Not 1, Not 2, Not 3......

[BigDofBA]

4 NBA Finals losses.

He is lucky the Spurs choked away a 5 point lead in the final 20 seconds and Ray Allen hit a desparation three or he would be 1-5.....

[jtoler]

Wonder if guy fathomed when he said that that he'd have 3 NBA finals losses in 5 years.

[jtoler]

Nobody comparing to Jordan anymore hmm funny how that works, just a week ago 50% saying he's greatest ever.

[BigDofBA]

Wonder if guy fathomed when he said that that he'd have 3 NBA finals losses in 5 years.

He is very, very lucky he isn't 1-5 while playing with essential All-Star teams in three of those.

He will get a pass for this year but when you put together teams with Super Stars and you're supposed to be comparable to Jordan, you need to at least be .500.

Jordan was 6-0. Lebron 2-4.

Can we just say he is a top five player of all-time but no another Jordan?

[survive]

4 NBA Finals losses.

He is lucky the Spurs choked away a 5 point lead in the final 20 seconds and Ray Allen hit a desparation three or he would be 1-5.....

Yeah definitely lucky to even have two due to Ray Allen. Spurs were easily the better team in that series, 2014 confirmed it

[jtoler]

He is very, very lucky he isn't 1-5 while playing with essential All-Star teams in three of those.

He will get a pass for this year but when you put together teams with Super Stars and you're supposed to be comparable to Jordan, you need to at least be .500.

Jordan was 6-0. Lebron 2-4.

Can we just say he is a top five player of all-time but no another Jordan?

Maybe Top 5 numbers wise, on paper, when you see him play I can't say top 5.

[play4win]

lebum is mvp in failing in the finals. i think he got the worst % in finals!
there you go the greatest player of all time.

[BigDofBA]

Maybe Top 5 numbers wise, on paper, when you see him play I can't say top 5.

Yeah, I agree but he will put up a lot more numbers.

I keep saying he isn't on Jordan's or even Kobe's level and people call me a hater.....

I swear some of these Lebron fanboys have to be like 19-21 year olds and never even saw Jordan play other than highlights.

[kingdom]

Who's Kobe?? Jordan wasn't even that washed up in his 40s with the wizards

[BigDofBA]

Lebron is physically more gifted than Jordan. He is a freak of nature.

With that said, Jordan was a better pure basketball player, the most clutch player ever, and had a killer instinct and drive to win like none other.

He would will his teammate to win. Kobe had similar intangibles but don't take that the wrong way. I'm not comparing him to MJ.

[pronk]

He is very, very lucky he isn't 1-5 while playing with essential All-Star teams in three of those.

He will get a pass for this year but when you put together teams with Super Stars and you're supposed to be comparable to Jordan, you need to at least be .500.

Jordan was 6-0. Lebron 2-4.

Can we just say he is a top five player of all-time but no another Jordan?

Oh, just stifle yourself, would you...

[play4win]

He is very, very lucky he isn't 1-5 while playing with essential All-Star teams in three of those.

He will get a pass for this year but when you put together teams with Super Stars and you're supposed to be comparable to Jordan, you need to at least be .500.

Jordan was 6-0. Lebron 2-4.

Can we just say he is a top five player of all-time but no another Jordan?

no , definitely not top 5 , after this loss maybe top 15. remember only 2 wins in 6 try. thats 30% and a big failure.

[kingdom]

Larry Bird played with two hall of famers plus danny ainge Cedric Maxwell and bill Walton DJ etc and still only won 3. Because mike won 6 and Kobe won 5(2 without 3 times finals MVP shaquille o'Neal) idiots pretend it's easy. While you try and kill lebrons rep I will kill your ignorance

[BigDofBA]

Oh, just stifle yourself, would you...

LOL. That made me chuckle.

[kingdom]

Not to mention Kobe once won 24 games in a full season and is responsible for all Lakers playoff misses in last 30 years wow

[olamide]

Funny thing is as good as Lebron is, his game doesn't wow me. With Jordan, Magic, Kobe you see those wow moments most with the way they drive, lift, dribbles, lead but with Lebron i see aggressiveness most times. Which is why even if he wins 8 championship, i wouldn't rate him above Jordan(just my opinion). Jordan was a joy to watch and read the game far better than him. Lebron is like a machinery who can do everything on the court but .......

[BigDofBA]

Because mike won 6 and Kobe won 5(2 without 3 times finals MVP shaquille o'Neal) idiots pretend it's easy. While you try and kill lebrons rep I will kill your ignorance

Exactly. It's not easy and MJ won 6 and Kobe won five.

You're proving my point.

Lebron can't get it done and Michael got it done everytime. There is really no comparison. Lebron isn't even close to being the greatest of all time.

[BigDofBA]

Not to mention Kobe once won 24 games in a full season and is responsible for all Lakers playoff misses in last 30 years wow

All-time greats aren't made in the regular season.

Greats are made when it matters most and that is where Lebron fails the most.

[4TH AND STUPID]

Except. .. Jordan lost 7 times in the first round and got swept 4 times in the first round ....... Yall must've forgot lmaooo

[4TH AND STUPID]

Jordan didn't do fukk all until his team was surrounded by first round picks aka pippin grant and defensive player of the year and even then you guys forgot about Paxson miracle shot otherwise jordan would've been even worse

[4TH AND STUPID]

Oh did I mention the bulls won 57 games after jordan left and got to round 2


Where did miami go after lebron left... where did Cleveland go after lebron left... how did Cleveland go from one of the worst on the east to the finals with lebron and some bum ex knicks .... the real Impact of lebron can be seen when u see how shit his teams become without him...


Jordan was on a stacked team

[jtoler]

Oh did I mention the bulls won 57 games after jordan left and got to round 2


Where did miami go after lebron left... where did Cleveland go after lebron left... how did Cleveland go from one of the worst on the east to the finals with lebron and some bum ex knicks .... the real Impact of lebron can be seen when u see how shit his teams become without him...


Jordan was on a stacked team

Now the handle makes sense.

[LearningTree]

All the crazy stats...the drama...the hype...and it all adds up to just another loss in the Finals. All empty bullshit.

[BigDofBA]

Oh did I mention the bulls won 57 games after jordan left and got to round 2


Where did miami go after lebron left... where did Cleveland go after lebron left... how did Cleveland go from one of the worst on the east to the finals with lebron and some bum ex knicks .... the real Impact of lebron can be seen when u see how shit his teams become without him...


Jordan was on a stacked team

LMAO.

I got a kick out of your logic by comparing Miami of recent years to this year considering Wade was hobbled all year and Bosh was injured.

HAHHA

All of the other stuff is irrelevant. Jordan 6-0 in the Finals. Lebron 2-4.

How old are you? 17?

[Eddy Munny]

This butthurt OKC fan obviously can't let go of the past.

Insists he's not a Lebron hater, yet all I see him do is hate on Lebron.

Somebody must have put a gun to his head and made him start this thread, poor guy.

And he just loves pointing out that Ray Allen hit a big shot in game 6 of the 2013 Finals, as if that somehow puts an asterisk in the history books. Yep, the Heat won four games out of seven, but since Lebron didn't hit each and every shot, it doesn't count.

That Heat title must have chapped his ass almost as bad as the previous year's, when his precious Thunder got bitch slapped.

[4TH AND STUPID]

LMAO.

I got a kick out of your logic by comparing Miami of recent years to this year considering Wade was hobbled all year and Bosh was injured.

HAHHA

All of the other stuff is irrelevant. Jordan 6-0 in the Finals. Lebron 2-4.

How old are you? 17?

How is the strength of the team you play on irrelevant doofus?

Obviously if your team is weaker than the opponent you are going to lose... why should that discount one special player bringing his team that far to begin with ?

Your logic is fukin retarded

[olamide]

Oh did I mention the bulls won 57 games after jordan left and got to round 2


Where did miami go after lebron left... where did Cleveland go after lebron left... how did Cleveland go from one of the worst on the east to the finals with lebron and some bum ex knicks .... the real Impact of lebron can be seen when u see how shit his teams become without him...


Jordan was on a stacked team

I don't blame you kid. Not all was priviledged to watch Jordan play. Keep watching your boy Lebron, hopefully one day he will develop Jordan's all round BB skills which includes KILLER INSTINCT.

[4TH AND STUPID]

LMAO.

I got a kick out of your logic by comparing Miami of recent years to this year considering Wade was hobbled all year and Bosh was injured.

HAHHA

All of the other stuff is irrelevant. Jordan 6-0 in the Finals. Lebron 2-4.

How old are you? 17?

Miami was fighting for 8th seed even when wade and Bosh were healthy.

Wrong again doofus

[4TH AND STUPID]

I don't blame you kid. Not all was priviledged to watch Jordan play. Keep watching your boy Lebron, hopefully one day he will develop Jordan's all round BB skills which includes KILLER INSTINCT.

The same killer instinct that got him swept 4 times in the first round and had him lose 3 years in a row in the first round to Detroit ?

[4TH AND STUPID]

Michael Jordan swept by bucks in first round..... swept by Celtics in first round .... swept by Celtics again first round.... the lost to Detroit in 5 second round lost to Detroit in 6 second round ...then lost to Detroit a third time even with pippin and grant then finally won on a miracle jumpshot by John Paxsons... ... then jordan leaves and they go 55-27 without him in fact giving them more wins then 8 seasons with him ...... Jordan comes back they lose again in the second round in 5 games.... then they add defensive player of the year Dennis Rodman and magically win the title again with Steve Kerr Tony kukoc scottie pippin etc etc....... Chicago was a complete team and he had scottie pippin every time he won and always had the best defensive player in the nba whether grant or Rodman. So go home doofus cuz jordan without his team got kicked out of the second round or earlier 8 times in his careeer

[BigDofBA]

It's funny watching these guys try to defend Lebron.

They never acknowledge his failures when it matters most in the Finals. Then they reference shit that doesn't matter like how the Heat did this year without Lebron. LMAO

I said Lebron was a top five player in this very fvcking thread but it's not enough.

You're really going to compare a guy to Jordan that has bolted twice in his career to team up with two other superstars only to have a 2-4 record in the Finals? This is good stuff.

[BigDofBA]

Michael Jordan swept by bucks in first round..... swept by Celtics in first round .... swept by Celtics again first round.... the lost to Detroit in 5 second round lost to Detroit in 6 second round ...then lost to Detroit a third time even with pippin and grant then finally won on a miracle jumpshot by John Paxsons... ... then jordan leaves and they go 55-27 without him in fact giving them more wins then 8 seasons with him ...... Jordan comes back they lose again in the second round in 5 games.... then they add defensive player of the year Dennis Rodman and magically win the title again with Steve Kerr Tony kukoc scottie pippin etc etc....... Chicago was a complete team and he had scottie pippin every time he won and always had the best defensive player in the nba whether grant or Rodman. So go home doofus cuz jordan without his team got kicked out of the second round or earlier 8 times in his careeer

Do you even know what you're saying?

So first round playoffs series and the regular season hold more weight than what you do in the Finals?

Are you saying Lebron is better than Jordan?

All I'm saying is that Lebron isn't comparable to Jordan because Jordan never failed on the biggest of stages. WTF are you saying?

[jtoler]

How is the strength of the team you play on irrelevant doofus?

Obviously if your team is weaker than the opponent you are going to lose... why should that discount one special player bringing his team that far to begin with ?

Your logic is fukin retarded

How can you say this yet say MJ lost to Piston and Celts over and over but not acknowledge those were stacked teams. Does weaker teams only apply to Bron.

[Eddy Munny]

The Lebron haters are the ones always bringing up Jordan.

BDBA, you say he's top five, but that's obviously not your focus. Your focus is on Lebron's perceived shortcomings, hence the title of this thread. And I've lost count on the number of times you mention Ray Allen's shot and how Lebron's lucky and yada, yada, yada. It borders on obsessive compulsive disorder levels. Maybe reminding yourself that Lebron "should" be 1-5 is your personal daily affirmation.

I'll take "Things Thunder fans say to get through the day" please, Alex, for $200.

[BigDofBA]

How can you say this yet say MJ lost to stacked Piston and Celts teams. Does weaker teams only apply to Bron.

He doesn't know what he is saying. He is trying to find an angle to take shots at Michael Jordan so he is bringing up things Jordan did the first few years of his career which are pretty irrelevant to the discussion.

He has nothing to stand on with Jordan being 6-0 in the Finals while Lebron is 2-4 so he is desperate to look up meaningless stats.

I could bring up Lebron getting bounced in the second round of the playoffs numerous times early in his career but I don't need to really dig up shit to build my case. I have watched both guys play. The Celtics made Lebron completely disappear in the playoffs.