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  • Defuzas
    SBR High Roller
    • 06-19-10
    • 127

    #71
    I think Lebanon will win against Canada, Lithuania with Spain should play equal till the end of the game, or overtime, with 5 pts or less victory any of these teams.
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    • dimon
      SBR MVP
      • 08-14-09
      • 1159

      #72
      Spain did not played a good game so far on this tournament...so we have a Great team, well coached that did not played great game as of yet...so as Greeks...I think we will be able to see the true Greek team today, even though not likely...they advance now...so I am tiered of saying things here...everybody knows something I don't with team USA I guess...they are the champions, and books gives out GIFTS to us...go claim it right now...funny
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      • PAYTON20
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-02-10
        • 5217

        #73
        Originally posted by jjgold
        USA was overmatched today by Brazil and it was a miracle we won

        We are going to have a tough time winning the gold
        One tough game JJ, keep the faith my man
        Hopefully they will use this as a wake-up call and motivator for the big games coming up
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        • zafzaf
          SBR Sharp
          • 09-06-09
          • 457

          #74
          i dont think usa win it all
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          27-33 +8.9
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          • Gdog
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-01-10
            • 101

            #75
            who would beat the usa?
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            • dimon
              SBR MVP
              • 08-14-09
              • 1159

              #76
              Originally posted by ODIRISH
              Dimon:

              Spain will not finish 3rd in the group. How are you not understanding this. Spain, Brazil, Argentina and Greece are all going to be on one side of the 16 team bracket and USA will be on the other side with Turkey and France. That means Greece, Argentina, Spain and Brazil will all have to play eachother before USA even has 1 tough game. That means USA will play in the Final game against one of those 4 teams. Go look at the FIBA website it has it all on there.
              I wonder now who will finish 3rd now in Group D??? That's a very big question I see...LOL...so now all od a sudden Spain USA can easily be the quarter final game isn't it??? That Spain team won't be too much trouble for USA I think though...but some others can
              Last edited by dimon; 09-01-10, 04:16 PM.
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              • dimon
                SBR MVP
                • 08-14-09
                • 1159

                #77
                Originally posted by Gdog
                who would beat the usa?
                no body...this team is unbeatable, and that's why they are only -185 to win it all...it is obvious that team USA is a champion...and teams like Turkey, Lithuania, Greece, Spain, Argentina, and some other good teams will NEVER beat the USA, so they are locked for the 1st and that's why only -185...GL to all
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                • ji03
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-27-09
                  • 1144

                  #78
                  At the start, I thought Spain would win it all, but they have not looked good at all this tournament.
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                  • dimon
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-14-09
                    • 1159

                    #79
                    Originally posted by ji03
                    At the start, I thought Spain would win it all, but they have not looked good at all this tournament.
                    You are right...BUT in most of it's tournaments they usually don't blow all the oponents, but they know when to win when it is matter the most
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                    • PAYTON20
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-02-10
                      • 5217

                      #80
                      Spain vs Greece in the 1st rd on the opposite side of the bracket. Serbia, Turkey AND France also in the top side

                      USA would play the winner of New Zealand and Russia in the Quarterfinals, and Argentina/Lithuania in the Semis

                      Whoever wins the top bracket has the toughest road to the Finals ever. HUGE break for Team USA
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                      • andysinvestment
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-27-10
                        • 16

                        #81
                        US barely beat Brazil in group play. Spain lost to France (which the US blew out in a "friendly" game). If this were a best of 7 playoffs like in the NBA then the US and Spain would might be favorites. But because it's just one and done any of the top teams in the tournament could win (Greece, Spain, France, Serbia, Brazil, Argentina, etc.). All it takes for the US to lose is a couple of bad quarters in a row and the opposing team getting in a groove. Brazil for instance shot something like 70% during the first half of their game with the US. I do not see value in this bet.
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                        • andysinvestment
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 08-27-10
                          • 16

                          #82
                          I would also like to point out that France, though they eventually got blown out in the "friendly" match against the US, was very competitive in the first half and even looked like a better team at the beginning of the game. So we can't assume the US team is really that dominant... they just run up the scoreboard and play insanely tough even in friendlies. But when the other teams play hard and strategic ball (like zone defenses, pick and rolls at the top of the key, etc. like Brazil and Spain) the games are much more competitive.

                          Now that the bracket is set, it's easy to look back and say -148 is a good bet. But this thread was created on 8/25 before the tournament even really started. So at the time, you didn't know Greece and Spain and Argentina and Serbia would all be in the same half of the bracket and the US would only have to play Russia/New Zealand in the quarterfinals. I'm glad it has worked out this way, but at that time that was not a good bet in my opinion. And the "almost" loss to Brazil basically shows that. This is international ball, (as Dimon said) and the US may have the best most athletic players, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to play the best "team" basketball for every 4 quarters. In fact, NBA players are used to best-of-seven games series... not one-and-done games. So it's a completely different kind of pressure. If you're losing focus, or not shooting the ball very well, there is no next game to shoot better or make adjustments. You have to make mid game adjustments and find out what works RIGHT NOW. But NBA players like to sulk and get on the refs during the game when things aren't going their way.

                          Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the US and I want them to win the tournament. But I'm also realistic. So far the defensive intensity has really impressed me with the US, but you can see how if you use screens and run plays it doesn't matter how tight you are on your man. If you execute your plays you're going to score. If you have a seven footer in the post he can shoot over the top of Kevin love or Lamar Odem. Just like Brazil did against the US. It doesn't matter how much "star power" or athleticism you have. And if you play a good zone defense and collapse well on the US shooters, you'll be able to get some stops.

                          Beating up on Greece by 27 points in a "friendly" is not a good indication of how well the US would play against them in the actual tournament. The original post about -148 for US to win the tournament in my opinion was not a "steal". In order for that bet to have been a good one, the US would would beat everyone by double figures and then played Spain in the final. But as we're seeing, Spain probably won't make the final, and the US has already almost lost a game. And we'll see how they do in the semis/finals.
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                          • PAYTON20
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-02-10
                            • 5217

                            #83
                            See ya later Greece
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                            • superbeing
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 09-03-10
                              • 16

                              #84
                              I think USA has struggled at times and is definitely not a for sure thing to win it all, I think there is no clear cut choice right now, if this was the team that won the olympics I would say...damn right, they will win it all.
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                              • Gilero
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-13-10
                                • 618

                                #85
                                Spain is not playing his best basketball, but will be on the safe end.
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                                • beefcake
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 14029

                                  #86
                                  Golden Road now for a US/Spain final...
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                                  • zlate22
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-15-10
                                    • 511

                                    #87
                                    usa serbia final serbia wina chAMPIONCHIP
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                                    • TeamTT
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 04-20-10
                                      • 695

                                      #88
                                      At the moment Spain has good value. They will make the final
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                                      • wrongturn
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-06-06
                                        • 2228

                                        #89
                                        talent wise, usa is the best, but can't say that on their teamwork. they can lose if they are not at their best in a game.
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                                        • PAYTON20
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-02-10
                                          • 5217

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Gilero
                                          Spain is not playing his best basketball, but will be on the safe end.

                                          Originally posted by TeamTT
                                          At the moment Spain has good value. They will make the final

                                          Originally posted by jon13009
                                          Not enough incentive for the USA to be a good bet in this tourn.

                                          Originally posted by DenverDelight
                                          dont like it..spain more cohesive team
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                                          • Onefreedm1nd
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 06-15-10
                                            • 282

                                            #91
                                            Liked team USA's composure today think they will win this rather easily
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                                            • beefcake
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-26-09
                                              • 14029

                                              #92
                                              If they have to play turkey in the final in their own stadium with 30,000 mad turks watch out..The home country edge is worth 5 points here.. USA -6-8 vs turkey..-11-13 vs serbia..
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                                              • dimon
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-14-09
                                                • 1159

                                                #93
                                                small bet on Lithuania +2000 to win it all...I really think they can beat USA...then I will hedge for sure...but I like LIT at that price
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                                                • dimon
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-14-09
                                                  • 1159

                                                  #94
                                                  and I will tell Turkey crowd is worth about 10 points easy...trust me
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82602

                                                    #95
                                                    I wouldn't be shocked if the US loses to Lithuania outright tomorrow.
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                                                    • PAYTON20
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-02-10
                                                      • 5217

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      I wouldn't be shocked if the US loses to Lithuania outright tomorrow.
                                                      Take it then the +625 is just sitting there...
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                                                      • PAYTON20
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-02-10
                                                        • 5217

                                                        #97
                                                        Total domination. Never a doubt...

                                                        Cash it for 500!! ODIRISH congrats on your hit as well!

                                                        I tried to get everyone to go heavy on this one. I gave you guys a stone cold LOCK for -148! Hope at least some followed.

                                                        dimon, you made yourself look like a fool in this thread and so did a lot of other posters
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                                                        • Goat Milk
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-24-10
                                                          • 25850

                                                          #98
                                                          Payton.


                                                          PavyRacer, you are way out your element in this section. Stick to players talk and college stuff.
                                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                          • Baller85
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 03-21-10
                                                            • 305

                                                            #99
                                                            I guess I was right.. This was free money
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                                                            • PAYTON20
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-02-10
                                                              • 5217

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                              Payton.


                                                              PavyRacer, you are way out your element in this section. Stick to players talk and college stuff.
                                                              Goat. Thanks for your boost of confidence. I locked in the bet just after I got your PM response.
                                                              It was easier than I even expected. Great to see USA back on top in the international game

                                                              Originally posted by Baller85
                                                              I guess I was right.. This was free money
                                                              Good stuff Baller85. I'm glad someone here had their mind right. Anyone who knows basketball could've seen that USA's roster was farrrr superior to any other teams'. Everyone kept calling this the Team USA "B-team" but honestly this team had all the perfect pieces for international play. A lot of people were obviously sleeping on Kevin Durant too.
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                                                              • Premierr23
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 01-16-10
                                                                • 511

                                                                #101
                                                                they did a nice job especially Durant
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                                                                • jquest
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 08-09-10
                                                                  • 43

                                                                  #102
                                                                  What an epic lock this was. No one can ever touch USA basketball. At least for another 10 years.
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                                                                  • reppin_the_847
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-10-10
                                                                    • 1576

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Wish I had put a billion dollars on this line (if I had it lol). Too bad I didn't put any money on this line.
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                                                                    • PAYTON20
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-02-10
                                                                      • 5217

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by jquest
                                                                      What an epic lock this was. No one can ever touch USA basketball. At least for another 10 years.
                                                                      and a half!!
                                                                      Originally posted by reppin_the_847
                                                                      Wish I had put a billion dollars on this line (if I had it lol). Too bad I didn't put any money on this line.
                                                                      I tried to rally people to bet on this but there were sooo many haters that tried to shoot it down. Oh well, their loss
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                                                                      • PAYTON20
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-02-10
                                                                        • 5217

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by Defuzas
                                                                        USA will not win FIBA world champ this year, sorry.
                                                                        Originally posted by Robber
                                                                        too high

                                                                        other good teams this year

                                                                        argentina lithuania greece spain serbia
                                                                        Originally posted by dimon

                                                                        GL dude...very "educated bet"....LOL...especially after today game...with Brazil....are you really think that they guarantee to win...I will be laughing big time when you loose...NO VALUE in this bet at all
                                                                        dimon, where did you go buddy? nowhere to be seen. you must be busy eating...
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