Hey jqenterprises, any reason why you're not including juice in your unit record?
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i think he mentioned that 1 unit is $50Comment -
You would have to figure out what you bet on and do your math
I dont think i have seen a handicapper put out what the juice is, they are assuming you know what your total is combinedComment -
What? Everybody knows the normal juice is 110 to win 100. So if you win a 2 unit bet you win 2 units, if you lose a 2 unit bet you lose 2.2 units. Most posters include the juice in their unit record, so that it will reflect reality. By ignoring juice, you're inflating your unit record.Comment -
The juice isn't always listed in other players threads, but it should ALWAYS be accounted for in the record. When I don't see it listed I assume it's -110. I always list mine because I play at Pinny with reduced juice.
Nice results so far. I saw the debate over OT above, and I'd suggest dropping the "system" one that records what would have been without OT. What might have been is totally irrelevant to handicappingComment -
Also a good way to figure it out is since u are paying -110 or -115 at times. Just take off that percentage off the units...So if u are up 15.5 units take that times 10-15% and subtract that off the units..It gives a good estimate of what u are upComment -
What i do is list the overall record and the units ahead....So if you go off of that then you will have an idea..Comment -
Also a good way to figure it out is since u are paying -110 or -115 at times. Just take off that percentage off the units...So if u are up 15.5 units take that times 10-15% and subtract that off the units..It gives a good estimate of what u are up.
A good way to figure it out? Why should people have to adjust your record for juice, why don't you include it? That's the normal way posters do it.Comment -
Ive Never seen a handicapper post juice..
They post a record and unit positive or negative...
Some online sites charge -110 , -104,-103 like pinnacle does..
Im not posting juice, its something a sports bettor has to figure out in their own records...
I will be posting record, and whatever units im ahead for the week and dayComment -
Previous poster says they bet w/ pinnacle
Pinnacle has reduced juice... Vegas and most online books charge -110Comment -
I don't mean post juice when you post the plays, I mean adjust for it in your unit record. Most handicappers do that.Comment -
Exactly
If record is 17-9 and u are flat betting then take your losses x 10 Percent
If u are unit betting then you would have to figure it out that way..
No handicapper includes juice, no one, they probably assume you know how to include itComment -
As long as it's accounted for in the record, that's what matters.
That's the point, it's not.Comment -
Cleveland/Orlando
Over 97 WIN 1.5 UnitsComment -
Current Record after 1st game
18-9-2
+17 Units (1-3 Unit System Used)
Example $100 unit better
18 Wins x $100 = $1800
9 Loses x $110 = $990
Profit in 4 days $810Comment -
bettor , excuse the typoComment -
Also im here to post plays and give picks on the stats that i have compiled..Im giving the following
1. Posted Play
2. Results
3. + or - Unit
4. Record
One will have to figure out on their own what they are up according to my units..If you go into your sports account they should give you a list of all your plays that you have made, then you will have to sit down and figure out what you are ahead
If there is a handicapper out that is charging for their services that post the juice in their record please send me the link, until then you will have to figure on your own what you are ahead on my picksComment -
Previous Unit Results
2/16/10 - +12.5 Units
2/17/10 - + 4 Units
2/18/10 - - 1 Unit
2/19/10- +2 Units
2/20/10- -2.5 Units
2/21/10 - +1.5 Unit after Game 1
+ 16.5 Units aheadComment -
Dam, where was i on the 16th n_nComment -
boston / Denver
2nd Half
Under 2.5 Units...WIll post total shortlyComment -
wait John, you posted under before you know the total ?Comment -
I am not trying to argue, nor do I care whether you include juice in your records or not. It is your thread so I am cool with however you want to do it. I just stumbled across it today.
However, i think most cappers do include the juice in their records. Even if it is not most then it is definitely not no one.
keep up the good work
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Boston / Denver
Under 98 2nd half
2.5 UnitsComment -
I post the total if i know what way im going to go...The total on this game was going to be between 97-99...ALSO as previously mentioned i go off of statistics not off of what my opinion is of the game..Being 97 or 98 or 99 will make no difference in my decisionComment -
when betting on 2h totals like this, it is essential that you always get a good #. not much leeway so 1,2, even .5 can make a huge difference at the end of the day.
what your doing here is great. i would suggest to everyone following to open multiple accounts to ensure getting a good lineComment -
I decided to post the way im going to go ahead of the total because there are alot of people that missed on a game last night because if they knew which way i was betting then they could have been prepared and avoided the sudden line movement..but sometimes the line movement is instantaneousComment -
Hey Vick long time...Shoot me an email sometime
Also i have an idea ahead of time of what the line is going to be for the 2nd half , based off the season and how it has gone so far..I know this line would be similar to the 1st game of the day , Orlando was 97 and the totals are very similar so i had a clue on what it would be... I got Under 98 at -115 so i know that if im not quick that line would possibly move to 97.5Comment -
The first point is very lazy, and the second point is just wrong. Do whatever you want, but if you want to be respected as a good capper, stop leaving doubt as to exactly what your record is. The additional effort required on your part is minimal. I have a hard time believing anyone that's supposedly wagering large sums of money and yet unwilling / too lazy to do the record keeping aspect of it.Comment -
you are gonna kill em today jq! dolla dolla bills y'all!Comment -
Suicide
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. There is no doubt on my record , I am going to post the record including overtimes (wins or losses) and i have been Very detailed in regards to it
As far as being lazy on your assumption..Im on the computer from the time i wake up till 2, sometimes 4 in the morning analyzing all the stats and previous days. Every day from the start of the 1st slate of games till the end of the night I am on here posting picks and responding to emails . So I really wouldnt call that being lazy. I post the records, the units and all the results on the post here, so people can see what was wagered on. The results speak for themselves and any real bettor that is making plays based off my picks would know exactly how the juice is determined and the unit juice as wellComment -
i really think this one goes over here jqComment -
Thanks Profit.
Keep posting the positives and as you being the real bettor that you are , know what you are ahead for each day. Please tell me what you understand how the juice works, I would think a man of your mass amounts that you bet would knowComment -
Hey,
Jq your my freaking hero I love the work you've done and your really helping those (like me)get my bankroll back to where it should be
thanks bro.Keep posting!!
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Boston/Denver
2nd half LOSS -2.5 Units
Current Record after 2nd game
18-10-2
+14.5 Units (1-3 Unit System Used)Comment
