Tim Duncan is Out tonight against Toronto.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Best of luck

[lakerboy]

- my bookie just closed it off

[ipickwinners]

guess the guy who has special info on the spurs game tonight didnt get 'that special' info....especially with parker out too

[ipickwinners]

btw is he hurt? or is this just to limit his games? they throwing this game before it starts knowing parker is out as well?

[PAPSMEAR]

line just crunched into 5.5 from 7

[Bluehorseshoe]

Now 4.5

[PAPSMEAR]

is duncan worth a 2.5 change in the spread???

[pattymayo]

duncan in the lineup is worth a 2.5 change in spread IMO. Spurs are garbage.

[ipickwinners]

is duncan worth a 2.5 change in the spread???

fck yes....guy averages a double double....was this a serious question??

[The General]

I wouldn't allow that to figure into my decision at all. I think Toronto is the play.

Best O' Luck, Men


(EDIT) I meant to say San Antonio is the play.

[landers781]

Its at 4 now parker and duncan out .... wow

[BigWoolyMammoth]

it doesnt matter that they are not playing.
I gave you the game. the info i have is priceless on this one.
take toronto and kick yourself later.
BWM warned ya.

[SportsTerminator]

Isn't Parker out too... ouch.

[Capybara]

it doesnt matter that they are not playing.
I gave you the game. the info i have is priceless on this one.
take toronto and kick yourself later.
BWM warned ya.

How can it NOT matter that two of their big three aren't playing??!!

[Lee Jones]

I got it at +7 before i knew Duncan was out weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee even better!!!!

[BigWoolyMammoth]

vegas was not built on people winning money on the obvious.
pay attention to the calls the spurs get tonight guys.
talk to you tuesday.

[poker_dummy101]

[pavyracer]

You guys are so naive. You think the refs will let Spurs lose this game knowing all the Vegas square money is on Toronto?

[BigWoolyMammoth]

pavy, you are smart.

[Lee Jones]

So now we are suppose to bet based on refs rigging the game for the Spurs? Get a clue, clownshoe!

[poker_dummy101]

You guys are so naive. You think the refs will let Spurs lose this game knowing all the Vegas square money is on Toronto?

pavy,

i bet the first quarter on spurs. tell them to rig it then not later in the game.

thanks

[Brakon00]

Where does it say duncan is out for game???? Is this true?

[Brakon00]

found it nevermind: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

[pavyracer]

I would be more concerned with Toronto's non-existent defense. When a good defensive team faces a bad defensive team they will find ways to score.

[yisman]

Where does it say duncan is out for game???? Is this true?

yes.

by the way, Pinnacle's feed:

11/09 11:19 +7 -105 / -7 -105
11/09 11:39 +7 -106 / -7 -104
11/09 11:49 +7 -105 / -7 -105
11/09 12:24 +7 -109 / -7 -101
11/09 12:30 +7 -114 / -7 +104
11/09 13:09 +7 -111 / -7 +101
11/09 13:14 +7 -109 / -7 -101
11/09 14:50 +7 -108 / -7 -102
11/09 15:40 +7 -110 / -7 +100
11/09 15:45 +7 -112 / -7 +102
11/09 15:50 +7 -111 / -7 +101
11/09 16:00 +7 -110 / -7 +100
11/09 17:15 +7 -105 / -7 -105
11/09 17:50 +7 -107 / -7 -103
11/09 19:00 +5 -108 / -5 -102
11/09 19:05 +4½ -114 / -4½ +104
11/09 19:10 +4½ -108 / -4½ -102
11/09 19:15 +4½ -115 / -4½ +105
11/09 19:20 +4 -107 / -4 -103
11/09 19:25 +4 -105 / -4 -105
11/09 19:30 +4 -104 / -4 -106

[Wilforth]

Spurs wins and covers! It's been the tradition. One or two players are out for a team, lines are adjusted against the "shorthanded" team, the public is fooled into fading the "shorthanded" team. Then! The "shorthanded" team wins and the public loses.

Spurs -4

[S.K.M.]

Spurs will not lose to Toronto at home. I would give up the 4. They are very deep and this just gives Hill and Blair a chance to shine. I wouldn't be surprised if they play better without them tonight.

[pavyracer]

Spurs will not lose to Toronto at home. I would give up the 4. They are very deep and this just gives Hill and Blair a chance to shine. I wouldn't be surprised if they play better without them tonight.

[PAPSMEAR]

fck yes....guy averages a double double....was this a serious question??

I think it is an interesting question. How does vegas determine what a particular player is worth versus a change in spread number. Why 2.5 Why not 1? Why not 5? Where do they get the 2.5 (now 3) from initally? Do they pick it out of thin air or do they have a pre-existing number set for the worth of each player if out?

[Brakon00]

so who is everyone taking??? im teasing the game for Over 197 and Raptors + 11 for 100 to win 77 and then taking raptors on moneyline at +210

[Brakon00]

I think it is an interesting question. How does vegas determine what a particular player is worth versus a change in spread number. Why 2.5 Why not 1? Why not 5? Where do they get the 2.5 (now 3) from initally? Do they pick it out of thin air or do they have a pre-existing number set for the worth of each player if out?

its obvious dude...to them reducing it by 2.5 points makes it so more of the public who hasnt wagerd yet to take spurs who have no parker or duncan!!! so they know raptors win this game!!! so obvious or am i missing something?? RAPTORS ON +200 MONEYLINE =

[poker_dummy101]

im on spurs -2 1q already

will ginobli start because of this??

[pattymayo]

Spurs wins and covers! It's been the tradition. One or two players are out for a team, lines are adjusted against the "shorthanded" team, the public is fooled into fading the "shorthanded" team. Then! The "shorthanded" team wins and the public loses.

Spurs -4

agreed. couldn't have said it better myself.

[PAPSMEAR]

this game now has too many variables for anyone to make a serious reasoned judgement on who wins/who covers/over or under...as a matter of policy i stay clear of late injury ravaged games

[corona]

wouldn't surprise me one bit to see a letdown game from toronto, knowing that duncan/parker are out....and for the rest of the spurs to take advantage of the increased playing time to show their stuff. can't be much longer before ginobili starts shooting over 40% from the field and 25% from 3, or jefferson stops playing like michael finley.

example:

http://www.nba.com/games/20090203/SASDEN/boxscore.html

hill/mason/bowen/bonner/thomas nearly won in denver last season. covered the spread, at the very least. parker & duncan were late scratches, iirc.

pop's not gonna let his guys not compete, just because their stars are out.