Dude, JW Cash, why do you keep posting your "system plays" and record like anyone but one other loser in here is following it? Go start a JW Cash System forum. Hell if you had half the smarts of one of JM's (or whoever he is) testicle hairs you would sell your system and become a rich POS like JM. So.....why are you in here begging for attention???
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I undertand that, but not everyone is following all of your plays (and/or understands them) so it is just making the thread a little congested and realistically could end up causing people to place erroneous bets and lose money. When people start coming into the thread asking "Is this where I can get the JW Cash picks" then feel free to post them, but until then chill.Comment -
What system is that?Comment -
...winna winna...........hickory smoked BBB pulled pork dinna........( w/beans)
Congrats all Houston and Detroit backers..............
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woohoo houston and detroit cash.Comment -
Houston & Detroit both win on [b bet]
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Just keep winning with this system. Keep the reverse crap out of here. If you want to start a new thread then that's fine. It's funny because as soon as an [A] bet loses, that's when people come in here and start with the 'reverse system,' stuff.
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Updated JM Series Record:
10 Wins, 1 Loss, -8.7 Units
No more plays until 11/15/2010.Comment -
Can someone please clarify something.
Hey everyone, im new to this board and the whole JM system. I have been following this board for about a week now and will be making my first bet on 11/15 with New Jersey. Can someone please tell me if my understanding of this system is correct. I will use 11/15 as my example:
Essentially, if I wanted to win $5 on a line, I will bet to WIN $5 against (A) bet. If New Jersey loses then I will bet to WIN $10 on 11/17 on (B) bet. If they lose that game then I will bet on 11/19 to WIN $20 on (C) bet.
Also, one last question. Im kind of confused by the whole 3 point system. What team do I buy the 3 points for? The bet, or the agaisnt?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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you buy for the team you are backingComment -
Thank you COYLO, is my understanding of how the system works accurate as well?Comment -
lol there point of betting if your betting 5 dollarsComment -
i need to look into this system, it might just work for me too. i keep hearing: it's about a management issue, is that correct?Comment -
Im just askin a simple question zigo. FYI, im a poor college kid. $5 could buy me a subway footlong!!!!!......................
BTW, my starting bankroll is only $150, how much should I be betting per line?
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OK I know this is mainly Version 1- Are there any other versions going off before the 15th?Comment -
lilb999:Broadly speaking you are correct. However, if you can do the math, your bets should be like this:Essentially, if I wanted to win $5 on a line, I will bet to WIN $5 against (A) bet. If New Jersey loses then I will bet to WIN $10 on 11/17 on (B) bet. If they lose that game then I will bet on 11/19 to WIN $20 on (C) bet.
A Bet: place enough $ to win 1 unit (1 unit is an amount of your choosing, but 2% of your bankroll is a good figure). If the A bet wins, its the end of that series. However, if loses:
B Bet: place exactly the amount of $ to win 1 unit plus your lost A Bet stake. If the B bet wins, its the end of that series. However, if loses:
C Bet: place exactly the amount of $ to win 1 unit plus your lost A Bet stake and your lost B Bet stake. Its the end of the series, whatever happens. If the C bet loses.....well, you are either potless, if you played with too much of your bankroll, or you use the significant remains of your bankroll (because you only targeted 2%) to recover the lost stakes in the next 5-6 series, on the basis that you will not suffer another series loss in that brief spell. Back-testing has shown that C bet failures happen occasionally (as expected), but they are widely spread. Use that time spread to recover the money lost in the failed series. Good luck.
Regards
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mitchp (from your post #135 on 10/21):As we all know, you are correct about losing the in-conference road games by more than 3 points ATS (ie spread 5 pts, lose by more than 8 pts).In reviewing the games, <snip> I'm not sure how to handle plays where you have a V1 and V2 overlap. Example is Portland on 10/27, Portland is on a 4 game road trip. First three games is a V2, but games 2-4 is a V1. If I remember the rules, Portland would have to lose the first game by more than 3 points to consider games 2-4 as a V1 game. I am crazy or do you confirm this rule?
So how do we handle these overlaps? My suggestion is this:
If the V2 occurs first you play it as any other V2 series. Then:
If the V2 wins before the V1 kicks in: The V1 is no longer a play due to the requirement for the team to lose the in-conference games. You will win 1 unit (from the V2 series).
If the V2 loses all the bets by more than 3 pts ATS before the V1 kicks in: The V2 series could be discontinued (and a loss accepted; but IMHO not a good idea) or preferably it should be continued as an integral part of the V1 series. When placing the V1 A Bet, you should add the V2 losses plus the V2 unit to the V1 unit to arrive at the V1 A bet win target and take it from there. Ultimately, you should win 2 units.
If the V2 loses all the bets by less than 3 pts ATS before the V1 kicks in: The V1 is no longer a play due to the requirement for the team to lose the in-conference games by more than 3 pts ATS. The V2 series will therefore continue.
So, how do we present these overlaps on the excel spreadsheet?
Well, I would list all V1 and V2 series independantly and delete any V1 series row if and when it is discounted due to the V2 in-conference results. If a V2 is integrated into a V1 series, the V2 row will show a loss at the time of integration, but the bettor can later enter in the row the V2 element of the combined result.
Just my 2 cents....
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Kev, this is is the thing with the V1 vs V2 collison.
Is there any historical PROOF that playing a V1 series after a V2 game which was won at the (a) level, resulted in a loss of the V1 series.
There isn't any. I do not know why this criteria was even introduced...?Comment -
can someone let me know on the simple v1, play out of conf teams 3 in a row, buy three points
what is the record so far?
has there been any c bets?
I saw a minny series lose just curious as I only play the C bets and Im a bit behind so far.
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Wilba, I really don’t know why do you think that it doesn’t matter if you play A, B, C series or just B, C.
Stats from last year are something like this:
V1: 53-2
[A] 31-24
[b] 18-6
[C] 4-2
V2: 28-0
[A] 17-11
[b] 8-3
[C] 3-0
So there was 83 (81-2) series played from A bet. Let’s assume that the average odds are 1.588. It means that if one series loses we lose 18,68u (more or less). Our profit from last year is: 43,64u (81-2*18,68).
Now we don’t play A bets. It means we have 35 (33-2) series to play. One lost series (B and C bets only) is loss of 6,29u. We won 33 series and lost 2 series so profit is 20,42u (33-2*6,29).
Again:
-we play A, B, C series, we gain 43,64u,
-we play B, C series, we gain 20,42u.
Why would you say we should skip all A bets?
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2% of the bankroll
seems im doing it wrong or at least a hell of lot riskier
i started with $350 bank =
($50 A bet)
($100 B bet)
($200 C bet )
so whichever bet wins i just tac the winnings onto whatever is left over then divide by 7 to give me my A,B,C bets for the next game.
any less riskier ways???Comment -
I believe if you start with a low bankroll your gonna win low so if you wanna make some good money id say start with like a 1000 and make 50 dollar bets with it till you hit 2000 then raise it to 100 dollars a bet then so on and so on........
pretty much the way i management my money is for every 500 dollars you got, make 25 dollar bets
i started with 2500 and im making 125 for each bet right now, and im almost on my way to making a 1000 since for every 10 bets im making 1,250 dollars thats good cash yo
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coylo your playing at it with a really high risk since you can loose half of your money with a bad series, now im not here to tell you how to manage your money cause who am i to say how to conserve your money but im just giving you some advice since ive learned the hard way good luck with your bets though2% of the bankroll seems im doing it wrong or at least a hell of lot riskier
i started with $350 bank =
($50 A bet)
($100 B bet)
($200 C bet )
so whichever bet wins i just tac the winnings onto whatever is left over then divide by 7 to give me my A,B,C bets for the next game.
any less riskier ways???Comment -
your input is appreciated bro. i may just play high risk until i reach a point were winnings are good enough to put into a seperate bank if you know what i mean,
keep my bets the same each play but put winnings aside.Comment -
Believe me I know exactly what you mean I'm also planing to have additional bookers,
And i know how it is betting with low money it just seems like you not making enough and it is right it seems like its a waste of time but really any money is better then no money but I would be the same way you are betting, I'd be taking high risk just so I could get on my toes and bet at a comfortable level so keep doing your thang playa and much loveComment -
Hey what the hell guys, there was a request made for information on the past record of the reverse system and I provided information on the record of the reverse system. I did not go out there posting 'reverse' plays as JW has been doing with his plays, nor do I have any intention of posting any plays, I was simply doing whoever asked (i dont recall) a favour by posting last years record for the reverse system. Apart from responding to his request and follow up questions I have only ever discussed proper JM plays. And when people have talked about going against the system and capping it (as has happened a few times) I have always said 'don't go against the system, play it and it will win'
I dont appreciate you making out like I had some other agenda other than to do whoever was asking a favour by providing them info on the reverse record that I happened to have. I never suggested that people play it or suggested that I would be posting plays for it. I thought this forum was about helping each other out and sharing info and thats all I was doing.
And bugger you stevo, with your 'It's funny because as soon as an [A] bet loses, that's when people come in here and start with the 'reverse system,' stuff.' The reason reverse was bought up was coz Jordanfreak was getting dealt bogus lines at betus, and chili told him that if he wana stop being dealt bogus lines by betus then he has to reverse the system for a couple plays then they will start giving him normal lines again. Then someone asks what the reverse record was, and I was nice enough to provide it. I didnt bring any of this crap up so if your bashing me for helping a mate with info then stick it up your ***Comment
