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  • Jimbo42
    SBR MVP
    • 01-04-09
    • 2076

    #386
    Originally posted by Jimbo42
    Adding Minnesota +14
    This is killin me!!! i got a few coins on the M/L too...+1100 OMG!
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    • texhooper
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-05-09
      • 10001

      #387
      Originally posted by cocknocker
      College games are hella fixed....
      how so? and this is not me disagreeing, this is me asking. how are college games fixed in ways that pro games are not, and i take it we're talking about basketball and football?

      this might sound ignorant, but i'm curious.
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      • nonsense48
        SBR MVP
        • 12-15-08
        • 2927

        #388
        DEX, what i'm saying is that you can cap and be the best capper on earth. but if the fix is in you can throw all that capping shit right out the window and just pray that you're on the right side.
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        • BigMoneyMan
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-14-08
          • 925

          #389
          Originally posted by TheLemonDropKid
          Well I would if the post would come out BEFORE the 2nd Half started......LOL.

          I post 11.23 Ck post 11.22. I get shit because you don't have ****ing opinion. Am I being out of line or am I crazy! I will not post another half in here ever. I may not post period I have had it. Wow. I guess I didn't give you a free pick on you schedual. Unbelievable.What a bunch of ugratefule ****s
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          • nonsense48
            SBR MVP
            • 12-15-08
            • 2927

            #390
            shoe, you have it all wrong. it's just the opposite. capping only gets you so far.
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            • BrandonLaz
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-18-08
              • 855

              #391
              Originally posted by texhooper
              how so? and this is not me disagreeing, this is me asking. how are college games fixed in ways that pro games are not, and i take it we're talking about basketball and football?

              this might sound ignorant, but i'm curious.
              Due to the fact that the pros already make mad money as it is. Why risk a career for a few extra coins on the side. College kids have nothing and are just wanting more cash to get them by until they get to the pros.
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              • cocknocker
                Restricted User
                • 11-06-08
                • 8001

                #392
                And moreover than that, why the hell is Smacky involving himself in the conversation when there's no money on the table? Nevermind..

                Anyway

                T-Wolves cash the ticket!

                Now let's go Clips!
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                • Jimbo42
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-04-09
                  • 2076

                  #393
                  Ohhhhh... he missed a three!!!.. at least they went for the three and the win!
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                  • Jimbo42
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 2076

                    #394
                    Oh well Minnesota Covers!! Boo Ya!
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                    • BrandonLaz
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-18-08
                      • 855

                      #395
                      Originally posted by BigMoneyMan

                      I post 11.23 Ck post 11.22. I get shit because you don't have ****ing opinion. Am I being out of line or am I crazy! I will not post another half in here ever. I may not post period I have had it. Wow. I guess I didn't give you a free pick on you schedual. Unbelievable.What a bunch of ugratefule ****s
                      Big are you in a bad mode tonight man? I honestly don't think they meant anything by it on either of the other post. Be happy man you had a good day and helped a lot of other people have a good day.
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                      • alittlemoresound
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 12-14-08
                        • 472

                        #396
                        dammit.... 100$ bet on MIN ML$.... would of paid $1100.... one fkcuen basket and a missed free throw....
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                        • isiah121
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-04-08
                          • 313

                          #397
                          Congrats to you Minnesota backers. I got the Wolves at 14.5 and cashed the ticket.
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                          • Portlander
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 09-22-08
                            • 292

                            #398
                            Originally posted by Smacksmiter
                            Go! Go! Go!
                            Anyone get this guy? Just seems to be talking gibberish to me..

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                            • cocknocker
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-06-08
                              • 8001

                              #399
                              Originally posted by texhooper
                              how so? and this is not me disagreeing, this is me asking. how are college games fixed in ways that pro games are not, and i take it we're talking about basketball and football?

                              this might sound ignorant, but i'm curious.

                              Ask BigMoney about the Toledo basketball AND football programs. Guys are taking payments under the table. Especially the free safety on defense. College kids will throw a game for an on-camps bookie in a heartbeat. Money is scarce to a college kid. i don't blame them tho. A far as the NBA is concerned, there's already certifiable proof that referees are in on the take.
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                              • Dexter
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-24-08
                                • 25829

                                #400
                                Originally posted by texhooper
                                how so? and this is not me disagreeing, this is me asking. how are college games fixed in ways that pro games are not, and i take it we're talking about basketball and football?

                                this might sound ignorant, but i'm curious.
                                b/c the player on austin peay who plays 35 min per game can affect the outcome, yet he has little chance of making the nba. so when "gino gambino" approaches him with $25K, and all he has to do is make sure his team doesnt win by more then 10 pts, these kids take the deal. lots of the players dont come from families with money.
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                                • nonsense48
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-15-08
                                  • 2927

                                  #401
                                  i consider myself not a bad capper and i can cap football and basketball with the best of them but i know how many times that i thought i had a game capped out to win by DD's and lost outright. there's no explaination for that kind of shit. buy all the points you want and still lose.
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                                  • cocknocker
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-06-08
                                    • 8001

                                    #402
                                    Hang on in there, Clips! It's gonna be a footrace!
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                                    • texhooper
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 10001

                                      #403
                                      Originally posted by BrandonLaz
                                      Due to the fact that the pros already make mad money as it is. Why risk a career for a few extra coins on the side. College kids have nothing and are just wanting more cash to get them by until they get to the pros.
                                      well, that's kinda what i figured, but i didn't know if there was something else out there, any kinds of proof, and all that. nothing like that ever seems to get out, at least that i'm aware of, and i would think it would be a bigger deal if it did than a lot of the bs ncaa infractions that get so blown out of proportion.

                                      how can enough people be in on a fix so that no one really ever knows about it? it's just something i've always wondered.
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                                      • Jimbo42
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-04-09
                                        • 2076

                                        #404
                                        I'm outta here fellas.. Minnesota jus made my night... Late!
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                                        • cocknocker
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-06-08
                                          • 8001

                                          #405
                                          25K? Hell Dexter I would throw a game for that too, and I have good money. A missed free throw here or there you know...Plus I would bet the house on the other side to sweeten the payday as well. Why get only 25K for insider knowledge when you can make it into 75K?
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                                          • nonsense48
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-15-08
                                            • 2927

                                            #406
                                            the players make great money but what about their poor as brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin, friends? you think they support all these folks. jimmy jackson and his entire family live about less than a mile from me and you should see the houses and cars and clothes they all have and have had since he was in college. you think he's supporting all of them. PLEASE
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                                            • Dexter
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-24-08
                                              • 25829

                                              #407
                                              Originally posted by nonsense48
                                              let me give you a great for instance. there was a horserace in detroit better than 20 yrs. ago. the fix was in. every owner and jockey of every horse was in on it. the horse that was supposed to win went off at 55/1. he was tucked in at 3 with a 1/4 mile to go when he made his move and took the lead. ahead by 5 lenghts with 20 yrds to the finish he fell and broke his leg and DQ. now that's piss poor luck.
                                              ok, now we're talking horses which is no doubt fixed by the independent contractor jockeys on the smaller circuits.

                                              but this example you give was a rare occurence.

                                              i guess my whole point is that it would make sense to me if lemondrop claimed this was all luck (since he admittely says he always loses and has bad luck)

                                              but for you to now claim this is all luck makes no sense to me.
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                                              • nonsense48
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-15-08
                                                • 2927

                                                #408
                                                don't get me started on refs. a couple flags or whistles in a game and it's over.
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                                                • cocknocker
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-06-08
                                                  • 8001

                                                  #409
                                                  Originally posted by texhooper
                                                  well, that's kinda what i figured, but i didn't know if there was something else out there, any kinds of proof, and all that. nothing like that ever seems to get out, at least that i'm aware of, and i would think it would be a bigger deal if it did than a lot of the bs ncaa infractions that get so blown out of proportion.

                                                  how can enough people be in on a fix so that no one really ever knows about it? it's just something i've always wondered.

                                                  I think it's the referees and their ties to the organized crme thing, not so much the players in the NBA. The guy who went to jail had something like 18 straight unders or something like that. If you had that knowledge beforehand, you would be living in Morrocco by now with a couple of 22 year old nasty girls.
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                                                  • BrandonLaz
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-18-08
                                                    • 855

                                                    #410
                                                    Originally posted by nonsense48
                                                    don't get me started on refs. a couple flags or whistles in a game and it's over.
                                                    Pass interference Ohio State vs Miami anyone?
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                                                    • BigMoneyMan
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-14-08
                                                      • 925

                                                      #411
                                                      Originally posted by BrandonLaz
                                                      Big are you in a bad mode tonight man? I honestly don't think they meant anything by it on either of the other post. Be happy man you had a good day and helped a lot of other people have a good day.
                                                      \

                                                      Im cool brother. But this is turning into covers. I post because I want to help people out. But unlike Ck I don't give shit if you take my advice or not. I am up 15 large this week do you really think I give a flying ****. I don't listen to anyone and I have plenty of friends so I don't need you to be my buddy. I do this shit for fun and I take it personally when someone bitches about a pick that is not posted on there schedual. Start paying me a g a week and then you can bitch. You are under no obligation to take any advice or picks for me or CK. Why do you think he stopped placing the secreat plays. Grow a spin
                                                      e!
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                                                      • BigMoneyMan
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-14-08
                                                        • 925

                                                        #412
                                                        Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                        I think it's the referees and their ties to the organized crme thing, not so much the players in the NBA. The guy who went to jail had something like 18 straight unders or something like that. If you had that knowledge beforehand, you would be living in Morrocco by now with a couple of 22 year old nasty girls.
                                                        Is the under hitting second? Got them both I think. You did not go the other way after we spoke. TELL ME its not true Tony?
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                                                        • nonsense48
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-15-08
                                                          • 2927

                                                          #413
                                                          DEX, i don't say it's all luck. i say that when an obvious should-have-won doesn't cover or even loses the moneyline straight up then it makes me quite suspect.
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                                                          • Dexter
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-24-08
                                                            • 25829

                                                            #414
                                                            Originally posted by nonsense48
                                                            DEX, what i'm saying is that you can cap and be the best capper on earth. but if the fix is in you can throw all that capping shit right out the window and just pray that you're on the right side.
                                                            which is why i dont really bother capping college sports. when i play college on my own, i like to follow line movements of crazy no name schools...

                                                            i dont believe nba games are fixed. thats just my opinion. can there possibly be another degenerate ref that hasnt been caught after the last incident? i say no...
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                                                            • BrandonLaz
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-18-08
                                                              • 855

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by BigMoneyMan
                                                              \

                                                              Im cool brother. But this is turning into covers. I post because I want to help people out. But unlike Ck I don't give shit if you take my advice or not. I am up 15 large this week do you really think I give a flying ****. I don't listen to anyone and I have plenty of friends so I don't need you to be my buddy. I do this shit for fun and I take it personally when someone bitches about a pick that is not posted on there schedual. Start paying me a g a week and then you can bitch. You are under no obligation to take any advice or picks for me or CK. Why do you think he stopped placing the secreat plays. Grow a spin
                                                              e!
                                                              Alright I wasn't trying to be your buddy just wondering what was pissing you off. I understand getting frustrated in just trying to help and people complaining about your plays. Nice bank this week getting 15 large hope your streak continues.
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                                                              • nonsense48
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-15-08
                                                                • 2927

                                                                #416
                                                                we're seeing more and more of the shit too. that's all i'm saying.
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                                                                • Dexter
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 12-24-08
                                                                  • 25829

                                                                  #417
                                                                  Originally posted by TheLemonDropKid
                                                                  There you go........makes you wonder why we put all this analysis into it then doesn't it?
                                                                  what the hell is wrong with 55%? if you bet your games straight thats added income. if you put in the extra effort and units to certain stronger plays, you can do well. with money mgmt of course
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                                                                  • nonsense48
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-15-08
                                                                    • 2927

                                                                    #418
                                                                    DEX, the nba and nfl are the worst imo.
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                                                                    • texhooper
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 10001

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                                      The guy who went to jail had something like 18 straight unders or something like that.
                                                                      what's hilarious about that is that guy apparently figured out how to fix a game to go under, but didn't know how to fix it to go over, so it really was only a matter of time before someone somewhere caught on.

                                                                      i would think a total would be way harder to fix than a side, but i'm not an aspiring crooked ref, so i guess my opinion doesn't really mean much.
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                                                                      • BrandonLaz
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 11-18-08
                                                                        • 855

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Originally posted by Dexter
                                                                        what the hell is wrong with 55%? if you bet your games straight thats added income. if you put in the extra effort and units to certain stronger plays, you can do well. with money mgmt of course
                                                                        If you have the money to do it then wagering straight actually isn't bad. 1000 dollars a game over 1000 games at 53% is a profit of 13,000. If you up that to the 55% area it is $55,000 dollars. I mean not near as good as good money management can do, but not the same risk either in case you go on a horrible large play run
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