USA -148 to win FIBA

dimon · 08-25-10, 01:16 PM

yes it is...they will not win the championship...also, 27 points is great, but what does that game means....that's right absolutely nothing...so field at +130 is the play...trust me

PAYTON20 · 08-25-10, 01:17 PM

dimon, who do you think will win it??

by the way... Jose Calderon has dropped out of the tournament for Spain.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5716424/jose_calderon_injury_leaves_spain_short.html

PAYTON20 · 08-25-10, 01:26 PM

Ahhh dimon... Greece fan I see.

This is your post from earlier:

"watch the game and see...US will loose this game...Greeks are very good TEAM...not individual talent, but a good TEAM...and they will beat US at home...also, they is a very good value at +1400 for the Greece to win" - dimon

You predicted them to win straight up and they were demolished by almost 30 in their own arena. What does that say? I think you have a very biased opinion. Anyhow, your opinion is appreciated...I'd like to see what people think about this.

dimon · 08-25-10, 01:28 PM

man, I think that for US to win it will be very hard, because the way the tournament structured...think about it, Greece might, just might played that way to make sure they will make adjustments if the play US in the elimination round...Calderon is out, but Spain is still great team..they will make US earned it, and trust me, for US it will all boild down to jump shots...world know how to play much more talented team...so, the US will rely on the jumpers in key moment, and it will happen more than once in Turkey, so I think that for field +130 or whatever is very good...actually you can wait and when US blows whoever they play first-second game...line might move to +140 or even +150...I really doubt that books will give more...and you are right, it looks too easy now, but that what books want you to think...I will be there actually, for all the games starting quarterfinals and will be able to pick up more info when there...I hope that US blows everybody out on their way to the quarterfinals, that's when the line will be really attractive for the "field"...just my 2 cents...on the other hand US girls gurantee to win, and at -450 is very good price I think

ClipShow14 · 08-25-10, 02:33 PM

i think usa will win it, i'm on this price. i'm not too confident though

dimon · 08-25-10, 03:03 PM

not a fan, but played semi-pro for some time, and know thing or two about international basketball, and will enjoy the games there in a few days...as I said ther style and structure of the tournament is not what US players used to...so let's see..I really will jump on the field after qualification matches..USA will blow most of the opponets and we will have a very good price for field...then agaon if you want to play US should've done so few days ago at -125

take care

Baller85 · 08-25-10, 04:18 PM

At this price it's a steal.. USA will win the FIBA Championship.

terpkeg · 08-25-10, 04:37 PM

Call me a sucker, but I am in for 2u. This is not the same USA team who was finishing out of final 4 in early part of 2000's. Much effort has went into USA basketball the past few years.

PAYTON20 · 08-25-10, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by terpkeg

Call me a sucker, but I am in for 2u. This is not the same USA team who was finishing out of final 4 in early part of 2000's. Much effort has went into USA basketball the past few years.

Coach K baby- They actually play defense now! Plus this team is a full of young hungry players who want to win. I think USA got fed up with their poor performances earlier this decade, and have aimed at assembling a more cohesive team suited for international play.

beefcake · 08-25-10, 05:52 PM

Did you guys listen to Fran F today? 3 of greeces top players were not playing.The greeks were playing possum in this friendly. Still I cant argue with this price..Taking this youre getting a huge hedge opportunity if the USa makes the finals,cause the other side will be at least +200..
Good luck with whatever you decide.I personally have greece at +1400 and Spain at +600..

TobiasFunke · 08-25-10, 05:55 PM

When does this tournament end?

PAYTON20 · 08-25-10, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by TobiasFunke

When does this tournament end?

The final is September 12th in Istanbul

PAYTON20 · 08-25-10, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by beefcake

Did you guys listen to Fran F today? 3 of greeces top players were not playing.The greeks were playing possum in this friendly. Still I cant argue with this price..Taking this youre getting a huge hedge opportunity if the USa makes the finals,cause the other side will be at least +200..
Good luck with whatever you decide.I personally have greece at +1400 and Spain at +600..

I didn't get to watch with audio, so no. Do you know which players he was referring to? I want to do some research on this. Thanks for the heads-up beefcake

SammyToy100 · 08-25-10, 11:13 PM

dont look too much into this Greece game. Greece didnt want to show USA anything. Anyways the first game u can hedge out of this is in the semifinals when they play Spain.

jayroy25 · 08-25-10, 11:46 PM

USA should roll

jayroy25 · 08-25-10, 11:46 PM

they are most dominant team in world basketball. during any year

dimon · 08-26-10, 12:06 AM

glad that you guys realize that Greece is not 27 points worse than USA...and Spain will be a diferent team...with all due respect to coach K, coaches in the world know how to play this game...we will have a great geme...also, as someone pointed out bet USA now and then hedge it later...whatever you do GL

Austin103 · 08-26-10, 09:40 AM

Greece was missing there 2 big guys down low.

Don't let the Greece/US game fool you.

cala56 · 08-27-10, 08:18 AM

Usa is -200 to win fiba really

kkkkk · 08-27-10, 08:21 AM

USA was -125 few days ago, if its -148 now its not worth at all.

Diesel79 · 08-27-10, 11:16 AM

-148 is little bit too much for me....

PAYTON20 · 08-27-10, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Diesel79

-148 is little bit too much for me....

Line went up to -155 yesterday at it's highest point, and now has dropped to -142...

PAYTON20 · 08-27-10, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by cala56

Usa is -200 to win fiba really

You must play at Sportsbook

DenverDelight · 08-27-10, 12:16 PM

dont like it..spain more cohesive team

jjgold · 08-27-10, 12:20 PM

Dont know

We have played ok so far but do we have Bigs to win inside??

andysinvestment · 08-27-10, 12:41 PM

U.S. may win this tournament (they are the obvious favorite) but the 'friendly' matches leading up to the World Cup should be no indication of how dominant they will be to win this tournament. The Americans are expected to win EVERY international game they play and therefore they bring the pressure, agressive defense, insane effort for every game they play. Greece, France, Lithuania, all of these teams that got blown out were not playing as careful and focused as they would have been if they were playing in the tournament. Against France, the U.S. team didn't look dominant until the third quarter. Spain, taking the game seriously in Spain, barely lost by 1 point.

The US may win this tournament but they won't blow the good teams out. I would say they don't beat the spread in most of their games during the tournament.

pavyracer · 08-27-10, 12:42 PM

-148 is not a gift when you have to play a dozen games to win it.

CapNWatch · 08-27-10, 12:52 PM

Its either USA or Spain and USA clearly has the athletic advantage. I think 145 is a good price.

PAYTON20 · 08-27-10, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Dont know

We have played ok so far but do we have Bigs to win inside??

This is my biggest concern as well. Tyson Chandler, Kevin Love, and Lamar Odom.... If there's foul trouble it could be a problem.
Although I do like the height and length of the US at other positions with Kevin Durant, Rudy Gay, and Derrick Rose. Their defense has looked really good so far.

This team is also different from our previous international teams because they actually have knock down outside & 3pt shooters with Curry, Billups, and Gordon.

I have also noticed there is not 1 player in this tournament who can defend and keep up with the speed of Rose or Westbrook

PAYTON20 · 08-27-10, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by andysinvestment

U.S. may win this tournament (they are the obvious favorite) but the 'friendly' matches leading up to the World Cup should be no indication of how dominant they will be to win this tournament. The Americans are expected to win EVERY international game they play and therefore they bring the pressure, agressive defense, insane effort for every game they play. Greece, France, Lithuania, all of these teams that got blown out were not playing as careful and focused as they would have been if they were playing in the tournament. Against France, the U.S. team didn't look dominant until the third quarter. Spain, taking the game seriously in Spain, barely lost by 1 point. The US may win this tournament but they won't blow the good teams out. I would say they don't beat the spread in most of their games during the tournament.

This may be true... But for this bet all you need is for the US to win the game. Spread doesn't matter

Originally posted by pavyracer

-148 is not a gift when you have to play a dozen games to win it.

They have to play 9 games and the first 7 are a cake walk. After they advance from their group, they need 4 wins in a row to win it

Originally posted by CapNWatch

Its either USA or Spain and USA clearly has the athletic advantage. I think 145 is a good price.

My thoughts exactly and there is no way you're getting a -140 line on the USA vs Spain game in the tournament

pavyracer · 08-27-10, 01:34 PM

If it's a cake walk then why is the line not -400 instead it is -148. You think the books are hanging a cake walk line at -148?

PAYTON20 · 08-27-10, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

If it's a cake walk then why is the line not -400 instead it is -148. You think the books are hanging a cake walk line at -148?

I said the first 7 games. Spain will be the test. They would meet Spain in the semis, their 8th game. The winner of that game wins it all in my opinion. Spain is without Pau Gasol and Jose Calderon which makes me think the -148 (-142 now) is a smart play.

dimon · 08-27-10, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by jayroy25

they are most dominant team in world basketball. during any year

fuk this shi*t...rediclious fuk...watch more games

dimon · 08-27-10, 10:14 PM

now...food for thought...US only way to win it all...they can't have a cold shotting night in the playoffs...watch the olympic finals...USA was no more than 5-8 points ahead...that's it...teams in the worlds know they can't run with US, so game plan will be slow the game down as much as possible...so big US spreads will not happen 100% agree...no inside players...not that big of a deal, because there is not a dominant center on ANY team...Mark Gasol, is the best center at this tournament, and as good as he is, still not someone you will go to on every possesion...so now we had teams like Greece who played very shade game, let the US think that they can easily beat them by 27 I mean can't you name at leat 3 out of 5 from Greeks starting lineup...now go back and see how Greece played them on Sep 1st 2006...I watch the game and saw what can team play do to bunch of tallented motherfkers who could not knock down jumpers...so I am telling you this...elite teams are much more experience to the US, coach K of course is very big factor...but I think when it will go down to the emotional game, US will not come on top...again they are the most talented team, but if you want to bet for them to loose...wait till the qualification games are played...US will be 5-0 and will be like -250 or so to win and that's the time to bet the field...GL to whatever you do...but here is a quick thought...I think that fading Russian will be a good idea...just wait till they play the first game...I think that they will be very bad this year