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  • dreamlanding
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-22-11
    • 316

    #1016
    Also, just an addendum to what I was saying earlier...

    A 4-game losing streak at the beginning of a new labby line will put you down -$86.31, which is where I decided to cancel the line and restart. As I explained before, a 4-game streak at the end of a bad run is worse (LLWLLLL for example puts you down around $127 I believe). That never happened in the test I just ran on all of Brp's lines, but to counteract that in case it happens, you could just set $86.31 (or $100, or whatever you want) as your max. loss threshold within each individual labby line, and once that is met or crossed, the line is abandoned even if four losses in a row haven't occurred. So if the cumulative bets so far in a line have left you down more than $x, cancel the line and start again. This may make the pace of winnings slower, but protect you against something catastrophic.

    Again, it's all based on how solid your bankroll is.
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    • jnsbanman
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-08-11
      • 526

      #1017
      Originally posted by BigDeem5
      So you would probably need 1k Bankroll or higher to run this.

      Based on the numbers we have now... a $250 starting roll would have been sufficient. To date that $250 would be $987.
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      • Soon2BRich
        SBR MVP
        • 11-18-10
        • 1318

        #1018
        Originally posted by jnsbanman
        Hit $176 twice, so 3 large bets. The bulk are 44 and 22 with the occassional 88

        so how much do you win every time your bet win? $9-$10
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        • jnsbanman
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-08-11
          • 526

          #1019
          basically you are betting to win $10 per play.
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          • jnsbanman
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-08-11
            • 526

            #1020
            Ok... Lets do this for real. I have one "for fun" account with $110 BR. I have complete confidence in BRPs picking system. Since the bankroll is pretty small I will start bets to win $5. I will pick up where the system left off last night. That was with an ATS loss at $11 and a O/U Win at 40.

            Starting BR $110

            Purdue -5 (-112) $11.2 to win $10
            Over 63 (-110) $5.50 to win $5

            End BR - $93.30
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            • dreamlanding
              SBR Sharp
              • 02-22-11
              • 316

              #1021
              More Labby experimentation. Read about using multiple lines for each game up to the amount of games you are willing to lose. Using 4 games again for my example.

              GAME 1: 5-5-5-5
              GAME 2: 5-5-5-5
              GAME 3: 5-5-5-5
              GAME 4: 5-5-5-5

              First play is $11 to win $10 on the GAME 1 line. If that wins, you cross out the end 5s and play again on GAME 1 line. If it loses, you add the $11 to the end of that line, but proceed to the GAME 2 line. If GAME 2 wins, you update that line, then move BACK to GAME 1 line and play it. If GAME 2 loses, you move to GAME 3. Basically, every play FOLLOWING a win will be played on GAME 1 line and every play following a loss will be played on the next line in succession. If you play GAME 4 and it loses, you can move back to GAME 1. If any INDIVIDUAL LINE loses 4-in-a-row, take the loss, cancel the line and start over.

              Ran BRP's SIDES with this system and the results were better than the normal single-labby system I tested w/ SIDES.

              +$173.69, biggest bet $32.85 to win $29.86

              So, almost $50 more profit w/ a $14 smaller largest bet. Interesting, will test the TOTALS on this too.
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              • Just_Wynn_Baby
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-25-09
                • 188

                #1022
                Did I miss something here? Did BRP state the next bet pick target was 1st Half Purdue -5 and Over 63 ?
                Thanks
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                • Just_Wynn_Baby
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-25-09
                  • 188

                  #1023
                  sorry about that ...I found where he made the pick for purdue
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                  • Brp27345
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-01-10
                    • 3692

                    #1024
                    Originally posted by dreamlanding
                    More Labby experimentation. Read about using multiple lines for each game up to the amount of games you are willing to lose. Using 4 games again for my example. GAME 1: 5-5-5-5 GAME 2: 5-5-5-5 GAME 3: 5-5-5-5 GAME 4: 5-5-5-5 First play is $11 to win $10 on the GAME 1 line. If that wins, you cross out the end 5s and play again on GAME 1 line. If it loses, you add the $11 to the end of that line, but proceed to the GAME 2 line. If GAME 2 wins, you update that line, then move BACK to GAME 1 line and play it. If GAME 2 loses, you move to GAME 3. Basically, every play FOLLOWING a win will be played on GAME 1 line and every play following a loss will be played on the next line in succession. If you play GAME 4 and it loses, you can move back to GAME 1. If any INDIVIDUAL LINE loses 4-in-a-row, take the loss, cancel the line and start over. Ran BRP's SIDES with this system and the results were better than the normal single-labby system I tested w/ SIDES. +$173.69, biggest bet $32.85 to win $29.86 So, almost $50 more profit w/ a $14 smaller largest bet. Interesting, will test the TOTALS on this too.
                    Wow guys keep this shit flowing... it's beautiful...

                    As a group do you guys think I should continue with my parlay strategy... was just looking at it and if I lose these next 2 plays I will basically be at even... it's just tough to hit both sides some times... and it seems like what you guys are doing may work even better...

                    I have no problem continuing and will do so if that is what is wanted... either way I will continue to post the picks for 1st half's with the total and spread in the same game... since I think that is the best way to ensure avoiding either spread or total extended losing streaks...

                    Let me know...
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                    • jnsbanman
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-08-11
                      • 526

                      #1025
                      I think running a system that is running close to even is not really worth it... No offense. But I do know one thing... You picks are looking like gold.
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                      • BigDeem5
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-26-11
                        • 17191

                        #1026
                        I'm going to setup an excel sheet for the runinng system. Give me a bit of time
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                        • BigDeem5
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-26-11
                          • 17191

                          #1027
                          The running system is uploaded. I'm sure I/someone else could break it down into first half/2nd half... but that was a quick one
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                          • jnsbanman
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-08-11
                            • 526

                            #1028
                            What are you liking for later games... I'm looking at

                            8pm
                            Boston C +5 Over 62.5
                            Youngstown +7.5 Over 67
                            Nebraska -.5 Over 65

                            9pm
                            Ohio St -3.5 Under 59.5
                            Kentucky -4.5 Over 68.5

                            10pm
                            SD St -6.5 Over 65
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                            • dreamlanding
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-22-11
                              • 316

                              #1029
                              Originally posted by Brp27345
                              Wow guys keep this shit flowing... it's beautiful...

                              As a group do you guys think I should continue with my parlay strategy... was just looking at it and if I lose these next 2 plays I will basically be at even... it's just tough to hit both sides some times... and it seems like what you guys are doing may work even better...

                              I have no problem continuing and will do so if that is what is wanted... either way I will continue to post the picks for 1st half's with the total and spread in the same game... since I think that is the best way to ensure avoiding either spread or total extended losing streaks...

                              Let me know...
                              Tough call man. Whether you wanna continue the parlay chase is up to you, but yeah, like you said no matter what the case keep posting sides/totals plays. Having a consistent source of plays hitting over 50% (especially if you can stay above 55%) is invaluable to the research being done by myself and others in this thread. Supposedly using labbys, any percentage over 36% will be ultimately profitable, but of course the lower the percentage the more of a bankroll commitment you'll need and the higher the percentage the easier it will be and the better the cash flow.

                              I'm working on something HUGE now, a modified version of a very successful labby system I found in a great little NHL thread. Backtesting it against all your plays so far is going to be quite the task, but I might not need to based on the solid theory behind it and the fact that you're hitting well over 50%. Once I get back into the positive on the basic labbys I'm running on your plays now, which should only take a play or two, I might just start anew w/ this one. Will keep you posted.

                              This thread and the available info here combined with the labby research and practice has changed the way I think about/approach money management. Thank you to everyone and especially Brp for the foundation without which money management is irrelevant: WINNING PLAYS.

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                              • Brp27345
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-01-10
                                • 3692

                                #1030
                                Originally posted by dreamlanding
                                Tough call man. Whether you wanna continue the parlay chase is up to you, but yeah, like you said no matter what the case keep posting sides/totals plays. Having a consistent source of plays hitting over 50% (especially if you can stay above 55%) is invaluable to the research being done by myself and others in this thread. Supposedly using labbys, any percentage over 36% will be ultimately profitable, but of course the lower the percentage the more of a bankroll commitment you'll need and the higher the percentage the easier it will be and the better the cash flow. I'm working on something HUGE now, a modified version of a very successful labby system I found in a great little NHL thread. Backtesting it against all your plays so far is going to be quite the task, but I might not need to based on the solid theory behind it and the fact that you're hitting well over 50%. Once I get back into the positive on the basic labbys I'm running on your plays now, which should only take a play or two, I might just start anew w/ this one. Will keep you posted. This thread and the available info here combined with the labby research and practice has changed the way I think about/approach money management. Thank you to everyone and especially Brp for the foundation without which money management is irrelevant: WINNING PLAYS.
                                Thanks man... and like I said I will continue to post my picks in the same manner... because it is what has worked... and what I believe will continue to work... but if this series goes down here... I very well might start using a variation of the labby system and posting my picks using that money management if one of you wants to explain it perfectly to me...
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                                • jnsbanman
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-08-11
                                  • 526

                                  #1031
                                  Whats the bankroll sitting at right now?
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                                  • Brp27345
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-01-10
                                    • 3692

                                    #1032
                                    Originally posted by jnsbanman
                                    Whats the bankroll sitting at right now?
                                    for me... I am up $354 on the thread... but with the first 6 losses of this series I am down to being up $184... and if the next 2 plays go down I will be up $4 on the experiment... I hit one of the next 2 I am up $380 on the experiment...

                                    That's why I'm leaning towards one of ur strategies but using the same way to pick games...
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                                    • jnsbanman
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-08-11
                                      • 526

                                      #1033
                                      Well with $1000 roll you could do the chase that I was talking about and potentially go up huge in the next couple weeks.
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                                      • Pap45murF
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-30-09
                                        • 610

                                        #1034
                                        Wow. It got crowded in here didn't it. Used to be just 2 or 3 of us on your bandwagon. Now all the "pros" are here with their systems to steal your spotlight.

                                        You should hit one of the next 2 picks. Just think of the math. Total no-knowledge, blind pick scenario: you have a 25% chance to pick the correct side/total, meaning you should theoretically be getting a win 1 out of every 4 picks.. and by the end of your series, you should have won twice.

                                        And since you're picking with knowledge, that stat should be even higher. You should be winning 3 times a series (out of 8)! That lost series was a fluke! Let's cash this series.

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                                        • dreamlanding
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-22-11
                                          • 316

                                          #1035
                                          Originally posted by Pap45murF
                                          Wow. It got crowded in here didn't it. Used to be just 2 or 3 of us on your bandwagon. Now all the "pros" are here with their systems to steal your spotlight.
                                          Hey man, I've done nothing but give full credit to Brp. His *picks* are the most important part, we're all just trying to figure out what is the best, most profitable way to play them. No one claimed to be a "pro", we're all just experimenting in good fun w/ the ultimate goal of making everyone money.

                                          If Brp didn't want me to post anymore Labby stuff I would respect that 100% and keep track of it for myself. So far he's seemed to be interested in it though. I agree it's a bit crowded as far as finding his picks so maybe everyone (myself included) should post a little less to not clutter things up, but it's all for a good cause.

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                                          • Brp27345
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-01-10
                                            • 3692

                                            #1036
                                            Originally posted by Pap45murF
                                            Wow. It got crowded in here didn't it. Used to be just 2 or 3 of us on your bandwagon. Now all the "pros" are here with their systems to steal your spotlight. You should hit one of the next 2 picks. Just think of the math. Total no-knowledge, blind pick scenario: you have a 25% chance to pick the correct side/total, meaning you should theoretically be getting a win 1 out of every 4 picks.. and by the end of your series, you should have won twice. And since you're picking with knowledge, that stat should be even higher. You should be winning 3 times a series (out of 8)! That lost series was a fluke! Let's cash this series.
                                            Thanks for the continued support man and has gotten a little crowded lol... funny thing is I am still hitting above 33% of the parlays... which is way above the plain blind picking of 25%... the funny thing is I have been streaky as hell with parlays though... If I remember correctly that losing series of 8 bets was surrounded by 5 or 6 victories... and history seems to be repeating itself... the probability of hitting 33% of parlays over about 80 parlays... and hitting 2 8 game losing streaks has to be ASTRONOMICAL... but I guess that's how the pieces fall sometimes...

                                            In regards to the other guys talking about Labby's and stuff it is more than fine... I'm in approval of it actually... as it is just another way of using my picks... gonna stick with my strategy as well though... and as they said they are just updating once a day or once every couple of days to let me and everyone else know how it is going...
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                                            • Brp27345
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-01-10
                                              • 3692

                                              #1037
                                              [COLOR=#000000 ! important] By the way anyone treading through all this looking for the play... here it is...

                                              Play #7 - Series #28


                                              Parlay - Purdue -5 / Ov. 63 (1st Half Bet) ($75 to win $195)
                                              [/COLOR]
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                                              • MexicanStallion
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-08-08
                                                • 20429

                                                #1038
                                                Crazyness of what you have started. Hope you can avoid another series loss with Purdue. Best of luck.
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                                                • dreamlanding
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-22-11
                                                  • 316

                                                  #1039
                                                  Easy over, but holy hell Illinois WILL NOT MISS.
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                                                  • Brp27345
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-01-10
                                                    • 3692

                                                    #1040
                                                    Keep thinking to myself they can't really keep shooting this well... then they make another shot and I think I guess I am wrong... 80% from the field any good for a half...
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                                                    • jnsbanman
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-08-11
                                                      • 526

                                                      #1041
                                                      What do we got next?
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                                                      • Brp27345
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-01-10
                                                        • 3692

                                                        #1042
                                                        Next play will be...

                                                        Parlay - Nebraska -1 / Ov. 65 (1st Half Bet)
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                                                        • Brp27345
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-01-10
                                                          • 3692

                                                          #1043
                                                          pretty sure this is going to be too little too late...
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                                                          • 1gamer
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-09-11
                                                            • 723

                                                            #1044
                                                            This game ain't over yet...
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                                                            • jnsbanman
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-08-11
                                                              • 526

                                                              #1045
                                                              Here they come.... Damn it I just put in my next bet going to the next level
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                                                              • Brp27345
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-01-10
                                                                • 3692

                                                                #1046
                                                                I think Nebraska wins this game... that's not the question... in regards to the total Mizzou has been held under 70 once this year... and pretty often score in the 80's... therefore if I feel Nebraska will win... they will have to score more... nough said...
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                                                                • jnsbanman
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 01-08-11
                                                                  • 526

                                                                  #1047
                                                                  Gonna cash the over!
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                                                                  • bhssoccer89
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 06-17-10
                                                                    • 291

                                                                    #1048
                                                                    brp what book do you get all these 1st half plays at mine only carries a select few
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                                                                    • Just_Wynn_Baby
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-25-09
                                                                      • 188

                                                                      #1049
                                                                      1st Half Nev -1 o65 but how much are we putting down if we don't cover the purdue game ? $105 ?
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                                                                      • Brp27345
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-01-10
                                                                        • 3692

                                                                        #1050
                                                                        Originally posted by Just_Wynn_Baby
                                                                        1st Half Nev -1 o65 but how much are we putting down if we don't cover the purdue game ? $105 ?
                                                                        thats the idea.. yup... gonna suck all our profits if it loses... but that is the bet...
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