WNBA San Antonio-Phoenix: what am I missing?

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  • Bluehorseshoe
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-06
    • 15016

    #36
    Originally posted by Edward-RAS

    5 points off?

    Let's not get carried away.
    No chance. It's one of those nights with those lines.

    If Minny wins, they're blowing them off the map.
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    • eldoctord
      SBR Sharp
      • 06-12-10
      • 265

      #37
      The only WNBA game I've paid attention to this season was Seattle scoring all of 24pts in a half against Minnesota. Trying to follow logic in the WNBA is about as helpful as predicting the result of my 10 year olds soccer game.
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      • ManBearPig
        SBR MVP
        • 12-04-08
        • 2473

        #38
        Originally posted by Edward-RAS
        All our WNBA stuff is being posted free this season for those who didn't know. twitter.com/raspicks
        Interesting...thx
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        • gryfyn1
          SBR MVP
          • 03-30-10
          • 3285

          #39
          probably due to the fact its Phoenix Home opener, and while they are "winless" one of those two was a road loss to Seattle. While two fo SA's win and thier only road win came vs Tusla a team that's complied a 6-33 record between last year and this year.

          Add in that Phoenix was 9-8 at home and SA was 6-11 on the road last year and why is this surprising?
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          • Beefcakes
            SBR Sharp
            • 04-11-11
            • 368

            #40
            do you think phoenix can cover a -2 point spread? im playing a teaser
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            • Bluehorseshoe
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-13-06
              • 15016

              #41
              Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

              No chance. It's one of those nights with those lines.

              If Minny wins, they're blowing them off the map.
              No blowout, but you go with both dogs late.
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              • rumple
                SBR MVP
                • 06-19-07
                • 2499

                #42
                I think San Antonio and Indiana both teams on their period. You can be any worse than this.
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                • SexyMit
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-12-06
                  • 6139

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  San Antonio should be a moderate favorite on the road here. There are no real injuries to so to speak of. Why is San Antonio, undefeated, getting 7 points to winless Phoenix?

                  I popped it once, and I'm doing everything I can to not hit it again.
                  San Antonio beat the worst team in the league 2 out of their 3 games. Those aren't much for wins in my opinion if you ask me. But I took Phoenix, long way from over though. But like I always say "If it seems to good too be true it usually is"
                  If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                  I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                  • BravesandMagic
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-26-10
                    • 637

                    #44
                    I have san antonio at +7 I need this!
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                    • BravesandMagic
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-26-10
                      • 637

                      #45
                      I also took Indiana Fever -2 2nd half
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                      • donjuan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-29-07
                        • 3993

                        #46
                        RAS and WNBA LOL
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                        • SexyMit
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-12-06
                          • 6139

                          #47
                          Well I should have stayed off SBR, I posted and there is the Phoenix Mercury that we all know and love.
                          If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                          I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                          • BravesandMagic
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-26-10
                            • 637

                            #48
                            wow fever suck lol
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                            • donjuan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-07
                              • 3993

                              #49
                              God damn Poogs for feeling the need to bump this and restart this all over again. You rebump it to be like Thremp destroying Robert and his peon GB


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                              • Justin7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-31-06
                                • 8577

                                #50
                                Originally posted by BravesandMagic
                                wow fever suck lol
                                Indiana goes for the league's lowest team-score ever on the night I bet them... *grumble*
                                Indiana's 3-pt shots after 3q: 0-12
                                2-pt Field-goals: 12-44.

                                I really do better when I don't watch the stat-ticker on these high-school games.
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                                • BravesandMagic
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-26-10
                                  • 637

                                  #51
                                  I feel bad for you! San Antonio came back! yeahhh!
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                                  • Edward-RAS
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-22-08
                                    • 535

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                    RAS and WNBA LOL
                                    HoopsEdge has been the most influential handicapper/service in the WNBA market over the past 3 years, with lifetime win rates of 56.03% on full game plays, beating the closing line by +1.48 points per pick, and 59.01% on second halves.
                                    Wish I knew what was funny about that?
                                    Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                    • Rich Boy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-01-09
                                      • 9714

                                      #53
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                                      • Edward-RAS
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-22-08
                                        • 535

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by BigDaddy
                                        whats you record for the year

                                        WNBA and Arena
                                        WNBA 10-6 YTD

                                        Arena, not many posts, lines too volatile early in year, but 6-1 YTD.
                                        Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                        • donjuan
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-29-07
                                          • 3993

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Edward-RAS
                                          HoopsEdge has been the most influential handicapper/service in the WNBA market over the past 3 years, with lifetime win rates of 56.03% on full game plays, beating the closing line by +1.48 points per pick, and 59.01% on second halves.
                                          Wish I knew what was funny about that?




                                          Cute that you're trying the same shit here too.
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                                          • Justin7
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-31-06
                                            • 8577

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by donjuan
                                            Criticisms aside, RAS is money on smaller markets, which include WNBA and NCAAF. The problem with RAS isn't their win-rate; it's your ability to keep outs where you bet their plays.
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                                            • donjuan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-29-07
                                              • 3993

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Justin7
                                              Criticisms aside, RAS is money on smaller markets, which include WNBA and NCAAF. The problem with RAS isn't their win-rate; it's your ability to keep outs where you bet their plays.
                                              How about front running their clients and saying they only have a duty to give their clients a modicum of +EV (making their stated records worthless)?
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                                              • wrongturn
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-06-06
                                                • 2228

                                                #58
                                                great call. tailed this.
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                                                • Justin7
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-31-06
                                                  • 8577

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by donjuan
                                                  How about front running their clients and saying they only have a duty to give their clients a modicum of +EV (making their stated records worthless)?
                                                  I don't know if they front-run.

                                                  I assume their stated records are against the market price when they release. If there was a real leak, the market price would be worse for their releases.
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                                                  • katstale
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-07-07
                                                    • 3924

                                                    #60
                                                    I hate absolutely ho ball, but i make money on it every year. i really should just go to bed and wake up and look at the scores. much less indigestion. glad we cashed this ticket Justin.
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                                                    • Edward-RAS
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-22-08
                                                      • 535

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by donjuan
                                                      How about front running their clients and saying they only have a duty to give their clients a modicum of +EV (making their stated records worthless)?
                                                      You can believe what you want, but that entire thread and the claims you are asserting here are misleading, biased, and in no way representative of the service.

                                                      All of our plays are not only graded against WA lines with full transparency but by a stricter standard than anyone else in the industry.
                                                      Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                                      • Edward-RAS
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-22-08
                                                        • 535

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Justin7
                                                        I assume their stated records are against the market price when they release. If there was a real leak, the market price would be worse for their releases.
                                                        They absolutely are.

                                                        We had a leak in the security of our plays for a 6 week period in 2008. It did not have any impact on recordkeeping and nothing like it has happened again.
                                                        Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                                        • donjuan
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-29-07
                                                          • 3993

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Justin7
                                                          I don't know if they front-run.

                                                          I assume their stated records are against the market price when they release. If there was a real leak, the market price would be worse for their releases.
                                                          Read the links I posted. Edward is a scumbag, albeit slightly less scummy than most of his industry peers.
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                                                          • donjuan
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-29-07
                                                            • 3993

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Edward-RAS
                                                            You can believe what you want, but that entire thread and the claims you are asserting here are misleading, biased, and in no way representative of the service.

                                                            All of our plays are not only graded against WA lines with full transparency but by a stricter standard than anyone else in the industry.
                                                            What's misleading? Was someone else posting for you over there (perhaps a known criminal)?
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                                                            • SexyMit
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-12-06
                                                              • 6139

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Edward-RAS
                                                              HoopsEdge has been the most influential handicapper/service in the WNBA market over the past 3 years, with lifetime win rates of 56.03% on full game plays, beating the closing line by +1.48 points per pick, and 59.01% on second halves.
                                                              Wish I knew what was funny about that?
                                                              You haven't won any units over the last 2 years betting the Wnba. You had 1 good year, give us a break. Since your so good why did you back out of doing Wnba this year? Cause you weren't featured in the Bloomberg Article? I can't figure it out, your 1 good year is long gone and done. You haven't even come close to duplicating your LUCKY 1st year doing WNBA. All you do is market your overall record, that's great except it averages out from your 1st good year.
                                                              If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                                              I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                                              • Edward-RAS
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-22-08
                                                                • 535

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                Read the links I posted. Edward is a scumbag, albeit slightly less scummy than most of his industry peers.
                                                                To make such a statement, it is clear you do not know me, or have any idea how the service is run.

                                                                We're releasing free WNBA plays on Twitter that are beating the closing line by an average of 1.5 points a game, and you're criticizing it.
                                                                Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                                                • Edward-RAS
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                                  • 535

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by SexyMit
                                                                  You haven't won any units over the last 2 years betting the Wnba. You had 1 good year, give us a break. Since your so good why did you back out of doing Wnba this year? Cause you weren't featured in the Bloomberg Article? I can't figure it out, your 1 good year is long gone and done. You haven't even come close to duplicating your LUCKY 1st year doing WNBA. All you do is market your overall record, that's great except it averages out from your 1st good year.
                                                                  A lot of people (including the market as a whole) disagree with your opinion.
                                                                  Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                                                  • Edward-RAS
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-22-08
                                                                    • 535

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                    What's misleading? Was someone else posting for you over there (perhaps a known criminal)?
                                                                    You've obviously been misled, so I think it is safe to say the thread is misleading.
                                                                    Other than RAS, I know of no way to just "join" a syndicate (and yes, obv, I'm labelling RAS a kind of a syndicate; it's a publicly available one). -PokerJoe Oct 2010
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                                                                    • Justin7
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-31-06
                                                                      • 8577

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Edward-RAS
                                                                      To make such a statement, it is clear you do not know me, or have any idea how the service is run.

                                                                      We're releasing free WNBA plays on Twitter that are beating the closing line by an average of 1.5 points a game, and you're criticizing it.
                                                                      Edward,

                                                                      To be fair, RAS is a WNBA giant. When you move a smaller market without much opposition, I am not sure the average line movement is as meaningful. I have seen a lot of weird things in WNBA, and its lines are nowhere near as efficient as other sports with similar limits.

                                                                      SexyMit stated that your 2008 rate was good, and RAS has done worse since then. What is RAS's record/ROR/Line movement average for 2009-2011?
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                                                                      • donjuan
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-29-07
                                                                        • 3993

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Edward-RAS
                                                                        To make such a statement, it is clear you do not know me, or have any idea how the service is run.

                                                                        We're releasing free WNBA plays on Twitter that are beating the closing line by an average of 1.5 points a game, and you're criticizing it.

                                                                        Originally posted by Edward-RAS
                                                                        A lot of people (including the market as a whole) disagree with your opinion.

                                                                        It's cute that you're still using this line after getting absolutely destroyed in the 2p2 thread for doing the same thing. When will you stop being so disingenuous that touts can have a massive impact on small markets like WNBA and thus beating the closing line is essentially meaningless?

                                                                        And you're right, I don't know you personally. However I have observed your actions and your posts on multiple forums and based on those you are, indeed, a scumbag.
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