Time for the Magic to get rid of Jameer Nelson

ijenpo · 01-16-10, 12:58 AM

You right.. magic haven't been doing as well since he has returned...

shoebox · 01-16-10, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

This guy needs to go. Last year when he got injured the Magic were killing it. The moment he came back in the finals they stank the joint out. This season he got injured and the Magic were on fire without him. My buddies and i have been debating this for weeks and most of us agree he doesnt fit in with there regulars anymore , they are so used to playing without him.He is selfish and takes bad shots and creates little. This very entertaining team is going nowhere this year unless he gets injured. Magic time to get rid of NEeson - make him dissappear

Nelson is solid, it was Van Dummy who brang him back prematurely. The magic really miss Hedo, trying to fill the void with Vince just isnt wokring out. Same thing is happening in San Antonio with Jefferson. Carter and Jefferson havent gelled into form with their squads yet.

mlb · 01-16-10, 01:35 AM

true all dat

Pickem724 · 01-16-10, 01:35 AM

Nelson is total garbage

shoebox · 01-16-10, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by Pickem724

Nelson is total garbage

Its not Nelson its Vince, magic were killing it with nelson till he hurt his shoulder. Inside outside ball is becoming a problem with vince, guy likes to work off the dribble. Not the offense that hes used to, you would think that playing with the best big man would help him...

Durrrr · 01-16-10, 01:44 AM

IMO, J.Williams should be the starting PG, from what I've seen he's contributed far more to the team, and has a lot of experience. Today against the Blazers as soon as WIlliams came on the Magic instantly fought back, then Nelson came back on, and...You know the rest.

lakerboy · 01-16-10, 01:46 AM

I know what you are saying shoe but lee and alston were better. having 2 guys instead of 1. they do miss hedo though running the show in the 4th was huge for them cause no one could guard him at the top of the 3pt line and he would use penetration to fork outside for a three.Carter has been a bum for years cant understand why they got him

lyon804 · 01-16-10, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by shoebox

Its not Nelson its Vince, magic were killing it with nelson till he hurt his shoulder. Inside outside ball is becoming a problem with vince, guy likes to work off the dribble. Not the offense that hes used to, you would think that playing with the best big man would help him...

I partly agree with you shoe. Vince is probably the biggest problem, but Nelson has the Majic in a funk as well.. VC, is a great athlete one of the best ever, but he has never won. He is not a winning player. Just a volume shooter.

lakerboy · 01-16-10, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by Durrrr

IMO, J.Williams should be the starting PG, from what I've seen he's contributed far more to the team, and has a lot of experience. Today against the Blazers as soon as WIlliams came on the Magic instantly fought back, then Nelson came back on, and...You know the rest.

Exactly that is my only point he doesn't fit in here. Even van gundy said redick is there best player right now.

jsmithj88 · 01-16-10, 01:51 AM

they basically traded hedo for VC. i dunno why they did that considering the chemistry the magic had

shoebox · 01-16-10, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Durrrr

IMO, J.Williams should be the starting PG, from what I've seen he's contributed far more to the team, and has a lot of experience. Today against the Blazers as soon as WIlliams came on the Magic instantly fought back, then Nelson came back on, and...You know the rest.

Your basing this off of a small sample size, realize that dogs on a Friday at home are a different animal. Nelson fits fine, and proved that in years past until his injury. Vince is the cancer that needs to find a new home(Europe

) on paper this trade seemed ideal. You cant base that hes not a good player just becuase of one game, or part of a season. Nelson is the best PG on that team hands down. A guy like Odom, Jamison, would be a better fit instead of vince, not to mention you got Van dummy as their coach.

GroundnPound · 01-16-10, 01:54 AM

On a side note gotta love how the commentators on ESPN were harping on about how VC does everything Hedo does only better. The truth is right now I would want Hedo on my team not VC.

shoebox · 01-16-10, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

they basically traded hedo for VC. i dunno why they did that considering the chemistry the magic had

Hedo could give a F about a ring, guys in it for the $$$ like most athletes. Its a business first, championship second to 80% of the guys in the league. Make sure they get paid and are financially set, cant blame them I would do the same thing...

jdhender · 01-16-10, 02:03 AM

ha just seeing this now - funny i was actually saying to someone earlier in the night that he could possibly be the worst nba player to ever be named to an all star team

jdhender · 01-16-10, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by GroundnPound

On a side note gotta love how the commentators on ESPN were harping on about how VC does everything Hedo does only better. The truth is right now I would want Hedo on my team not VC.

hedo over vince for sure and i am a vince fan - hedo made that team unique and created match up problems, they are just another team now

S.K.M. · 01-16-10, 02:05 AM

Vince Carter is a loser. He makes teams worse. He can dunk really good though. Woopty fukkin do. Nelson isn't working out to good either. One thing that is unpredictable and unexplainable in basketball and all sports is chemistry. If you have it never mess with it. Orlando is done they aren't worth a fukk.

GroundnPound · 01-16-10, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by jdhender

hedo over vince for sure and i am a vince fan - hedo made that team unique and created match up problems, they are just another team now

Yep I agree, VC shooting is streaky like Ben Gordon and that is a compliment. Courtney Lee was such a good fit to this team and I think they miss him a lot. I think Magic gets a couple of hot games out of Jameer and use him in a trade.

dimon · 01-16-10, 11:10 AM

Well VC can do pretty much all the thing Hedo can do better, but that when he is his best...otherwise Hedo was a better fit...as for Nelson, I think that they have best guard runnig the show...NBA season is long and I think that we haven't seen Orlando yet...however how can you get 5 points from your "supposed to be best center in the league" center????

shoebox · 01-16-10, 03:54 PM

Magic really are missing hedo

nbakillah · 01-16-10, 05:29 PM

I could not agree more..

i still can't believe that Van Gundy played him in the Finals...
Magic completely man-handled the favored Cavs without him...

why would anyone mess with that...?!?

Van Gundy needed some advice from Belichik...
who stuck with Brady when Bledsoe went down...

and when Bledsoe was healed and ready....
stood on the sidelines while young Brady went all the way
and won the Superbowl...

you would think that a coach of a team called the "Magic"
might understand it more when it actually happens

BernardMadoff · 01-16-10, 05:53 PM

I dont see Nelson as being a problem, he's never been a big assist guy, even with his small stature he's more of a combo guard. I have no idea why they got Vince Carter, his legs have been gone for at least 3-4 years, relies too much on the jump shot and we all know they dont need another jump shooter, the team is filled with them. Rashard Lewis doesnt do what he seems capable of, that being and inside outside game, with his size and versatility, he'd rather stand on the perimeter and shoot jump shots. Same with Pietrus, another athletic guy who can get to the rim, but would rather chuck 3's all day long. They also dont pass the ball to Howard enough. As much as Van Gundy screams, my logic would tell me he has to be screaming for them to get inside the paint more, with their 3 point shooters, you would think they would do more dribble driving, collapse the defense then kick out for the 3, they only do that mostly when they are down. Anderson is a guy who has talent, but shoots too much, tries to make use for his limited minutes, but he hurts the Magic by taking low percentage shots when he could help more on the boards. I surely wouldnt bet on them making it to the finals this year.

KiDBaZkiT · 01-16-10, 06:04 PM

Vince Carter was a terrible pick up. They should of kept Rafer and got rid of Nelson, I thought it worked out better for both IMO.

necro · 01-16-10, 06:30 PM

J-Will when counting in his age and that he did not play for more than one year is more than good player for Magic. And for much less money than Jameer...

shoebox · 04-25-10, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by shoebox

Nelson is solid, it was Van Dummy who brang him back prematurely. The magic really miss Hedo, trying to fill the void with Vince just isnt wokring out. Same thing is happening in San Antonio with Jefferson. Carter and Jefferson havent gelled into form with their squads yet.

Originally posted by shoebox

Its not Nelson its Vince, magic were killing it with nelson till he hurt his shoulder. Inside outside ball is becoming a problem with vince, guy likes to work off the dribble. Not the offense that hes used to, you would think that playing with the best big man would help him...

Originally posted by shoebox

Your basing this off of a small sample size, realize that dogs on a Friday at home are a different animal. Nelson fits fine, and proved that in years past until his injury. Vince is the cancer that needs to find a new home(Europe

) on paper this trade seemed ideal. You cant base that hes not a good player just becuase of one game, or part of a season. Nelson is the best PG on that team hands down. A guy like Odom, Jamison, would be a better fit instead of vince, not to mention you got Van dummy as their coach.

and Vince found his form

shoebox · 04-30-10, 09:23 AM

1st round Jameer went off

msully2888 · 04-30-10, 09:50 AM

hes their leading scorer what are u people talking about hes filthy and hes picking up for d12 who lives on the bench

lakerboy · 04-30-10, 09:54 AM

lets evaluate when the season is over. for the magic that will be when the cavs get rid of them in round 3.

shoebox · 04-30-10, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

lets evaluate when the season is over. for the magic that will be when the cavs get rid of them in round 3.

Thats what im waited for, its free money

shoebox · 05-04-10, 08:05 PM

Grind House · 05-04-10, 08:12 PM

tealish · 05-04-10, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

lets evaluate when the season is over. for the magic that will be when the cavs get rid of them in round 3.

You bet me that Magic will advance to the finals instead of the Cavs?

...which is looking good in your favor btw

chimp · 05-04-10, 08:13 PM

it's obvious. lakerboy = laker fan = magic hater = magic fader

shoebox · 05-04-10, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by tealish

You bet me that Magic will advance to the finals instead of the Cavs?

...which is looking good in your favor btw

hope so got a 2k future @+305

Originally posted by chimp

it's obvious. lakerboy = laker fan = magic hater = magic fader

yisman · 05-04-10, 08:21 PM

I think Cleveland takes out Orlando in the East finals.