big Rumor On ESPN: Lakers Going After Both Paul and Howard

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  • Goat Milk
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    • 03-24-10
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    #36
    Originally posted by rm18
    Detroit and Boston both won without top 7 players, if you could pick any 12 guys not in the top 7 you would have a 100% chance
    Detroit was in 04. We're in a new era right now. Pierce or KG were both in the top 10, Ray Ray was still a top 17ish player in the league.

    The tide changed last year. Theres no going back to those types of Pistons teams now. It won't work.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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    • riffraff24
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      • 04-20-11
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      #37
      Lakers odds to win title just went from +620 to +550 because of today's rumors. 5Dimes had them at +620 for several weeks until a few hours ago.
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      • Goat Milk
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        #38
        Originally posted by riffraff24
        Kobe gave the go ahead for Mike Brown? I know for a fact that's incorrect.
        Bryant is consented on every big move the Lakers make. That's a fact. If Bryant doesn't agree the move isn't made.
        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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        • THE_LOCKSMITH
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          • 08-25-08
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          #39
          Bulls should being working on the same trade for Howard. Make a package around Joakim Noah to Orlando
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          • kobstopa
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            • 02-21-11
            • 2965

            #40
            Originally posted by Goat Milk
            LOL you think the Hornets are gonna trade Chris Paul for Pau Gasol? No chance. More like Gasol and three future picks.
            time is not on their side, either salvage now for something or it's all gone if anything we have learned from seen Lebron took off to Miami.

            In a normal circumstance, Chris Paul worth at least 2 x top5 draft picks.
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            • riffraff24
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              • 04-20-11
              • 7234

              #41
              Originally posted by Goat Milk
              Bryant is consented on every big move the Lakers make. That's a fact. If Bryant doesn't agree the move isn't made.
              I'm close with someone who worked for the team up until last year. He told me otherwise. Also, don't you recall the reports of Kobe being upset for not being consented about the hiring? Mitch Kupchek even said on an am570 radio interview that it was a business decision and they didnt feel it was neccesarry to have to get Kobe's approval. I specifically remember all of this. But I could be wrong...

              Other than that 1 decision I agree that Kobe has given the nod to every major decision.
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              • riffraff24
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                • 04-20-11
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                #42
                Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                Bulls should being working on the same trade for Howard. Make a package around Joakim Noah to Orlando
                Noah over Bynum and Odom? I doubt it
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                • Killer_Demo
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                  • 06-15-08
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                  #43
                  they will be great if they keep gasol with that group...i dont think they will be so great without him even with those big-name players
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                  • riffraff24
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                    • 04-20-11
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                    they will be great if they keep gasol with that group...i dont think they will be so great without him even with those big-name players
                    Gasol's performance in the playoffs last year was inexcusable. He is now expendable for the right deal.
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                    • Goat Milk
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                      #45
                      Bryant doesn't need Gasol to win. Gasol needs Bryant. Gasol's time is done. He doesn't deserve anymore rings. He had his moment. If Bryant wants number 6 he needs to get Howard. Miami will sweep the Lakers in a finals series with both their current rosters. I doubt LA wins even 1 game with that roster against Miami.

                      Artest is done. Guy is terrible. He will be a bum come playoff time.
                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                        • 08-25-08
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by riffraff24
                        Noah over Bynum and Odom? I doubt it
                        Odom is a throw in piece, guy is 32 years old with 2 years 17 million on his contract. Really comes down to if you like Noah locked up at 5 years 60 million vs Bynum 2 years 30 million and have to go through if he signs in Orlando after that
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                        • FindTheLock
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                          • 02-27-10
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                          #47
                          I'm a magic fan and I would take Noah over bynum any day of the week. Noah plays with heart and doesn't get hurt every game. I like Noah's Rodman mentality!
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                          • FindTheLock
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                            • 02-27-10
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                            #48
                            The magic are going to suck and be completely worthless once howard leaves, but at least they will be able to dump turk's contract! Hopefully they will get rid of Arenas too.
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                            • Speedy88
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                              • 03-19-11
                              • 11717

                              #49
                              If this continues, might as well just contract the league to 20 teams. If this happens, who would even want to watch the Hornets and the Magic?
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                              • FindTheLock
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                                • 02-27-10
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                                #50
                                I will always watch the Magic no matter how bad they suck, but I won't like what I will be seeing.
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                                • Enkhbat
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                                  • 04-18-11
                                  • 3158

                                  #51
                                  they can't get both, no way
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                                  • riffraff24
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                                    • 04-20-11
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Enkhbat
                                    they can't get both, no way
                                    They got Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. Anything can happen now
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                                    • NYSportsGuy210
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                                      • 11-07-09
                                      • 11347

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                      Lets make it clear that Kupchak runs everything through Bryant.

                                      Bryant has been running the lakers organization for a decade.

                                      He gave the go ahead on Mike Brown.

                                      He told them that either he leaves or shaq does.

                                      He got the trade for Pau Gasol.

                                      Nothing is done without Bryant's consent.

                                      Not this time....
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                                      • Hotdiggity11
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                                        • 01-09-09
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                                        #54
                                        As the last Finals proved, you can have several top 15 players on your team and still get whooped by a team that has been assembled over time and has learned to play together. A large part of basketball is team chemistry.
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                                        • bryant81
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                                          • 03-23-10
                                          • 326

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Hotdiggity11
                                          As the last Finals proved, you can have several top 15 players on your team and still get whooped by a team that has been assembled over time and has learned to play together. A large part of basketball is team chemistry.
                                          I don't chemistry would be an issue here. Miami made it all the way to the finals in their first year, and that's with LeBron and Wade, who are someone redundant. In this situation you have a PG, a wing, and a big. These guys are veterans and know how to play their positions. This wouldn't even be close if they got both those guys.

                                          Anyways, I think if they trade Bynum + fillers for Howard and trade Gasol + Odom for Paul and Okafor, that would be nuts.
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                                          • bryant81
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                                            • 03-23-10
                                            • 326

                                            #56
                                            But obviously that's not happening lol. Just get Dwight and I'm happy...
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                                            • FindTheLock
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                                              • 02-27-10
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                                              #57
                                              if anything they would be giving up more to get howard than to get paul
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                                              • eidolon
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                                                • 01-02-08
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                                                #58
                                                Paul/Howard combo can probably take any team to at least the playoffs
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                                                • jjgold
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                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                  #59
                                                  are you guys forgetting something???

                                                  Dallas played the series of their lives against heat and heat played horrific

                                                  If they played again heat would win 4-1 so no one could beat Miami
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                                                  • Ace_of_Spades
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                                                    • 10-14-09
                                                    • 13518

                                                    #60
                                                    Bulls in the mix for Howard too. Probably Noah and Deng for Howard or Boozer and Noah.
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      • 07-20-05
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                                                      #61
                                                      Howard is a loser men

                                                      Clowns dont win in the nba

                                                      He can care less about winning or losing and not tough enough to grind every night
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                                                      • hecameup
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 11-14-11
                                                        • 50

                                                        #62
                                                        The Lakers look ready to make a power move. The teams starting line up is aging, and with Mike Brown as the new head coach, Jerry Buss won't leave anything to chance.

                                                        If you thought the Paul Gasol trade was HUGE, watch what happens!
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                                                        • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                          • 07-13-06
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Goat Milk

                                                          You have a 0% chance to win an NBA title in this era without at least 1 top 7 player in the NBA. Now, you need more than that even. Dallas is lucky to get Caron Butler back next year. Big piece.

                                                          You need one superstar, but you need chemistry more than anything. Dallas beat Miami last year because Miami couldn't fill out their roster with the right guys, that's why the Knicks will go absolutely nowhere in the next three years. There's no way the Knicks will ever have the money or the right players to work with the guys they have now.
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                                                          • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                            • 07-13-06
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            Howard is a loser men

                                                            Clowns dont win in the nba

                                                            He can care less about winning or losing and not tough enough to grind every night
                                                            I agree he's overrated. With a league void of big men, his teams don't do nearly as much as they should.
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                                                            • jjgold
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                                                              • 07-20-05
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                                                              #65
                                                              Knicks are garbage

                                                              Anthony is a huge nba loser
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                                                              • manutd19
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                                                                • 05-24-11
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                                                                #66
                                                                I just hope D.Rose gets a good SG and wipe out these superstar teams
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                                                                • crustyme
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                                                                  • 09-29-10
                                                                  • 16896

                                                                  #67
                                                                  these deals are going to be done simply cause howard and paul have the leverage since they will be free agents after the season.

                                                                  they can dictate where they will get traded since no team will want them if they refuse to sign an extension. and they have no choice but to trade them since they will lose them anyways and get nothing in return.

                                                                  lakers end up with deron and howard or paul and howard.

                                                                  lakers got dis baby.

                                                                  exciting times to be a lakers fan.
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                                                                  • Big Bear
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                                                                    • 11-01-11
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Heat vs Lakers in finals
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                                                                    • manutd19
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                                                                      • 05-24-11
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      If the Bulls gets another scorer and a good SG, I can't see the Heats getting past them. But if Lakers get this deal done, it wil be interestin to see a Lakers vs Heat final.
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                                                                      • big0mar
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk

                                                                        LOL you think the Hornets are gonna trade Chris Paul for Pau Gasol? No chance. More like Gasol and three future picks.
                                                                        Do you think Charlotte really cares about getting good players?
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