Jesse Jackson

**sneak-a-peak** · 07-13-10, 12:34 AM

Totally agree!

**Ratzz** · 07-13-10, 12:50 AM

Jackson is right.. by NO MEANS is LBJ a slave, but Gilbert's behavior is that of a slave-owner..

he's wrong.. business, LBJ increased his personal wealth by over $250M...

he should show more respect. He had PLENTY of time to acquire a star player to help him..

really he should have thanked him

**brandon m** · 07-13-10, 02:02 AM

Jesse Jackson is a fuckin idiot. To think Gilbert actually views Lebron as his slave is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. Gilbert is pissed because he had been giving Lebron everything he wanted for 5+ years and then Lebron slaps him and takes off to south beach. That team is the team Lebron wanted, you think the 10 story mural was Gilberts idea? Everything cleveland did and for the most part everything Cleveland sports was about Lebron.

I mean they ran Braylon Edwards NFL player out of town for beating up one of Lebrons Posse. Don't get me wrong Edwards is a piece of work, but the straw that broke the camels back was when he ****** with Lebron. And he got run out of town for doing it.

It has nothing to do with race. But people like Jesse Jackson will say anything to get a headline, and this is nothing new.

**rickbo528** · 07-13-10, 07:14 AM

Is there anyone with a functioning brain who would ever listen to a single word spoken by a lowlife POS race hustler like Jesse Jackass?

**SportsPicks3434** · 07-13-10, 11:49 AM

I hope nobody listens to him. He is the only person who makes race an issue with anything.

**oiler** · 07-13-10, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Ratzz

Jackson is right.. by NO MEANS is LBJ a slave, but Gilbert's behavior is that of a slave-owner..

he's wrong.. business, LBJ increased his personal wealth by over $250M...

he should show more respect. He had PLENTY of time to acquire a star player to help him..

really he should have thanked him

i think he has a right to play anywhere he wants and do whatever but he should of shown alot more class in the way he left town.he should never of had that bs special and announce his team,he should of talked tp the cavs owner and said he would like to try and win with another team without stepping on anyones toes,but lebron thinks hes the greatest and can do what he pleases.but u know the old saying YOU DONT SHIT WHERE U EAT.and lecron dropped a big load with this debacle.its going to take a long time[if ever]to get his imace and his fans back but i hope its worth it to him and curious to see how long his mother sticks with west

**BernardMadoff** · 07-13-10, 12:39 PM

I could see Jackson's point. LeBron fulfilled is contract. The owner was totally out of line, why hasnt Gilbert ever acted like that about any other free agent? LeBron owed them nothing, never said he was staying there and bailed out on them, but he has to play for your team for the rest of his life? Thats laughable, basically Gilbert wanted to control LeBron, thats akin to witchcraft, witches try and control people. I dont see why anyone is mad at LeBron, he can do whatever he wants, what if I got mad at the next man for choosing to work where he wants to work, thats silly, what does he owe me....nothing. He owed them nothing, when you get traded or fired in the real world, they dont normally let you know beforehand so he owed them nothing, they knew it was a good chance he would leave so they should have prepared for it.

**SportsPicks3434** · 07-13-10, 07:34 PM

Jesse didnt have a point. he tried to make a racial point as usual but it didnt work. All he does is support the illiterate and support racial tension and thats all he ever does.

**antifoil** · 07-13-10, 09:46 PM

this thread is racist

itt - white people

**stefan084** · 07-14-10, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by antifoil

this thread is racist

itt - white people

explain

**BernardMadoff** · 07-14-10, 01:36 PM

You dont have to be referring to race to use the term slave mentality.

**michalis** · 07-14-10, 01:46 PM

its in the black mans interest to cry racism every now and then, keeps the white man on his toes

**stefan084** · 07-14-10, 01:48 PM

maybe if it was every now and then

**Climate** · 07-14-10, 02:45 PM

A lot of people attack Jesse Jackson with great bitterness at the mention of his name no matter what. The fact is, he brought attention to Dan Gilbert's totally unprofessional, unacceptable behavior. This guy could incite a bunch of yahoos to do something even studpider than Gilbert's letters, and that is actually run out on the court and try to harm James, as has already been done in other sports, so it's not far-fetched. Not only was his letters tasteless and classless, they were bad for business.
Stern fined Gilbert $100,000 to prove my point.

Runaway slave mentality? Ok, that's a good one. Jesse an opportunist? No doubt. But I usually do agree with Jesse in general if not specifically, meaning racism & inequality do still exist. And one more thing-after the hatred and persecution black people have suffered and continue to suffer in this country, exactly who is in a position to judge him? Certainly not some of you guys, who share the same vitriol and intolerance that many of your forebearers did.
I didn't see any of those guys in this thread in outrage when that black dude in Oakland got shot in the back while on the ground by the police officer, and then get 4 years max for it last week. People who get mad with Jackson just hate the fact he brings the ugly side of America to the light.

Was the special a bad idea? Yes, big-time. You won't be seeing any more of those any time soon. Players will be announcing their signings in the dark for quite a while after this one. A little humility wouldn't hurt anyone. I'm there's a lot of stuff LeBron and Gilbert would (hopefully) like to take back from this debacle.

In this case, I give a red nose and size 30 clown shoes to all three.

**SportsPicks3434** · 07-14-10, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by antifoil

this thread is racist

itt - white people

If your an Afeican American that statement makes sense. I am not racist just stating facts. When is the last time Jesse jackson came out and spoke in support of a white person? Let me answer that...NEVER. You only hear from him when he believes a black was wronged by a white and thats a fact. Your comment needs to state Jesse is a racist sir.

**SportsPicks3434** · 07-14-10, 03:08 PM

Plain and simple Mr. jackson supports racial tension with his comments. Its not the white man it people like him who make race an issue every chance he gets. Sorry but its true. has he ever supported a white man in his life? NOPE

**Climate** · 07-14-10, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by SportsPicks3434

Plain and simple Mr. jackson supports racial tension with his comments. Its not the white man it people like him who make race an issue every chance he gets. Sorry but its true. has he ever supported a white man in his life? NOPE

I understand your point, and I would look at inequality and how affects ALL people, not just black people vs white issue. Unfairness is unfairness, plain and simple. But you don't see leaders from other communities being taken to task for not supporting other people.

Does he support racial tension? No, not in my book.

So your point is you think he attacks white people, refuses to support whites who are victimized and incites blacks and the media where it isn't appropriate?

I'm not setting you up, just asking.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 07-14-10, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by SportsPicks3434

If your an Afeican American that statement makes sense. I am not racist just stating facts. When is the last time Jesse jackson came out and spoke in support of a white person? Let me answer that...NEVER. You only hear from him when he believes a black was wronged by a white and thats a fact. Your comment needs to state Jesse is a racist sir.

JJ has come out and supported white people many times. I don't have time to link but he has. Jackson served a purpose many years ago and represented a large segment of the black community. Today it seems he serves his own agenda more and very few people of any color.

He should keep his trap shut on this because he's so far off it's stupid. How many slaves made $100+ Million? How many slave owners spent $25 Million on a sports complex down the street from Lebron's house? Dan Gilbert treated Lebron like a son, giving him whatever, whoever he wanted. He catered to his every whim.

Jackson should have come out and said something about Lebron's actions. He was the one that dissed his city, his people, all for perceived glory.

Jackson should also take care of his illegitimate child and not be a hypocrite.

**brandon m** · 07-14-10, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Jackson should also take care of his illegitimate child and not be a hypocrite.

Go figure a person like Jesse Jackson has an illegitimate child, never would have guessed that in a million years.

**THE HITMAN** · 07-14-10, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by rickbo528

Is there anyone with a functioning brain who would ever listen to a single word spoken by a lowlife POS race hustler like Jesse Jackass?

yes, Al Sharpton

**pronk** · 07-14-10, 06:52 PM

**andywend** · 07-14-10, 06:59 PM

Jackson is right.. by NO MEANS is LBJ a slave, but Gilbert's behavior is that of a slave-owner..

he's wrong.. business, LBJ increased his personal wealth by over $250M... he should show more respect. He had PLENTY of time to acquire a star player to help him..really he should have thanked him

Ratzz, you are every bit the RACIST as Jesse Jackson. There is no difference between you and members of the KKK other than targeting your discrimination against different races of people. YOU ARE A DISGRACE!!!

Now that I'm done ranting, here's the deal with Lebron James:
There is nothing wrong with his decision to leave the city of Cleveland to go play for the Miami Heat or anywhere else. The problem was the way he went about doing it.

The owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers and the entire city of Cleveland honestly thought James was returning to Cleveland up until the moment he announced he chose Miami on that stupid ESPN spectacle.

The city of Cleveland along with the Cavaliers owner gave Lebron James EVERYTHING. They treated him like a God begging pathetically that he stay with the team. When he chose to announce his decision on that ESPN spectacle, I thought for sure he was going back to Cleveland as what kind of person would make that kind of show of stepping on so many people who loved him. The only thing that stopped me from pulling the trigger and wagering heavily on Cleveland being the chosen team was that we are dealing with a 25 year old black man.

No matter how much money "someone like him" is worth, it just doesn't change the personality that was inbred into him.

I admit I expect the worst out of black people until proven otherwise and its fair to say that does indeed make me a racist to some degree. This belief saved me a whole bunch of money this time around and might just save me something far more important in the future.

**BernardMadoff** · 07-14-10, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

JJ has come out and supported white people many times. I don't have time to link but he has. Jackson served a purpose many years ago and represented a large segment of the black community. Today it seems he serves his own agenda more and very few people of any color.

He should keep his trap shut on this because he's so far off it's stupid. How many slaves made $100+ Million? How many slave owners spent $25 Million on a sports complex down the street from Lebron's house? Dan Gilbert treated Lebron like a son, giving him whatever, whoever he wanted. He catered to his every whim.

Jackson should have come out and said something about Lebron's actions. He was the one that dissed his city, his people, all for perceived glory.

Jackson should also take care of his illegitimate child and not be a hypocrite.

But how much money LeBron made is irrelavant, Gilbert called a man a coward after he fulfilled his contractual agreement, James wasnt entitled to stay with Cleveland indefinitely as Gilbert would have one think, that seems like an enslavement type mentality when dealing with LeBron. When has Gilbert berated any other Cleveland free agent for leaving? I cant think of any.

**BernardMadoff** · 07-14-10, 09:26 PM

[quote=andywend;5488591]Ratzz, you are every bit the RACIST as Jesse Jackson. There is no difference between you and members of the KKK other than targeting your discrimination against different races of people. YOU ARE A DISGRACE!!!

Now that I'm done ranting, here's the deal with Lebron James:
There is nothing wrong with his decision to leave the city of Cleveland to go play for the Miami Heat or anywhere else. The problem was the way he went about doing it.

The owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers and the entire city of Cleveland honestly thought James was returning to Cleveland up until the moment he announced he chose Miami on that stupid ESPN spectacle.

The city of Cleveland along with the Cavaliers owner gave Lebron James EVERYTHING. They treated him like a God begging pathetically that he stay with the team. When he chose to announce his decision on that ESPN spectacle, I thought for sure he was going back to Cleveland as what kind of person would make that kind of show of stepping on so many people who loved him. The only thing that stopped me from pulling the trigger and wagering heavily on Cleveland being the chosen team was that we are dealing with a 25 year old black man.

No matter how much money "someone like him" is worth, it just doesn't change the personality that was inbred into him.

I admit I expect the worst out of black people until proven otherwise and its fair to say that does indeed make me a racist to some degree. This belief saved me a whole bunch of money this time around and might just save me something far more important in the future.[/quote]

Interesting.

**antifoil** · 07-14-10, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by SportsPicks3434

If your an Afeican American that statement makes sense. I am not racist just stating facts. When is the last time Jesse jackson came out and spoke in support of a white person? Let me answer that...NEVER. You only hear from him when he believes a black was wronged by a white and thats a fact. Your comment needs to state Jesse is a racist sir.

itt white people that don't know what the word fact means.

you are stupid. fact.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 07-14-10, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by BernardMadoff

But how much money LeBron made is irrelavant, Gilbert called a man a coward after he fulfilled his contractual agreement, James wasnt entitled to stay with Cleveland indefinitely as Gilbert would have one think, that seems like an enslavement type mentality when dealing with LeBron. When has Gilbert berated any other Cleveland free agent for leaving? I cant think of any.

Do you think it mattered to Gilbert what color Lebron was? He would have said the same thing about Larry Bird if he did the same shit Lebron did. Lebron was a member of the Cav's and he didn't even have the decency of talking to anyone in the organization after the team lost. Even an employee of a shit job would give their employer a 2 week notice. Not only did Lebron shit on the Cav's but he shitted on the entire city of Cleveland. Gilberts remarks had nothing to do with Lebron's color nor did it have anything to do with his ability to leave.

Why the hell would Jackson throw color, race, slave crap into this. This was 1 rich guy that spit on an entire franchise and the other rich guy lashing out for all the fans. Lebron started this shit to begin with and Jackson blames Gilbert for reacting to a guy that shitted on him??? Fuk Lebron and Jackson. One's a city baitor and the other is a race baitor

**BernardMadoff** · 07-14-10, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Do you think it mattered to Gilbert what color Lebron was? He would have said the same thing about Larry Bird if he did the same shit Lebron did. Lebron was a member of the Cav's and he didn't even have the decency of talking to anyone in the organization after the team lost. Even an employee of a shit job would give their employer a 2 week notice. Not only did Lebron shit on the Cav's but he shitted on the entire city of Cleveland. Gilberts remarks had nothing to do with Lebron's color nor did it have anything to do with his ability to leave.

Why the hell would Jackson throw color, race, slave crap into this. This was 1 rich guy that spit on an entire franchise and the other rich guy lashing out for all the fans. Lebron started this shit to begin with and Jackson blames Gilbert for reacting to a guy that shitted on him??? Fuk Lebron and Jackson. One's a city baitor and the other is a race baitor

I never said it had anything to do with race. Many times teams dont give a player notice before trading them, Ive heard of players getting the news firsthand on tv just like everyboy else. Bottom line LeBron owed nobody anything, he fulfilled his contractual duties, he was a free agent, therefore there IS a possibility he will seek work somewhere else. How come Gilbert has never responded like this when other Cleveland free agents left?

**Mac4Lyfe** · 07-14-10, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by BernardMadoff

But how much money LeBron made is irrelavant, Gilbert called a man a coward after he fulfilled his contractual agreement, James wasnt entitled to stay with Cleveland indefinitely as Gilbert would have one think, that seems like an enslavement type mentality when dealing with LeBron. When has Gilbert berated any other Cleveland free agent for leaving? I cant think of any.

Originally posted by BernardMadoff

I never said it had anything to do with race. Many times teams dont give a player notice before trading them, Ive heard of players getting the news firsthand on tv just like everyboy else. Bottom line LeBron owed nobody anything, he fulfilled his contractual duties, he was a free agent, therefore there IS a possibility he will seek work somewhere else. How come Gilbert has never responded like this when other Cleveland free agents left?

Your enslavement mentality comment sure is about race???

Yes many players don't get news firsthand about being traded in several sports BUT not the Cav's. They made it a point to let players know when they were being dealt. The Cav's organization has been very transparent with it's people. Mike Brown knew what was coming, Big Z knew they were trading him only to resign last year. They told Larry Hughes and Ben Wallace that they were looking into moving them. It's a courtesy thing. Lebron said many times that the Cav's were his family. Many people, even one's very close to Lebron thought that in the end he would stay in Cleveland. They couldn't believe that he would treat everyone the way he did weeks leading to his decision then leave the team.

I think Gilbert was stunned when Lebron didn't resign. I think he was blindsided like a wife seeing her husband declare a divorce in front of everyone and parading the new wife for all to see. I fully understand why Gilbert reacted the way he did (although I think he should have stayed quiet). Lebron shitted on everybody who stuck by him. Once again it wasn't so much the decision but the way he paraded it around.

Now to your comment about Gilbert and other free agents. Which FA would that be? Gilbert bought the Cav's in 2005 and the only guy who we almost lost was Verajao but the Cav's was able to match other offers, so we don't have any evidence of how he would respond. My guess would be if he spent millions over the cap, millions in luxury tax, bring in players over and over and build a $25 million facility close to another free agents house then he'd be pissed at that guy if he left too. Gilbert is not the bad guy here... I don't think Lebron is a bad guy either but he got some bad advice or a huge head.

**BernardMadoff** · 07-14-10, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Your enslavement mentality comment sure is about race???

Yes many players don't get news firsthand about being traded in several sports BUT not the Cav's. They made it a point to let players know when they were being dealt. The Cav's organization has been very transparent with it's people. Mike Brown knew what was coming, Big Z knew they were trading him only to resign last year. They told Larry Hughes and Ben Wallace that they were looking into moving them. It's a courtesy thing. Lebron said many times that the Cav's were his family. Many people, even one's very close to Lebron thought that in the end he would stay in Cleveland. They couldn't believe that he would treat everyone the way he did weeks leading to his decision then leave the team.

I think Gilbert was stunned when Lebron didn't resign. I think he was blindsided like a wife seeing her husband declare a divorce in front of everyone and parading the new wife for all to see. I fully understand why Gilbert reacted the way he did (although I think he should have stayed quiet). Lebron shitted on everybody who stuck by him. Once again it wasn't so much the decision but the way he paraded it around.

Now to your comment about Gilbert and other free agents. Which FA would that be? Gilbert bought the Cav's in 2005 and the only guy who we almost lost was Verajao but the Cav's was able to match other offers, so we don't have any evidence of how he would respond. My guess would be if he spent millions over the cap, millions in luxury tax, bring in players over and over and build a $25 million facility close to another free agents house then he'd be pissed at that guy if he left too. Gilbert is not the bad guy here... I don't think Lebron is a bad guy either but he got some bad advice or a huge head.

So using the term slave mentality has to be about race? What happens when the same race enslaves its own kind? Bingo, the term doesnt have to be about race. Gilbert's response made no mention about LeBron not telling him he was leaving, but he did call LeBron's actions cowardly for leaving, so it seems to me that the issue isnt about LeBron giving prior indication he was indeed leaving, but rather the fact that he isnt a Cavalier anymore, something is wrong with that picture. He went on to reference his use of the word coward as LeBron not staying with the Cavaliers to win a ring, again something is wrong with that picture, as if LeBron is entitled to stay at a place indefinitely whether he wants to or not, thats a slavelike mentality.

**SportsPicks3434** · 07-15-10, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by antifoil

itt white people that don't know what the word fact means.

you are stupid. fact.

Your statements have proven 2 things to me.

#1. You are a African American who, for some reason has taken offense to factual comments and have provided no intelligent response except to say over and over "White people".

#2. Nevermind.

**SportsPicks3434** · 07-15-10, 03:10 AM

Lets get on Lebron's azz for not being a intelligent "Man" and at least approaching or contacting the owner of the Cavs thanking him for the great time he had in Cleveland and tell him face to face he was not going to return. No, he decided to go on air for an hour and backhand Mr. Gilbert. That is why the words started. Its not hard to figure out people. This whole situation has proven 2 things to me.

First Lebron is a COWARD who has decided to run like a child to Mr. Wade and Mr. Bosh to help him win something he couldnt win.

Second, Mr. Jesse Jackson STILL has no problem promoting racial tension every chance he gets. Poor Lebron....He sure is a rich slave. J. Jackson you are a complete idiot and someday you might layoff the racial dividing. Sorry if slavery was a part of your childhood...leave the past behind and join us in the 20th century idiot.

**antifoil** · 07-15-10, 04:03 AM

what do you think the word fact means?

**Climate** · 07-15-10, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by SportsPicks3434

Second, Mr. Jesse Jackson STILL has no problem promoting racial tension every chance he gets. Poor Lebron....He sure is a rich slave. J. Jackson you are a complete idiot and someday you might layoff the racial dividing. Sorry if slavery was a part of your childhood...leave the past behind and join us in the 20th century idiot.

Put down the coffee dude and try some meditation. I understand how you feel man, nothing riles up Americans like a race debate. Don't take it so seriously, it ain't that big a deal.

One more thing, it's the 21st century we're in now, 20th century ended 10 years ago.

**oiler** · 07-15-10, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Climate

I understand your point, and I would look at inequality and how affects ALL people, not just black people vs white issue. Unfairness is unfairness, plain and simple. But you don't see leaders from other communities being taken to task for not supporting other people.

Does he support racial tension? No, not in my book.

So your point is you think he attacks white people, refuses to support whites who are victimized and incites blacks and the media where it isn't appropriate?

I'm not setting you up, just asking.

ok now u opened up a can of worms,heres a perfect example why jesse jackson is nothing but a racist asshole.a few years back a black guy got arrested for a minor violation and he said that the guy was treated misfairly because he was black and if a white guy did the same ,he would get a slap on the wrist and go on his way.maybe so but what the guy did when he got out thats when jackson big mouth got him in trouble.as the guy got out of jail.and still piswed about being put in there.he found an old table leg and beat this old mans head in until he went unconscious and eventually died and when he got arrest he said that now i got arrested for something.and jesse .the dumbfuck that he is,said it wasnt racially motivated.it was that he was pissed that he got arrested and tried to prove a point,and the point is that this idiot will spend the rest of his life in jail and jesse will continue to defend the black man,even when they are wrong no matter what they do.i have alot more examples of his stupidity but i will be typing for days,