Intersting Ref Stats for Cavs/Celtics GM3

talnted · 05-07-10, 12:23 PM

another reason why im taking the cavs tonight

uanl · 05-07-10, 12:28 PM

excellent info houlihans!

i had just posted on another thread saying how i was starting to doubt my pick of the cavs because of the line move, but i just got the confidence back after reading this

Mikail · 05-07-10, 12:30 PM

Good info. Thanks Houli

lyon804 · 05-07-10, 12:34 PM

Houli,

I got 23-7 S/U on the Cavs combined. and 17-13 combined on Celts.. Zach Zarba is the key though. He is the one that reffed the OKC game at the Garden when Garnett and Rivers called them out for calling fouls like Durant was ' Michael Fukking Jordan"--KG lol..

landers781 · 05-07-10, 12:36 PM

If memory serves right, Salvatore was one of the refs that screwed the celts in boston early in the season when they played the hawks. I remember because someone here had a thread asking who the refs were and pay attention. Let me see if I can find the game and thread

lyon804 · 05-07-10, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by landers781

If memory serves right, Salvatore was one of the refs that screwed the celts in boston early in the season when they played the hawks. I remember because someone here had a thread asking who the refs were and pay attention. Let me see if I can find the game and thread

your memory is spot on landers.. it was 01/11/2010 Celts lost 102-96

uanl · 05-07-10, 12:40 PM

yeah i agree with lyon, i just checked covers .com and theres a few more losses for clevland ... something interesting i saw tho was that all 3 refs have officiated about 70 games and all 3 individually have a losing ATS record for home teams...

HoulihansTX · 05-07-10, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

Houli, I got 23-7 S/U on the Cavs combined. and 17-13 combined on Celts.. Zach Zarba is the key though. He is the one that reffed the OKC game at the Garden when Garnett and Rivers called them out for calling fouls like Durant was ' Michael Fukking Jordan"--KG lol..

I only counted this season. I feel past season results are irrelevant. New players/ new set of orders from up top(Stern)

Snowball · 05-07-10, 12:49 PM

Cavs got all the calls and non-calls the first two games.
will it be just as bad in Boston ? I don't know..
will it determine the winner ? it didn't last game.
Celtics are playing a higher level of ball by far than they did in the regular season.
i looked it over and don't see any glaring red flags
covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/matchups/g5_referees_2.html

gl all

HoulihansTX · 05-07-10, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by uanl

yeah i agree with lyon, i just checked covers .com and theres a few more losses for clevland ...

I only counted this season.

landers781 · 05-07-10, 12:51 PM

Thanks lyon, was searching through the threads. Anyway, here is the recap yahoo had on that game. Talking about 3 T fouls etc. How doc was yelling at Salvatore. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010011102

Celts were favored by 3.5 O/U 198 Celts outscored in 4th 25-16

uanl · 05-07-10, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

I only counted this season.

yeah good point tx..i didnt pay attention to the dates, i agree that past seasons dont matter

stern is cooking up different stuff this year

lyon804 · 05-07-10, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

I only counted this season. I feel past season results are irrelevant. New players/ new set of orders from up top(Stern)

Oh, I gotcha

Thanks!

lyon804 · 05-07-10, 01:03 PM

The stats are nice but none of the Cavs wins were really hard to get, Most were against weak teams anyways, but interesting stat nonetheless. It at least shows those refs are not anti-cavs.

uanl · 05-07-10, 01:08 PM

if i calculated correctly... the celtics are a combined 1-5 at home this year when one of the 3 officials tonight are in the game... while the cavs are 7-1 on the road...

lakerboy · 05-07-10, 01:15 PM

stern has his goons in place

ballinynot · 05-07-10, 01:16 PM

wat does SU mean

uanl · 05-07-10, 01:17 PM

Straight Up ...as in not taking the spread into consideration..

lyon804 · 05-07-10, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

stern has his goons in place

It looks that way, but the line went the other way. If Cavs play again like they have refs can't help them. Interesting to know how it happens... I wish I was a sharp so i would know

shhplit · 05-07-10, 01:33 PM

points to cavs victory!

ron8698 · 05-07-10, 03:43 PM

Go Cavs

THEGREAT30 · 05-07-10, 03:47 PM

good info, don't fool yourself like that does not count, good day

lonegambler · 05-07-10, 04:12 PM

hey tx werent u the one who said crafords game with suns and spurs was an under cause crawfords hates duncan?

Bankroll$10 · 05-07-10, 04:26 PM

I think its absurd to try to pick a game based on the refs. And for people to remember that refs have their favorite teams too

uanl · 05-07-10, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Bankroll$10

I think its absurd to try to pick a game based on the refs. And for people to remember that refs have their favorite teams too

if you pick a game soley based on refs, its kind of "absurd" ...but if you are leaning one way and the refs' track record backs u up, then its an extra incentive....

refs have their favorite teams because stern tells them who their favorite teams are lol

if you don't think that refs influence game outcomes then you are just being ignorant...

uanl · 05-07-10, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by lonegambler

hey tx werent u the one who said crafords game with suns and spurs was an under cause crawfords hates duncan?

i remember someone saying that as well..but someone also said to be careful betting on the spurs in game 2 cuz of crawford and how did that end turn out??

Wilforth · 05-07-10, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Cavs got all the calls and non-calls the first two games.
will it be just as bad in Boston ? I don't know..
will it determine the winner ? it didn't last game.
Celtics are playing a higher level of ball by far than they did in the regular season.
i looked it over and don't see any glaring red flags
covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/matchups/g5_referees_2.html

gl all

True.

THEGREAT30 · 05-07-10, 06:22 PM

Looks like that has some truth to it early in the game, good day

uanl · 05-07-10, 06:25 PM

i just tuned into the game and KG and perkins already have 2 fouls each in a 10point game... refs at work!!

kobefanatic · 05-07-10, 06:26 PM

refs screwing celtics again

HoulihansTX · 05-08-10, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Combined refs stats for Ken Mauer, Bennett Salvatore, and Zach Zarba. Cavs SU record: 18 -1 (OT Loss in Memphis) Celtics SU record: 5 - 9

I dont think the Refs had shit to do with this game.

Its was all LeBron, and a great gameplan by Mike Brown. He put Anthony Parker on Rondo, and it kept Rondo out of the paint. Its no secret Mo Williams is a Shit defender, especially out of the pick and roll. Ray Allen tooled him early, but LeBron put the game away early.

landers781 · 05-08-10, 01:23 AM

I am an idiot for taking celtics here even after spouting how whats his face screwed celts before. Maybe they didnt have an influence, but they should have made me back off.

MadTiger · 05-08-10, 02:28 AM

Cavs put their feet on the Celtics' necks, plain and simple.

uanl · 05-08-10, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

I dont think the Refs had shit to do with this game.

Its was all LeBron, and a great gameplan by Mike Brown. He put Anthony Parker on Rondo, and it kept Rondo out of the paint. Its no secret Mo Williams is a Shit defender, especially out of the pick and roll. Ray Allen tooled him early, but LeBron put the game away early.

i think they had a little to do with it...after the first quarter the game was basically over, but in that first quarter it seemed like the celtics couldn't buy a call, even the fans would sarcastically cheer towards the end when one actually went their way... but even if they woulda called it even from the start, Lebron was on a mission last night...