2014-15 John Morrison NBA Thread

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  • Kev the Brit
    SBR MVP
    • 10-25-09
    • 2027

    #246
    Originally posted by miczz14
    sup kev, great work!

    do you mind updating the record for every V?
    See Post #248. I do it every week. Please read the thread..
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    • Kev the Brit
      SBR MVP
      • 10-25-09
      • 2027

      #247
      Morrison 12/6 Results & 12/7 Plays

      12/6 Results
      (Covers.com)
      Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped- Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

      Currently Published Morrison System
      (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
      7.35pm #43 V3 Philadelphia: A Bet filtered out - MEP injured
      10.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/7

      Morrison 1-7-5 System
      (ATS all bets)
      7.35pm #43 V3 Philadelphia: A Bet won 1 unit
      10.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/7
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      12/7 Plays
      (All times EST)

      Currently Published Morrison System
      (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
      3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
      6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
      6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet to win 1 unit Lost SU in conference on 12/5 (qualified for V1)
      7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet to win 1 unit MEP possibly injured. Bettor to check before tip-off
      9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

      Morrison 1-7-5 System
      (ATS all bets)
      3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
      6.05pm #37 V2 Oklahoma City: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
      6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
      6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet to win 1 unit Lost heavily ATS in conference on 12/5 (qualified for V1)
      7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet to win 1 unit
      9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Upcoming Plays (12/8)

      Currently Published Morrison System:
      Scheduled:
      None
      Possible:
      7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount

      Morrison 1-7-5 System:
      Scheduled:
      None
      Possible:
      7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Results to Date (11/1 - 12/6)
      Completed Series

      Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +31.00 units

      Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +110.00 units

      Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

      * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
      Last edited by Kev the Brit; 12-08-14, 03:31 AM.
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      • Kev the Brit
        SBR MVP
        • 10-25-09
        • 2027

        #248
        Morrison Results & Profit/Loss Statement to Date: 11/1 - 12/6

        Currently Published Morrison System:
        3 point buy all bets @ odds -185/1.54

        V1
        Series scheduled: 19
        Series filtered out: 4 (#1, #26: won preceding road game in conference; #13, #14: worst road teams)
        Series completed: 14 (#41 in progress)
        Series stopped: 0
        Completed series results:
        A Bets: 10-4
        B Bets: 4-0
        C Bets: 0-0
        Unit P/L:
        14 series won = +14.00 (14 ATS, 0 PB)
        0 series stopped = -00.00
        0 series lost = -00.00
        V1 Total P/L = +14.00 units

        V2
        Series scheduled: 9
        Series filtered out: 2 (#9: worst road team; #31: MEP injured)
        Series completed: 6 (#42 in progress)
        Series stopped: 0
        Completed series results:
        A Bets: 3-3
        B Bets: 3-0
        C Bets: 0-0
        Unit P/L:
        6 series won = +6.00 (4 ATS, 1 ML - would have won series ATS, 1 PB[poss])
        0 series stopped = -00.00
        0 series lost = -00.00
        V2 Total P/L = +6.00 units

        V3
        Series scheduled: 15
        Series filtered out: 3 (#19: worst road team; #40 & #43 MEP injured )
        Series completed: 11 (#39 in progress)
        Series stopped: 0
        Completed series results:
        A Bets: 8-3
        B Bets: 3-0
        C Bets: 0-0
        Unit P/L:
        11 series won = +11.00 (10 ATS, 1 PB - would have won series ATS)
        0 series stopped = -00.00
        0 series lost = -00.00
        V3 Total P/L = +11.00 units

        All Versions Summary
        Series scheduled: 43
        Series filtered out: 9 (see above)
        Series complete: 31 (3 series in progress)
        Series stopped: 0
        Completed series results:
        A Bets: 21-10
        B Bets: 10-0
        C Bets: 0-0
        Unit P/L:
        31 series won = +31.00 (28 ATS, 1 ML- would have won series ATS, 2 PB[poss] - would have won 1 series ATS)
        0 stopped = -00.00
        0 series lost = -00.00

        Currently Published Morrison System Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 12/6: +31.00 units
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        Morrison 1-7-5 System
        All bets ATS @ odds -110/1.91

        Series scheduled: 43
        Series filtered out: 3 (#1, #26, #36: Didn't heavily lose previous in-conf game)
        Series completed: 36 (#37, #39, #41 & #42 in progress)
        Completed series results:
        A: 23-13. 23 series won @ 1 unit = +23.00 units
        B: 11-2. 11 series won @ 7 units = +77.00 units
        C: 2-0. 2 series won @ 5 units = +10.00 units; 0 series lost @ -26.52 units = -00.00 units. C Bet sub total = +10.00 units
        Unit P/L:
        A Bets: + 23.00
        B Bets: + 77.00
        C Bets: + 10.00
        Morrison 1-7-5 System Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 11/29: +110.00 units
        ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        The next comprehensive Morrison statement for the season so far will be posted on Sun 12/14
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        • njb5572
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-29-12
          • 126

          #249
          Wallco,
          Was curious when you backtested JM's system a year or so ago if you ever broke it down to the win percentages of the A, B and C bets? If so, would you be willing to share? I am basically wanting to know if it would be profitable to just bet the B and C bets of JM 1-7-5 at 5 to 10% of your bankroll, similar to what is being done in Grinder's thread.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #250
            Wallco NBA Chase 110
            2014-15 System to Date: 17-0 (fin. series)
            Systemprofit/loss: +17.00 units (fin. series)
            Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

            (12/7/14):
            #16 Detroit (+10) (C) - Win
            #18 Miami (+8) (A) - Loss

            v1 Plays
            (A) 9-9
            (B) 3-5

            (C) 3-2
            (D) 2-0
            Losses: None



            There are no system plays for (12/8/14):
            #18 Resumes (B) on 12/9/14



            We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #251
              Originally posted by njb5572
              Wallco,
              Was curious when you backtested JM's system a year or so ago if you ever broke it down to the win percentages of the A, B and C bets? If so, would you be willing to share? I am basically wanting to know if it would be profitable to just bet the B and C bets of JM 1-7-5 at 5 to 10% of your bankroll, similar to what is being done in Grinder's thread.
              Playing the (A) bets is the most profitable.
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              • Kev the Brit
                SBR MVP
                • 10-25-09
                • 2027

                #252
                Morrison 12/7 Results & 12/8 Plays

                12/7 Results
                (Covers.com)
                Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

                Currently Published Morrison System
                (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/8
                6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/9
                6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/9
                7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet (MEP played) won 1 unit (PB)
                9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet won 1 unit (ATS)

                Morrison 1-7-5 System
                (ATS all bets)
                3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/8
                6.05pm #37 V2 Oklahoma City: C Bet lost 26.52 units
                6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/9
                6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/9
                7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/9
                9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet won 5 units
                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                12/8 Plays
                (All times EST)

                Currently Published Morrison System
                (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

                Morrison 1-7-5 System
                (ATS all bets)
                7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                Upcoming Plays (12/9)

                Currently Published Morrison System:
                Scheduled:
                9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                #46 V2 New York. Series filtered out: worst road team
                Possible:
                None

                Morrison 1-7-5 System:
                7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                8.05pm #46 V2 New York: A Bet to win 1 unit
                9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                Possible:
                None
                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                Results to Date (11/1 - 12/7)
                Completed Series

                Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +33.00 units

                Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +88.48 units

                Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

                * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
                Last edited by Kev the Brit; 12-09-14, 03:05 AM.
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                • syrosete
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-14-14
                  • 20

                  #253
                  den should win or it would cause alot having bet c lose in a row
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                  • njb5572
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-29-12
                    • 126

                    #254
                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                    Playing the (A) bets is the most profitable.
                    Do you have a win% for these (A) bets? Why then are the (B) and (C) bets weighted so heavily if it is the (A) bets that have the highest win%?
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                    • JAnthony
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-25-13
                      • 635

                      #255
                      Originally posted by njb5572
                      Do you have a win% for these (A) bets? Why then are the (B) and (C) bets weighted so heavily if it is the (A) bets that have the highest win%?
                      Because that is how you get back your money, when those A bets lose.
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                      • njb5572
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 01-29-12
                        • 126

                        #256
                        Originally posted by JAnthony
                        Because that is how you get back your money, when those A bets lose.
                        If you just wanted to get your money back the chase would not be weighted as such. The weighting to me implies that the (B) and (C) bets win at a higher percentage. I understand why we weight the (A) bets so minimally (minimizes the size of the potential chase thereafter) but if the (A) bets are winning at a high percentage 60%+ then maybe looking into straight betting the (A) bets at say 5 to 10% of your BR then chasing ONLY the (B) and (C) would also be profitable and less risky? (might also be less rewarding)

                        None of these questions can be answered without historical win% which is why I asked wallco in the first place. If he is unwilling to share, that's fine, just trying to build on and possibly improve the masterpiece that you all have already created. No harm intended
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                        • JAnthony
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-25-13
                          • 635

                          #257
                          Originally posted by njb5572
                          If you just wanted to get your money back the chase would not be weighted as such. The weighting to me implies that the (B) and (C) bets win at a higher percentage. I understand why we weight the (A) bets so minimally (minimizes the size of the potential chase thereafter) but if the (A) bets are winning at a high percentage 60%+ then maybe looking into straight betting the (A) bets at say 5 to 10% of your BR then chasing ONLY the (B) and (C) would also be profitable and less risky? (might also be less rewarding)

                          None of these questions can be answered without historical win% which is why I asked wallco in the first place. If he is unwilling to share, that's fine, just trying to build on and possibly improve the masterpiece that you all have already created. No harm intended
                          You know that that 1-7-5 system is only one variation of the main system? And it's sole purpose is to get higher return, not to be conservative. Play the other two, if you have doubts about 1-7-5.
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                          • JAnthony
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-25-13
                            • 635

                            #258
                            And Wallco actually never said that (A) bets hit at higher rate. He said that "it's the most profitable", which does not necessarily mean that it hits at the highest rate. It might as well hit a bit lower rates, but with much bigger sample size, which would ultimately be way more profitable than hitting 60% among 10 games (just an example).
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                            • takethepnts
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-18-13
                              • 581

                              #259
                              I don't post often, have been following Wallco's amazing work for sometime now. Believe me when I say, He knows his shit and has done his homework. It's a good question your asking, But the way Wallco is running it has come with years of insight beforehand. I'm sure he has the historical data, But always remember, What occurred in the past 2-3 seasons (or even further back) guarantees nothing in the future seasons. It only acts as a guide. Sometimes a not to accurate guide. He is posting it in a way he has found will maximize our profits MOST of the time. NO one knows how to Maximize profits ALL of the time, that's impossible. Have an amazing week folks, and thanks as always for running another great system Wallco. Cheers!
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                              • takethepnts
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-18-13
                                • 581

                                #260
                                Thanks ALSO Bigtime to Kev the Brit for his work listing the Morrison and 1-7-5.Much appreciated to BOTH of you fine gentleman!
                                Originally posted by takethepnts
                                I don't post often, have been following Wallco's amazing work for sometime now. Believe me when I say, He knows his shit and has done his homework. It's a good question your asking, But the way Wallco is running it has come with years of insight beforehand. I'm sure he has the historical data, But always remember, What occurred in the past 2-3 seasons (or even further back) guarantees nothing in the future seasons. It only acts as a guide. Sometimes a not to accurate guide. He is posting it in a way he has found will maximize our profits MOST of the time. NO one knows how to Maximize profits ALL of the time, that's impossible. Have an amazing week folks, and thanks as always for running another great system Wallco. Cheers!
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                                • njb5572
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 01-29-12
                                  • 126

                                  #261
                                  Have been following for years now as well, and have the utmost respect for the key players in this thread. Never meant to cause a stir, was just asking a couple questions to provoke further thought into our betting strategies. Criticizing someone for asking questions will not get anyone anywhere.

                                  I'll go back to my hole and shut the hell up.
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                                  • takethepnts
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-18-13
                                    • 581

                                    #262
                                    Hey bro. My reply wasn't a shot. Just simply stating my opinion on how I see the systems being operated. Questions 'intelligent questions' such as yours is never a bad thing.I simply stated Wallco has VERY likely checked your questions angle. Have a super day!
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                                    • Kev the Brit
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-25-09
                                      • 2027

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by njb5572
                                      I'll go back to my hole and shut the hell up.
                                      Anyone who provides food for thought is always welcome here.
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                                      • njb5572
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-29-12
                                        • 126

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                        Anyone who provides food for thought is always welcome here.
                                        Thanks Kev, that was my sole intent.
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by njb5572
                                          Do you have a win% for these (A) bets? Why then are the (B) and (C) bets weighted so heavily if it is the (A) bets that have the highest win%?
                                          Because a system loss, with too heavy of a bet early on in series, could result in a VERY LARGE loss amount for that series. It's 26.52 units per loss the way I do it now. This only requires 3 1/2 (B) bet wins or 5 1/2 (C) bet wins to make money back for each loss. The (A) bets are just the gravy that slowly add up. I tested four bet strategies at once, and 1-7-5 unfiltered prevailed.
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                                          • Kev the Brit
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-25-09
                                            • 2027

                                            #266
                                            Morrison 12/8 Results & 12/9 Plays

                                            12/8 Results
                                            (Covers.com)
                                            Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

                                            Currently Published Morrison System
                                            (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                                            7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet won 1 unit (ATS)

                                            Morrison 1-7-5 System
                                            (ATS all bets)
                                            7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet won 5 units
                                            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                            12/9 Plays
                                            (All times EST)

                                            Currently Published Morrison System
                                            (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                                            9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                            9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                                            #46 V2 New York. Series filtered out: worst road team

                                            Morrison 1-7-5 System
                                            (ATS all bets)
                                            7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                                            8.05pm #46 V2 New York: A Bet to win 1 unit
                                            9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                            9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                                            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                            Upcoming Plays (12/10)

                                            Currently Published Morrison System:
                                            Scheduled:
                                            7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
                                            Possible:
                                            10.35pm #44 V1 Miami: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

                                            Morrison 1-7-5 System:
                                            Scheduled:
                                            7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
                                            Possible:
                                            8.05pm #45 V2 Portland: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                            8.35pm #46 V2 New York: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                                            10.35pm #44 V1 Miami: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                            Results to Date (11/1 - 12/8)
                                            Completed Series

                                            Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +34.00 units

                                            Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +93.48 units

                                            Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

                                            * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
                                            Last edited by Kev the Brit; 12-10-14, 03:24 AM.
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                                            • Brundle99
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-23-10
                                              • 295

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                                              Because a system loss, with too heavy of a bet early on in series, could result in a VERY LARGE loss amount for that series. It's 26.52 units per loss the way I do it now. This only requires 3 1/2 (B) bet wins or 5 1/2 (C) bet wins to make money back for each loss. The (A) bets are just the gravy that slowly add up. I tested four bet strategies at once, and 1-7-5 unfiltered prevailed.
                                              Hi Wallco,

                                              I like the way the 1-7-5 is going!, is there a minimum bankroll you would recommend to be able to use this method?, mine is currently $955 at the moment.

                                              Thanks
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #268
                                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                2014-15 System to Date: 17-0 (fin. series)
                                                Systemprofit/loss: +17.00 units (fin. series)
                                                Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

                                                v1 Plays
                                                (A) 9-9
                                                (B) 3-5

                                                (C) 3-2
                                                (D) 2-0
                                                Losses: None



                                                Games for (12/9/14):
                                                #18 Miami (+5) @ Phoenix (B) (9:05 pm EST)
                                                #19 Sacramento @ L.A. Lakers (M/L) (A) (10:35 pm EST)
                                                #20 San Antonio @ Utah (**) (A) (9:05 pm EST)

                                                ** Denotes line not available at time of post.


                                                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


                                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
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                                                • njb5572
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-29-12
                                                  • 126

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by Brundle99
                                                  Hi Wallco,

                                                  I like the way the 1-7-5 is going!, is there a minimum bankroll you would recommend to be able to use this method?, mine is currently $955 at the moment.

                                                  Thanks
                                                  .5% to 1% of your entire BR is probably about as large as you want to get but it is solely up to you. As wallco just stated, one loss is roughly 26.5 units, meaning on any given loss using a 1% unit you will lose a quarter of your bankroll. Keep in mind there will be days where there could be 3-5 chases going on at any one time so you will want to make sure you have enough in the bank to cover all chases.
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                                                  • njb5572
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-29-12
                                                    • 126

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                    Because a system loss, with too heavy of a bet early on in series, could result in a VERY LARGE loss amount for that series. It's 26.52 units per loss the way I do it now. This only requires 3 1/2 (B) bet wins or 5 1/2 (C) bet wins to make money back for each loss. The (A) bets are just the gravy that slowly add up. I tested four bet strategies at once, and 1-7-5 unfiltered prevailed.
                                                    If the (A) bets are historically profitable on their own why include them in the chase?

                                                    Separate the (A) bets completely from the chase (betting them at a certain percentage or unit) to avoid a heavy chase loss, and only chase the (B) and (C) bets. Would that not maximize profits while reducing a chase loss?

                                                    Again, this is just an idea, I do not know if this would work as I have not been given visibility to the (A) bet win %. I am not asking for handouts, just trying to further what we are doing here.
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                                                    • Andy3568
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-17-10
                                                      • 615

                                                      #271
                                                      Should Utah be postponed? They can potentially be the opponent for Miami's "D" bet.
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                                                      • Kev the Brit
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-25-09
                                                        • 2027

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Andy3568
                                                        Should Utah be postponed? They can potentially be the opponent for Miami's "D" bet.
                                                        In this circumstance I believe Wallco postpones the 2nd starter until the other series is complete. Our biggest risk then is a possible loss of 1 unit. So, yes, I will pass on Utah until the Miami series is complete.
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by njb5572
                                                          If the (A) bets are historically profitable on their own why include them in the chase?

                                                          Separate the (A) bets completely from the chase (betting them at a certain percentage or unit) to avoid a heavy chase loss, and only chase the (B) and (C) bets. Would that not maximize profits while reducing a chase loss?

                                                          Again, this is just an idea, I do not know if this would work as I have not been given visibility to the (A) bet win %. I am not asking for handouts, just trying to further what we are doing here.
                                                          I'm not sure. Test it and let me know. Until then, unfiltered 1-7-5 is the MOST PROFITABLE strategy at the current time.
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                                                          • Wallco99
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-01-11
                                                            • 7261

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by Andy3568
                                                            Should Utah be postponed? They can potentially be the opponent for Miami's "D" bet.
                                                            Utah is not postponed. Utah would only be on their (B) bet during Miami (D) bet. Had both teams been a (D) bet, then yes, we would wait on Utah series. Even though I have a tendency to suspend series with dueling (D) bets, you really don't have to, since one team is M/L and one team gets points. System grades all series since backtest had no way of knowing when these series occurred.
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                                                            • njb5572
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-29-12
                                                              • 126

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                              I'm not sure. Test it and let me know. Until then, unfiltered 1-7-5 is the MOST PROFITABLE strategy at the current time.
                                                              Sure I would love to Wallco but I would also like to avoid reinventing the wheel... If you are unwilling to help that's fine, the reason I asked the question in the first place is not to disprove any ONE individuals optimal betting strategy but to advance it. We would not be where we are today without YOU and several others in here, but I also realize that not a single one of us is as smart as the collective group which is WHY I asked this question on this open forum!
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                                                              • Kev the Brit
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-25-09
                                                                • 2027

                                                                #276
                                                                Morrison 12/9 Results & 12/10 Plays

                                                                12/9 Results
                                                                (Covers.com)
                                                                Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

                                                                Currently Published Morrison System
                                                                (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                                                                9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet won 1 unit (ATS)
                                                                9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet won 1 unit (ATS)
                                                                #46 V2 New York. Series filtered out: worst road team

                                                                Morrison 1-7-5 System
                                                                (ATS all bets)
                                                                7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: B Bet won 7 units
                                                                8.05pm #46 V2 New York: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/10
                                                                9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet won 5 units
                                                                9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet won 7 units
                                                                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                12/10 Plays
                                                                (All times EST)

                                                                Currently Published Morrison System
                                                                (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                                                                7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit

                                                                Morrison 1-7-5 System
                                                                (ATS all bets)
                                                                7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
                                                                8.35pm #46 V2 New York: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                                                                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                Upcoming Plays (12/11)

                                                                Currently Published Morrison System:
                                                                Scheduled:
                                                                None
                                                                Possible:
                                                                None

                                                                Morrison 1-7-5 System:
                                                                Scheduled:
                                                                None
                                                                Possible:
                                                                None
                                                                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                Results to Date (11/1 - 12/8)
                                                                Completed Series

                                                                Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +36.00 units

                                                                Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +112.48 units

                                                                Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

                                                                * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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                                                                • Wallco99
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-01-11
                                                                  • 7261

                                                                  #277
                                                                  ***
                                                                  Last edited by Wallco99; 12-10-14, 08:30 AM.
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                                                                  • Wallco99
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                                    • 7261

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                                    2014-15 System to Date: 20-0 (fin. series)
                                                                    Systemprofit/loss: +20.00 units (fin. series)
                                                                    Current open series: 0

                                                                    (12/9/14):
                                                                    #18 Miami (+4) (B) - Win
                                                                    #19 L.A. Lakers (M/L) (A) - Win
                                                                    #20 Utah (+9) (A) - Win

                                                                    v1 Plays
                                                                    (A) 11-9
                                                                    (B) 4-5

                                                                    (C) 3-2
                                                                    (D) 2-0
                                                                    Losses: None



                                                                    There are no system plays for (12/10/14)



                                                                    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                                    Last edited by Wallco99; 12-11-14, 12:39 AM.
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                                                                    • Andy3568
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-17-10
                                                                      • 615

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                      Utah is not postponed. Utah would only be on their (B) bet during Miami (D) bet. Had both teams been a (D) bet, then yes, we would wait on Utah series. Even though I have a tendency to suspend series with dueling (D) bets, you really don't have to, since one team is M/L and one team gets points. System grades all series since backtest had no way of knowing when these series occurred.
                                                                      Thanks for the clarification. I seem to remember your original description where we only bet competing "A" bets and skip all others, but I may be remembering it wrong.
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                                                                      • Wallco99
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                                        • 7261

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by Andy3568
                                                                        Thanks for the clarification. I seem to remember your original description where we only bet competing "A" bets and skip all others, but I may be remembering it wrong.
                                                                        I kind of changed that over the years but never corrected it in the rules. System has always counted all games, but whether or not we played all was discretionary.
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