Help! I'm being robbed by CK and Sexymit!

MonkeyF0cker · 08-08-09, 09:54 AM

Justin,

What pros do you know that have so little regard for market prices? And how could you possibly come to any sort of conclusion such as this with such a small sample size?

Justin7 · 08-08-09, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Justin,

What pros do you know that have so little regard for market prices? And how could you possibly come to any sort of conclusion such as this with such a small sample size?

I agree with your earlier comments, MonkeyFocker.

Someone with less than textbook technique can still beat WNBA like a red-headed stepchild.

Leverage · 08-08-09, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

If it's merely about ego, then why would one be looking to charge for those picks?

I wasn't talking about them in particular. What I was saying was more of a generalization.

Dark Horse · 08-08-09, 10:56 AM

Some of the line movements in WNBA can be pretty big. I may have seen a 6 pt swing for a total.

I don't know much about the WNBA, but if I knew I could easily move the early lines, and hit them hard the other way when it counted, and if I had a few boys on my team, like Justin does ...

Any of you guys related to Bette Midler?

reno cool · 08-08-09, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

There aren't many posters worth paying attention to, but these two are right more than they're wrong. Even a bit deadly at WNBA...

The problem: you're crashing my lines! I bet a lot of the same stuff, but I can't bet until limits go up.

Would you two pick-pockets consider waiting until 11am EST to post your plays (when limits are higher, and everyone can get down more?)

It's just kind of a classless thing to say. And yes people are motivated by things other than money.
Since there are tons of worthless picks here, why complain about those that by your own admission are worthwhile?

Unless this was simply some roundabout compliment

Justin7 · 08-08-09, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by reno cool

It's just kind of a classless thing to say. And yes people are motivated by things other than money.
Since there are tons of worthless picks here, why complain about those that by your own admission are worthwhile?

Unless this was simply some roundabout compliment

It was (I thought) a humorous way to lighten up a serious request.

onthewhat · 08-08-09, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Nobody in their right mind would ever want to be a tout if they knew they could continue to make money in this industry in the future - especially a pompous, over-confident ass like yourself.

They got hot for a month or two, know they can't keep it up, and want to profit off of it while they can. I hope no one signs up for these nit wits tout service. And I hope they go broke for being a tout.

pavyracer · 08-08-09, 12:23 PM

There is still time to sign up for my exclusive premiere soccer service for the upcoming season. I'm a documented 75% or better winner here. I am the one the books fear like the plague.

SexyMit · 08-08-09, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by onthewhat

They got hot for a month or two, know they can't keep it up, and want to profit off of it while they can. I hope no one signs up for these nit wits tout service. And I hope they go broke for being a tout.

Thats a month or 2 hotter then you will ever be! Its not just a month or 2 its been yr after yr consistant winners. More then I have seen you do on this site. I'm here to help and make some money for other people, I'm not trying to be greedy.

jellobiafra · 08-08-09, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by onthewhat

They got hot for a month or two, know they can't keep it up, and want to profit off of it while they can. I hope no one signs up for these nit wits tout service. And I hope they go broke for being a tout.

Why don't you go on back to the kiddie table now. The adults are speaking.

Flying Dutchman · 08-08-09, 01:15 PM

So, these guys are fishing to be touts? I thought the SBR Nazis had a thing about that...

...LIKE taking down obvious adverts on Twitter.

Where's Willie Bee when you need the Gestapo?

JELLYBEAN · 08-08-09, 01:18 PM

Nobody gives a **** about your group or if your getting enough down. This thread just makes you look pathetic. If they have no ties to anyone but themselves then they can bet when and where ever they like. The likes of guys like you make me sick.

Why dont you offer them 5k a week to not bet. That is how the oldtimers did it when there market was getting ruined. Your a big shot, so why dont you just get them on your team. Otherwise just STFU

pavyracer · 08-08-09, 01:20 PM

You douches are confusing sports investment advisers with touts. I have been a sports investment adviser for many years and my record speaks for itself. I want everyone to succeed in making money and this is why my premier soccer picks service will be allowed to open for a small window of time this week for new members wanting to have financial freedom in their life.

SexyMit · 08-08-09, 01:21 PM

We are not touts. We are not doing anything or asking for any money! All we do is post our plays and then get called out. I don't understand why all the hatred. You are in business to make money just like we are. Is it because we have become well noticed for our winning plays, or what? We are not trying to promote anything so you need to go back in the holes you crawled out of and let us make money. Or is it we are giving the plays away for FREE and noone is buying your plays anymore cause they are the same as ours and we are doing it FREE?

Flying Dutchman · 08-08-09, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by SexyMit

We are not touts. We are not doing anything or asking for any money! All we do is post our plays and then get called out. I don't understand why all the hatred. You are in business to make money just like we are. Is it because we have become well noticed for our winning plays, or what? We are not trying to promote anything so you need to go back in the holes you crawled out of and let us make money. Or is it we are giving the plays away for FREE and noone is buying your plays anymore cause they are the same as ours and we are doing it FREE?

So, we have it on record that you are NEVER going to go tout? Always Free?

RoagBettor · 08-08-09, 01:28 PM

Just to make it clear, the Twitter thing was my idea, and when I told CK about it he said he was too busy to even participate.

So if you don't have any facts, STFU.

MrMonkey · 08-08-09, 01:29 PM

Pavy is using this thread as free advertisement! Justin, what time would you like Pavy to post his plays? Look what happened in the German league this morning after a PavyPick! -118 to -200!!! Everybody's robbing Justin silly!

brooks85 · 08-08-09, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

It was (I thought) a humorous way to lighten up a serious request.

thats how i took it..

Leverage · 08-08-09, 01:31 PM

I don't understand why anyone cares if they tout or not. That's not what the op was about.

SexyMit · 08-08-09, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Flying Dutchman

So, we have it on record that you are NEVER going to go tout? Always Free?

You show me the word NEVER in my original statement. It doesn't matter whether we do or not, the point is Justin called us out for no apparent reason. For him being a moderator, I think that is just unprofessional.

pavyracer · 08-08-09, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by MrMonkey

Pavy is using this thread as free advertisement! Justin, what time would you like Pavy to post his plays? Look what happened in the German league this morning after a PavyPick! -118 to -200!!! Everybody's robbing Justin silly!

You tell him MrMonkey. Justin thought I was kidding when I posted a pick last night which I hammered at -150 actually. Then as soon as my email went out to my service subscribers the line dropped all the way to -200 this morning. Justin is not a member of my service and he is jealous why everyone got my pick at -150 and he waited till it was -200 this morning. This is what happens when you don't bet my picks at the time I release the pick. Justin you say you are a pro but you couldn't predict a move of -150 to -200 after I released my pick. Why would I want to wait like you suggest and bet at -200? Justin you are causing my followers thousands of juice dollars with what you want them to do. Justin I beat the closing line by -50 points. Justin get on with the program son!

dwaechte · 08-08-09, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by SexyMit

You show me the word NEVER in my original statement. It doesn't matter whether we do or not, the point is Justin called us out for no apparent reason. For him being a moderator, I think that is just unprofessional.

Holy shit dude, lighten the **** up and work on your reading comprehension.

brooks85 · 08-08-09, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

There aren't many posters worth paying attention to, but these two are right more than they're wrong. Even a bit deadly at WNBA...

The problem: you're crashing my lines! I bet a lot of the same stuff, but I can't bet until limits go up.

Would you two pick-pockets consider waiting until 11am EST to post your plays (when limits are higher, and everyone can get down more?)

I dont see where anyone got called out, thats a compliment in my book. I think everyone responding, who somehow over looked the sarcasm in "you two pick-pockets", made the thread turn bad. There has been many times when I got to the forum late for your guys picks and the line had already moved. You guys keep doing your thing but I think justin has got a point. But, either way now I just hound the thread to make sure I get the picks asap.

Flying Dutchman · 08-08-09, 02:09 PM

You guys continue to miss the point...

!!!! YOU'RE BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF A TINY MARKET BY POSTING EARLY !!!!!

But maybe now that you've been exposed in that you've run cold over the last month or so, maybe the market will calm the fvk down and discount you.

reno cool · 08-08-09, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by SexyMit

You show me the word NEVER in my original statement. It doesn't matter whether we do or not, the point is Justin called us out for no apparent reason. For him being a moderator, I think that is just unprofessional.

it's like they want everyone to post picks, but only poor ones.

Justin should be reprimanded by either the General, professor or Gillagin

SexyMit · 08-08-09, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Flying Dutchman

You guys continue to miss the point...

!!!! YOU'RE BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF A TINY MARKET BY POSTING EARLY !!!!!

But maybe now that you've been exposed in that you've run cold over the last month or so, maybe the market will calm the fvk down and discount you.

We are not Sharps, we are not Touts, why would what we say matter? It is not us that are moving the lines, we just post our plays and that is that. I don't put even 1/8th of the money that Justin does on lines. I'm personally just a recreational bettor, that likes to make money. Well this thread got out of hand, hope everyone has a better weekend. And lets make some money!

Flying Dutchman · 08-08-09, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by reno cool

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it's like they want everyone to post picks, but only poor ones.

Justin should be reprimanded by either the General, professor or Gillagin

You should be reprimanded for your spelling, Gilligan.

MrMonkey · 08-08-09, 02:23 PM

SM, nothing you or CK said here in this thread was out of control! CK has his flair about him and ran with this joke of a story and this is what it has come to! CK would never negotiate in the view of the public! Justin just got tired of watching himself on TV so he started this thread! Good luck and keep doing your thing!

RogueScholar · 08-08-09, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Flying Dutchman

You guys continue to miss the point...

!!!! YOU'RE BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF A TINY MARKET BY POSTING EARLY !!!!!

But maybe now that you've been exposed in that you've run cold over the last month or so, maybe the market will calm the fvk down and discount you.

Again, who cares? It's a free country. Justin says they'll never be admitted into the "boy's club(house)" if they don't acquiesce to the demands he's laid out, but what if that's not their objective? Sounds like both of these guys have good jobs and nice careers and don't have to extract every last little cent out of a "small market" to pay the bills. If this is just another iron in the fire for them, then strong-arming them is the least effective approach available.

I think it's great that they're upsetting the equilibrium of the N=4 club. Only by the introduction of new players into a market will it grow and evolve. This is how the little guys become big guys in an investment vehicle, by getting prices that the big boys can't touch because of the lack of volume. Then they can build their own clubhouse instead of having to join the existing one as a gopher for the "big boys."

rezkoness69 · 08-08-09, 02:33 PM

Why doesn't eveyone do what they want to? Ck and sexy like to post their plays for free on a thread that some of us (including me) thoroughly enjoy, not only for the added money to the bankroll, but also for the pure enjoyment of some of the posts in there. Meanwhile, pavy sells picks, justin likes to predict line movement and so on and so forth. Everyone should just do what they're comfortable with and lets move on. That's the great thing about sports gambling. There are so many stats, and trends, and systems and market edges. Everyone finds whichever way works best for them and brings them the most satisfaction and then they fukin place a bet. To point fingers at people and to try telling people what they can and what they can't do is utterly useless.

Flying Dutchman · 08-08-09, 02:42 PM

Well, I certainly don't want to be in YOUR "clubhouse". Ha!

SexyMit · 08-08-09, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by RogueScholar

Again, who cares? It's a free country. Justin says they'll never be admitted into the "boy's club(house)" if they don't acquiesce to the demands he's laid out, but what if that's not their objective? Sounds like both of these guys have good jobs and nice careers and don't have to extract every last little cent out of a "small market" to pay the bills. If this is just another iron in the fire for them, then strong-arming them is the least effective approach available.

I think it's great that they're upsetting the equilibrium of the N=4 club. Only by the introduction of new players into a market will it grow and evolve. This is how the little guys become big guys in an investment vehicle, by getting prices that the big boys can't touch because of the lack of volume. Then they can build their own clubhouse instead of having to join the existing one as a gopher for the "big boys."

In other words... We want to be Leaders not Followers!

pavyracer · 08-08-09, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by rezkoness69

Why doesn't eveyone do what they want to? Ck and sexy like to post their plays for free on a thread that some of us (including me) thoroughly enjoy, not only for the added money to the bankroll, but also for the pure enjoyment of some of the posts in there. Meanwhile, pavy sells picks, justin likes to predict line movement and so on and so forth. Everyone should just do what they're comfortable with and lets move on. That's the great thing about sports gambling. There are so many stats, and trends, and systems and market edges. Everyone finds whichever way works best for them and brings them the most satisfaction and then they fukin place a bet. To point fingers at people and to try telling people what they can and what they can't do is utterly useless.

I don't sell picks. I'm asking for a small monthly symbolic fee to join my mail list.

MonkeyF0cker · 08-08-09, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by RogueScholar

Again, who cares? It's a free country. Justin says they'll never be admitted into the "boy's club(house)" if they don't acquiesce to the demands he's laid out, but what if that's not their objective? Sounds like both of these guys have good jobs and nice careers and don't have to extract every last little cent out of a "small market" to pay the bills. If this is just another iron in the fire for them, then strong-arming them is the least effective approach available.

I think it's great that they're upsetting the equilibrium of the N=4 club. Only by the introduction of new players into a market will it grow and evolve. This is how the little guys become big guys in an investment vehicle, by getting prices that the big boys can't touch because of the lack of volume. Then they can build their own clubhouse instead of having to join the existing one as a gopher for the "big boys."

Who's upset? My whole point was that Justin was completely far too complimentary. These guys aren't sharp. They play bad numbers, overpay on buying points, tease sides and totals, and have no way to quantify any edge they may think they have. As I've said before, there is a pretty good liklihood that they end the season in the red.

RoagBettor · 08-08-09, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Who's upset? My whole point was that Justin was completely far too complimentary. These guys aren't sharp. They play bad numbers, overpay on buying points, tease sides and totals, and have no way to quantify any edge they may think they have. As I've said before, there is a pretty good liklihood that they end the season in the red.

How much you want to bet? Put your money where your mouth is.