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  • Kev the Brit
    SBR MVP
    • 10-25-09
    • 2027

    #596
    Originally posted by imotiv8
    Lakers C vs Washington JM V1C hmmmmm
    This is difficult. By chance, Washington has a further road game (D Bet) after tonight. The Lakers series is only constrained by the amount of money a bettor wants to risk, so they can both go beyond the normal limits. So, there are 3 choices:
    1. Pass on both bets and play their next games as the next bets in their series. This means that 1 of the teams will be playing an unnecessary bet, but at the usual stake.
    2. Play both games and take the loser to an additional bet, but at an increased stake. If the Lakers lose, it will be a regular D Bet for those of us who got a push, so not an unacceptable position.

    Option 1 has no guarantee of a win. Option 2 guarantees at least 1 winner, but there is the possibility of a huge loss with the loser of tonight's bet.

    3. Pass on both, do not proceed and accept the accrued losses on both teams.

    An additional, "off-piste" solution would be to play Washington on the ML and LA on the spread. A 9 point spread is a large enough tolerance to achieve a win for both sides....

    GL guys, whatever you choose.
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    • thekoreanmang
      SBR MVP
      • 03-17-14
      • 1422

      #597
      Originally posted by Kev the Brit
      This is difficult. By chance, Washington has a further road game (D Bet) after tonight. The Lakers series is only constrained by the amount of money a bettor wants to risk, so they can both go beyond the normal limits. So, there are 3 choices:
      1. Pass on both bets and play their next games as the next bets in their series. This means that 1 of the teams will be playing an unnecessary bet, but at the usual stake.
      2. Play both games and take the loser to an additional bet, but at an increased stake. If the Lakers lose, it will be a regular D Bet for those of us who got a push, so not an unacceptable position.

      Option 1 has no guarantee of a win. Option 2 guarantees at least 1 winner, but there is the possibility of a huge loss with the loser of tonight's bet.

      3. Pass on both, do not proceed and accept the accrued losses on both teams.

      An additional, "off-piste" solution would be to play Washington on the ML and LA on the spread. A 9 point spread is a large enough tolerance to achieve a win for both sides....

      GL guys, whatever you choose.
      Thanks for breaking out the options. Very helpful.
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      • Wallco99
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-01-11
        • 7261

        #598
        The option that was om1tted is actually the proper option. Since both plays are ATS plays, play Washington to WIN 9.18 units instead of the standard 15.01. If Washington wins, bet Lakers next game on their normal (D) bet amount. If Lakers win, both series are over at that point.
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        • spankmythighs
          SBR MVP
          • 01-26-10
          • 2884

          #599
          Wallco chase is 45-0. I know which one to follow. Nuff said.
          sbr
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          • spankmythighs
            SBR MVP
            • 01-26-10
            • 2884

            #600
            Haha actually 46-0.
            sbr
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            • skyscrapers
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-02-11
              • 6158

              #601
              That was close for those shitty Lakers. Blows a 19 point lead but manages to cover. Still perfect 47-0!!
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              • Wallco99
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-01-11
                • 7261

                #602
                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                2014-15 System to Date: 47-0 (fin. series)
                System Profit/Loss: +47.00 units (fin. series)
                Current Open Series: 0

                (1/27/15):
                #43 L.A. Lakers (+8½) (C) - Win

                v1 Plays
                (A) 19-28
                (B) 15-13

                (C) 7-5
                (D) 5-0
                Losses: None


                Games for (1/28/15):
                #48 Dallas (**) @ Houston (A) (8:05 pm EST)

                ** Denotes line not available at time of post.


                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                System rules and backtest can be found in posts #52 & #53.
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                • Kev the Brit
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-25-09
                  • 2027

                  #603
                  Morrison 1/27 Results & 1/28 Plays

                  Note: 1-7-5 System Rules are available here (Post #97)

                  1/27 Results
                  (Covers.com)
                  Legend/Abbreviations/Definitions: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet did not win but series continues.
                  lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.
                  Lose heavily ATS - lose by more than 3 points ATS

                  Currently Published Morrison System
                  (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                  10.30pm #99 V1 Chicago: A Bet won 1 unit (ATS)

                  Morrison 1-7-5 System
                  (ATS all bets)
                  10.30pm #94 V1 Washington: C Bet lost
                  10.30pm #99 V1 Chicago: A Bet won 1 unit
                  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  1/28 Plays
                  (All times EST)

                  Currently Published Morrison System
                  (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                  7.00pm #97 V1 Portland: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                  7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  8.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  8.30pm #102 V2 Charlotte: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  9.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit

                  Morrison 1-7-5 System
                  (ATS all bets)
                  7.00pm #97 V1 Portland: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                  7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  8.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  8.30pm #102 V2 Charlotte: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  9.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
                  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  Upcoming Plays (1/29)

                  Currently Published Morrison System:
                  Scheduled:
                  None
                  Possible:
                  None

                  Morrison 1-7-5 System:
                  Scheduled:
                  None
                  Possible:
                  None
                  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  Results to Date (11/1 - 1/27)
                  Completed Series

                  Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +78.00 units

                  Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +39.36 units

                  Please refer to Post #579 for detailed stats for the season so far: 11/1 to last Saturday 1/24. Detailed stats will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

                  * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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                  • hagball52
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 3053

                    #604
                    Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                    This is difficult. By chance, Washington has a further road game (D Bet) after tonight. The Lakers series is only constrained by the amount of money a bettor wants to risk, so they can both go beyond the normal limits. So, there are 3 choices:
                    1. Pass on both bets and play their next games as the next bets in their series. This means that 1 of the teams will be playing an unnecessary bet, but at the usual stake.
                    2. Play both games and take the loser to an additional bet, but at an increased stake. If the Lakers lose, it will be a regular D Bet for those of us who got a push, so not an unacceptable position.

                    Option 1 has no guarantee of a win. Option 2 guarantees at least 1 winner, but there is the possibility of a huge loss with the loser of tonight's bet.

                    3. Pass on both, do not proceed and accept the accrued losses on both teams.

                    An additional, "off-piste" solution would be to play Washington on the ML and LA on the spread. A 9 point spread is a large enough tolerance to achieve a win for both sides....

                    GL guys, whatever you choose.
                    One more option which was the riskiest of all was to parlay Washington M/L and Lakers pointspread which I did and got very lucky. Don't plan on that happening very often but it did reduce my risk.
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                    • imotiv8
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-28-09
                      • 890

                      #605
                      Has anyone kept up with TheLimits 1-7-5 units? I got off track a couple of weeks ago but I believe his system is performing the best right now because it helped avoid a few losses
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                      • Kev the Brit
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-25-09
                        • 2027

                        #606
                        Originally posted by imotiv8
                        Has anyone kept up with TheLimits 1-7-5 units? I got off track a couple of weeks ago but I believe his system is performing the best right now because it helped avoid a few losses
                        I have tracked it daily throughout the season. It only avoided 1 1-7-5 loss in recent weeks: Series #85 Lakers. All the other 1-7-5 system losses passed the A Bet stop (they didn't lose narrowly ATS). Consequently, the 1-7-5 Filtered stands at 11.08 units profit.
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                        • Kev the Brit
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-25-09
                          • 2027

                          #607
                          Originally posted by Wallco99
                          The option that was om1tted is actually the proper option. Since both plays are ATS plays, play Washington to WIN 9.18 units instead of the standard 15.01. If Washington wins, bet Lakers next game on their normal (D) bet amount. If Lakers win, both series are over at that point.
                          Isn't that the equivalent of playing both against each other at their respective stages of their series (my Option 2), except that you bet only to win the difference between the 2 targets? I've studied your numbers and I can't get to a Washington target of 9.18 units, so could you take time out to show me how you got there? I obviously know about the standard 15.01 target for Washington, and I know that you had Lakers showing an Open Series loss of 3.41 units, after the B Bet, which I agree with. But from there on?

                          We now know the result, but I'm interested in your theory for future use, if needed.
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #608
                            Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                            Isn't that the equivalent of playing both against each other at their respective stages of their series (my Option 2), except that you bet only to win the difference between the 2 targets? I've studied your numbers and I can't get to a Washington target of 9.18 units, so could you take time out to show me how you got there? I obviously know about the standard 15.01 target for Washington, and I know that you had Lakers showing an Open Series loss of 3.41 units, after the B Bet, which I agree with. But from there on?

                            We now know the result, but I'm interested in your theory for future use, if needed.
                            You're right, my fault. It should have been 10.18 units bet on Washington, not 9.18. I had another (A) bet for another system for 1 unit on Lakers yesterday. My play was 9.18, the JM should have been 1 higher for everybody else. I quoted it directly from my spreadsheet without thinking about my other canceled bet. Since nobody in there right mind would have played Washington (C) bet yesterday on the M/L for -425 odds, and since that is not how the system was designed anyway, my 1 unit error ended up saving 1.1 units for whomever followed my strategy. Wrong but lucky.
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                            • Kev the Brit
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-25-09
                              • 2027

                              #609
                              Morrison 1/28 Results & 1/29 Plays

                              Note: 1-7-5 System Rules are available here (Post #97)

                              1/28 Results
                              (Covers.com)
                              Legend/Abbreviations/Definitions: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet did not win but series continues.
                              lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.
                              Lose heavily ATS - lose by more than 3 points ATS

                              Currently Published Morrison System
                              (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                              7.00pm #97 V1 Portland: A Bet won 1 unit (PB)
                              7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: B Bet lost. C Bet 1/30
                              7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: A Bet lost. B Bet 1/30
                              8.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: A Bet won 1 unit (PB)
                              8.30pm #102 V2 Charlotte: A Bet won 1 unit (ATS)
                              9.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: A Bet won 1 unit (ML/PB)

                              Morrison 1-7-5 System
                              (ATS all bets)
                              7.00pm #97 V1 Portland: A Bet lost. B Bet 1/30
                              7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: B Bet lost. C Bet 1/30
                              7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: A Bet lost. B Bet 1/30
                              8.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: A Bet lost. B Bet 1/30
                              8.30pm #102 V2 Charlotte: A Bet won 1 unit
                              9.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: A Bet lost. B Bet 1/30
                              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                              1/29 Plays
                              (All times EST)

                              Currently Published Morrison System
                              (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                              None

                              Morrison 1-7-5 System
                              (ATS all bets)
                              None
                              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                              Upcoming Plays (1/30)

                              Currently Published Morrison System:
                              Scheduled:
                              7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                              7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
                              Possible:[/I]
                              None

                              Morrison 1-7-5 System:
                              Scheduled:
                              7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                              7.30pm #97 V1 Portland: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                              7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                              8.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                              8.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                              Possible:
                              None
                              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                              Results to Date (11/1 - 1/28)
                              Completed Series

                              Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +82.00 units

                              Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +40.36 units

                              Please refer to Post #579 for detailed stats for the season so far: 11/1 to last Saturday 1/24. Detailed stats will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

                              * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #610
                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                2014-15 System to Date: 47-0 (fin. series)
                                System Profit/Loss: +47.00 units (fin. series)
                                Current Open Series: 1 (-1.10 units)

                                (1/28/15):
                                #48 Dallas (+3½) (A) - Loss

                                v1 Plays
                                (A) 19-29
                                (B) 15-13

                                (C) 7-5
                                (D) 5-0
                                Losses: None


                                There are no system plays for (1/29/15):
                                #48 Resumes (B) on 1/30/15


                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                System rules and backtest can be found in posts #52 & #53.
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                                • swordsandtequila
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-23-12
                                  • 9756

                                  #611
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                                  • chickndinner
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-27-15
                                    • 259

                                    #612
                                    Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                    Wallco chase is 45-0. I know which one to follow. Nuff said.
                                    LOL, even a monkey with a dart board can guess it right in 4 tries, this system is a joke
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                                    • Wallco99
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #613
                                      Originally posted by chickndinner
                                      LOL, even a monkey with a dart board can guess it right in 4 tries, this system is a joke
                                      Then it sounds like you should do well.
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                                      • CJ
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-21-13
                                        • 1261

                                        #614
                                        Originally posted by chickndinner
                                        LOL, even a monkey with a dart board can guess it right in 4 tries, this system is a joke
                                        Which is why it's +47 units on the season? Is there a bottom to the well of stupidity you drink from?
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                                        • Kev the Brit
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-25-09
                                          • 2027

                                          #615
                                          Morrison 1/29 Results & 1/30 Plays

                                          Note: 1-7-5 System Rules are available here (Post #97)

                                          1/29 Results
                                          (Covers.com)
                                          Legend/Abbreviations/Definitions: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet did not win but series continues.
                                          lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.
                                          Lose heavily ATS - lose by more than 3 points ATS

                                          Currently Published Morrison System
                                          (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                                          None

                                          Morrison 1-7-5 System
                                          (ATS all bets)
                                          None
                                          ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                          1/30 Plays
                                          (All times EST)

                                          Currently Published Morrison System
                                          (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
                                          7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts - MEP questionable
                                          7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount - MEP questionable

                                          Morrison 1-7-5 System
                                          (ATS all bets)
                                          7.30pm #93 V2 Sacramento: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                          7.30pm #97 V1 Portland: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                                          7.30pm #98 V1 Sacramento: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                                          8.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                                          8.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
                                          ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                          Upcoming Plays (1/31)

                                          Currently Published Morrison System:
                                          Scheduled:
                                          None
                                          Possible:
                                          7.00pm #98 V1 Sacramento: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

                                          Morrison 1-7-5 System:
                                          Scheduled:
                                          None
                                          Possible:
                                          7.00pm #98 V1 Sacramento: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                          7.00pm #100 V2 Dallas: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                          8.30pm #97 V1 Portland: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                          9.00pm #101 V3 LA Clippers: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
                                          ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                          Results to Date (11/1 - 1/29)
                                          Completed Series

                                          Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +82.00 units

                                          Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +40.36 units

                                          Please refer to Post #579 for detailed stats for the season so far: 11/1 to last Saturday 1/24. Detailed stats will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

                                          * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
                                          Last edited by Kev the Brit; 01-30-15, 04:13 AM.
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                                          • njb5572
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-29-12
                                            • 126

                                            #616
                                            Speaking of searching for a bottom.. I am interested to hear how people are playing 1-7-5 tonight as we are in the midst of a 100 unit downswing.. temper or double our bets?! ha..
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                                            • alexknyc
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-22-11
                                              • 861

                                              #617
                                              Originally posted by njb5572
                                              Speaking of searching for a bottom.. I am interested to hear how people are playing 1-7-5 tonight as we are in the midst of a 100 unit downswing.. temper or double our bets?! ha..
                                              I'm playing it the way it should be played. It's a system.
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #618
                                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                2014-15 System to Date: 47-0 (fin. series)
                                                System Profit/Loss: +47.00 units (fin. series)
                                                Current Open Series: 1 (-1.10 units)

                                                v1 Plays
                                                (A) 19-29
                                                (B) 15-13

                                                (C) 7-5
                                                (D) 5-0
                                                Losses: None


                                                Games for (1/30/15):
                                                #48 Dallas (M/L) @ Miami (B) (8:05 pm EST)
                                                #49 Sacramento (**) @ Cleveland (A) (7:35 pm EST)

                                                ** Denotes line not available at time of post.


                                                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                System rules and backtest can be found in posts #52 & #53.
                                                Last edited by Wallco99; 01-30-15, 10:21 AM.
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                                                • Wallco99
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-01-11
                                                  • 7261

                                                  #619
                                                  Originally posted by alexknyc
                                                  I'm playing it the way it should be played. It's a system.
                                                  I am with Alex on this one. Finish any open series the way you started it. But I am seriously considering fading the rest of the series this year starting with the 2/1/15 games. I made the switch last year and ended up 56 units ahead when the actual system took a -180 unit shit.
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                                                  • njb5572
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-29-12
                                                    • 126

                                                    #620
                                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                    I am with Alex on this one. Finish any open series the way you started it. But I am seriously considering fading the rest of the series this year starting with the 2/1/15 games. I made the switch last year and ended up 56 units ahead when the actual system took a -180 unit shit.
                                                    Yeah, I understand it is a system. I have been betting systems for years but like wallco mentioned, and as I am sure you are well aware, systems have huge upswings and downswings..

                                                    We cannot predict where this system will go in the future.. I am just curious if anyone was changing their betting strategies at this point.
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                                                    • chickndinner
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 01-27-15
                                                      • 259

                                                      #621
                                                      One loss with this system and your entire years worth of work is gone. Money Line everytime there is a favorite, really? LOL at this system big time. There is nothing like chasing a team 4 times at -200+ odds if they are a heavy favorites in a majority of their games. This system might be more appealing if it was not taking money lines at such high juice and was not a 4 game series. I see it is doing well this year and thats wonderful but I can assure you this system will take a 4 game loss and all 45-units are wiped out in just that. There is no money management that is wise in any way about this system. These are all my opinions and I am not trying to bash on Wallyco and I do give the guy props for taking his time to list this system at no cost to all of us but you all are putting your bankroll at extreme risk chasing a 4 game series at stupid odds
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                                                      • Wallco99
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                        • 7261

                                                        #622
                                                        Originally posted by chickndinner
                                                        One loss with this system and your entire years worth of work is gone. Money Line everytime there is a favorite, really? LOL at this system big time. There is nothing like chasing a team 4 times at -200+ odds if they are a heavy favorites in a majority of their games. This system might be more appealing if it was not taking money lines at such high juice and was not a 4 game series. I see it is doing well this year and thats wonderful but I can assure you this system will take a 4 game loss and all 45-units are wiped out in just that. There is no money management that is wise in any way about this system. These are all my opinions and I am not trying to bash on Wallco and I do give the guy props for taking his time to list this system at no cost to all of us.
                                                        Then skip it if you don't like it. Yes, it is that simple!
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                                                        • chickndinner
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-27-15
                                                          • 259

                                                          #623
                                                          I agree and I don't play it, just to much risk. I am only stating my opinion and again it's just one opinion. I do think it's pretty cool though that you take the time to post and do the things you do at no cost to us, that itself is pretty cool but still a 4 game series chase is extremely risky and not wise. Maybe consider doing this system without any of the money lines, everything at 1.10 and not so many games, say a 2 or 3 game max chase at 1.10 would be much safer for ones bankroll. Keep up the work wallco, it is very considerate that you take the time to do what you do in the first place.
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                                                          • Wallco99
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-01-11
                                                            • 7261

                                                            #624
                                                            Originally posted by chickndinner
                                                            I agree and I don't play it, just to much risk. I am only stating my opinion and again it's just one opinion. I do think it's pretty cool though that you take the time to post and do the things you do at no cost to us, that itself is pretty cool but still a 4 game series chase is extremely risky and not wise. Maybe consider doing this system without any of the money lines, everything at 1.10 and not so many games, say a 2 or 3 game max chase at 1.10 would be much safer for ones bankroll. Keep up the work wallco, it is very considerate that you take the time to do what you do in the first place.
                                                            I have been doing extensive backtesting for the last month to try to eliminate the M/L plays. That has always been an issue of mine as well, but the M/L plays ended up netting the highest returns overall. Hopefully all M/L plays will be eliminated by next season, and if time permits, by after all star break.
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                                                            • CJ
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-21-13
                                                              • 1261

                                                              #625
                                                              Originally posted by chickndinner
                                                              I agree and I don't play it, just to much risk. I am only stating my opinion and again it's just one opinion. I do think it's pretty cool though that you take the time to post and do the things you do at no cost to us, that itself is pretty cool but still a 4 game series chase is extremely risky and not wise. Maybe consider doing this system without any of the money lines, everything at 1.10 and not so many games, say a 2 or 3 game max chase at 1.10 would be much safer for ones bankroll. Keep up the work wallco, it is very considerate that you take the time to do what you do in the first place.
                                                              No you're not. You're a dipshit newbie that has 13 posts of trolling. Since you're obviously just bored, I have a great idea for you to pass the time:

                                                              1. Go get your dad/uncle/crack-dealer's gun
                                                              2. Buy a bullet
                                                              3. Put the gun in your mouth
                                                              4. Pull the trigger

                                                              Presto! Problem solved
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                                                              • TrojanMan8
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 10-17-14
                                                                • 158

                                                                #626
                                                                Originally posted by CJ
                                                                No you're not. You're a dipshit newbie that has 13 posts of trolling. Since you're obviously just bored, I have a great idea for you to pass the time:

                                                                1. Go get your dad/uncle/crack-dealer's gun
                                                                2. Buy a bullet
                                                                3. Put the gun in your mouth
                                                                4. Pull the trigger

                                                                Presto! Problem solved
                                                                I've been following both Wallco's Chase 110 system and the JM 1-7-5 betting structure that Wallco helped devised all year long, so we're both following the same philosophy, so let's be clear that I disagree with chickndinner's comments.

                                                                However, I don't think telling him to kill himself will stop him from posting in this thread if he wants. If what he says really bothers you that much, just ignore him instead of spreading hate.
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                                                                • swordsandtequila
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-23-12
                                                                  • 9756

                                                                  #627
                                                                  CJ's right though, chickenlittle's 13 posts have been nothing but trolling. Obviously somebody's ghost. Doesn't have to kill himself, fuking off will do.
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                                                                  • jsleeeee
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-16-12
                                                                    • 504

                                                                    #628
                                                                    Good luck to this system. I feel like it's going to be worth following.
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                                                                    • brihy17
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 03-10-12
                                                                      • 2

                                                                      #629
                                                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                      I am with Alex on this one. Finish any open series the way you started it. But I am seriously considering fading the rest of the series this year starting with the 2/1/15 games. I made the switch last year and ended up 56 units ahead when the actual system took a -180 unit shit.
                                                                      So you have fading the money line plays? or all A bets ? Thanks.
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                                                                      • TrojanMan8
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 10-17-14
                                                                        • 158

                                                                        #630
                                                                        Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                        I am with Alex on this one. Finish any open series the way you started it. But I am seriously considering fading the rest of the series this year starting with the 2/1/15 games. I made the switch last year and ended up 56 units ahead when the actual system took a -180 unit shit.
                                                                        Wallco, do you think that the system is trending downward so quickly that you want to make the switch this weekend? Do you think the all-star break would affect results so that it would be better to wait?
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