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  • Consigliere
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-10-13
    • 126

    #1681
    Originally posted by hyahya
    Consigliere, those graphs are an awesome tool to discern between long term and short term trends. Many thanks to you and all who have put in hard labor on the spreadsheet.

    I would argue that having time demarcations in the graph would be helpful as you'd be able to gauge frequency of occurrence in a given time span from where we may be able to drill down to the variable level. For example, if the occurrence of teams FTA<21 rises, then maybe we can deduce a slight shift in the way games are called. Of course, this is simply icing and would depend on time required.

    Ill work them them up as the trends come active and can share a sheet so that you can see how they are made and others can chip in other sports.

    Nice night tonight fellas
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    • pip2
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-21-12
      • 543

      #1682
      Originally posted by pip2
      Today's plate:

      det and ut cover vs wsh and atl -- From J R ATS: 583-453-21 (1.37, 56.3%) ATS: 583-453-21 (1.37, 56.3%)
      AD and WP < 50 and (o:rest=0 or rest=1) and ats streak < 0 and 0 < o:ats streak < 3

      det covers vs wsh From PunterBoss ATS:166-107-6 (1.77, 60.8%)
      AD and WP < 50 and o:WP > 50 and ats streak < 0 and o:ats streak > 0 and playoffs = 0 and season >= 2003 and on:H and 8 <= game number <= 63

      okc and orl cover vs bos and ny --- from jmon sitpost #1345 ATS:14-36-0 (-5.22, 28.0%)
      H and tA(FTA) <= 21 and month=11 and F and -8.5 <= line <= -3 and 2008 <= season and rest < 4 and o:rest < 3 and losses > 0 and o:wins < 7 and o:losses < 9

      por covers vs den -- from jmon sitpost#1275 ATS: 18-45-3 (-3.58, 28.6%)
      HD and line <= 10 and p:AL and po:blocks >= 10 and rest < 4 and 2007 < season

      no covers vs lal -- From me in sitpost #1265 ATS:140-212-7 (-1.75, 39.8%)
      pu margin > 10 and rest < 1 and P:L and season > 2008
      RESULTS
      Happy to report that mine was the only query that flopped tonight!

      2-0: JR's query on det and ut covering vs wsh and atl
      1-0 Punterboss' query det covers vs wsh
      2-0 jmon's query okc and orl cover vs bos and ny
      1-0 jmon's query por covers vs den
      0-1 pip's query no covers vs lal
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      • SportsMind
        SBR Rookie
        • 11-03-14
        • 32

        #1683
        This is obviously not something that should really be played on its own, but since TNT started airing games only on Thursday night, Thursday has been the only day that has had the under consistently hit. I believe you can contribute it to the amount of people that watch these games, which cause Vegas to inflate the total. I would not play the under on its own, but it can be used to cement another query.

        I would love to get only the games that air on TNT, but I'm not sure that is possible.

        H and day = Thursday and ...
        7 4-3-0 (1.14, 57.1%) -6.4 2-5-0 (-7.36, 28.6%) 200.9 5-2 (7.57, 71.4%) season > 2013
        88 44-44-0 (-0.48, 50.0%) -3.9 39-48-1 (0.48, 44.8%) 202.6 53-35 (3.40, 60.2%) season > 2012
        155 71-83-1 (-1.17, 46.1%) -3.2 63-90-2 (-1.44, 41.2%) 200.1 89-66 (2.07, 57.4%) season > 2011
        252 119-132-1 (-0.71, 47.4%) -3.1 101-148-3 (-1.89, 40.6%) 197.0 147-105 (2.38, 58.3%) season > 2010
        324 155-166-3 (-0.11, 48.3%) -2.9 138-183-3 (-1.27, 43.0%) 196.9 187-137 (2.78, 57.7%) season > 2009
        393 192-196-5 (-0.10, 49.5%) -2.8 164-225-4 (-1.39, 42.2%) 197.3 229-164 (2.75, 58.3%) season > 2008
        465 232-228-5 (0.07, 50.4%) -2.9 196-265-4 (-1.57, 42.5%) 197.5 276-189 (2.99, 59.4%) season > 2007
        543 271-267-5 (-0.03, 50.4%) -3.1 225-310-8 (-1.55, 42.1%) 197.6 324-219 (3.03, 59.7%) season > 2006
        613 303-305-5 (-0.02, 49.8%) -3.1 253-351-9 (-1.39, 41.9%) 197.2 366-247 (3.06, 59.7%) season > 2005
        687 334-348-5 (-0.07, 49.0%) -3.1 291-386-10 (-1.07, 43.0%) 196.9 406-281 (3.06, 59.1%) season > 2004
        773 378-389-6 (-0.11, 49.3%) -3.1 333-429-11 (-0.84, 43.7%) 196.2 456-317 (2.98, 59.0%) season > 2003
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        • JMon
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-11-09
          • 9800

          #1684
          NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

          Overall Group Record - 6-2 (+3.85)

          Official Entries: Max 10 of 10:


          1. JMon - 0-1 (-1.10)

          2. pip2
          -
          0-1 (-1.05)


          3. nash13
          -
          1-0 (+1.00)


          4. Ronald S.
          -
          1-0 (+1.00)


          5. hyahya
          -
          1-0 (+1.00)

          6. Mako-SBR
          -
          1-0 (+1.00)

          7. FlyinAir
          -
          1-0 (+1.00)

          8. Consigliere
          -
          1-0 (+1.00)

          9. Sports Mind
          -
          0-0 (0.00)

          10. Forty Six
          -
          0-0 (0.00)
          Last edited by JMon; 11-13-14, 07:14 AM.
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          • JMon
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-11-09
            • 9800

            #1685
            pip and I were very close to winning ours to have a group sweep. Nonetheless nicely played all
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            • nash13
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-14
              • 1122

              #1686
              Originally posted by SportsMind
              This is obviously not something that should really be played on its own, but since TNT started airing games only on Thursday night, Thursday has been the only day that has had the under consistently hit. I believe you can contribute it to the amount of people that watch these games, which cause Vegas to inflate the total. I would not play the under on its own, but it can be used to cement another query.

              I would love to get only the games that air on TNT, but I'm not sure that is possible.

              H and day = Thursday and ...
              7 4-3-0 (1.14, 57.1%) -6.4 2-5-0 (-7.36, 28.6%) 200.9 5-2 (7.57, 71.4%) season > 2013
              88 44-44-0 (-0.48, 50.0%) -3.9 39-48-1 (0.48, 44.8%) 202.6 53-35 (3.40, 60.2%) season > 2012
              155 71-83-1 (-1.17, 46.1%) -3.2 63-90-2 (-1.44, 41.2%) 200.1 89-66 (2.07, 57.4%) season > 2011
              252 119-132-1 (-0.71, 47.4%) -3.1 101-148-3 (-1.89, 40.6%) 197.0 147-105 (2.38, 58.3%) season > 2010
              324 155-166-3 (-0.11, 48.3%) -2.9 138-183-3 (-1.27, 43.0%) 196.9 187-137 (2.78, 57.7%) season > 2009
              393 192-196-5 (-0.10, 49.5%) -2.8 164-225-4 (-1.39, 42.2%) 197.3 229-164 (2.75, 58.3%) season > 2008
              465 232-228-5 (0.07, 50.4%) -2.9 196-265-4 (-1.57, 42.5%) 197.5 276-189 (2.99, 59.4%) season > 2007
              543 271-267-5 (-0.03, 50.4%) -3.1 225-310-8 (-1.55, 42.1%) 197.6 324-219 (3.03, 59.7%) season > 2006
              613 303-305-5 (-0.02, 49.8%) -3.1 253-351-9 (-1.39, 41.9%) 197.2 366-247 (3.06, 59.7%) season > 2005
              687 334-348-5 (-0.07, 49.0%) -3.1 291-386-10 (-1.07, 43.0%) 196.9 406-281 (3.06, 59.1%) season > 2004
              773 378-389-6 (-0.11, 49.3%) -3.1 333-429-11 (-0.84, 43.7%) 196.2 456-317 (2.98, 59.0%) season > 2003
              Just look at the conference parameter: The East has a solid 60% on under.

              H and day = Thursday and season >= 2003 and conference and o:conference

              291-199 thats awesome. Only switch games if two Western Teams play each other.

              107 54-53-0 (0.55, 50.5%) -1.7 39-68-0 (-1.83, 36.4%) 194.1 58-49 (2.28, 54.2%) conference = Eastern and o:conference = Western
              151 73-76-2 (-0.12, 49.0%) -4.6 63-86-2 (-0.61, 42.3%) 194.2 96-55 (4.45, 63.6%) conference = Western and o:conference = Eastern
              236 113-122-1 (-0.58, 48.1%) -3.3 97-137-2 (-1.43, 41.5%) 189.4 136-100 (2.69, 57.6%) conference = Eastern and o:conference = Eastern
              355 180-171-4 (0.15, 51.3%) -2.8 168-178-9 (-0.12, 48.6%) 200.4 210-145 (2.96, 59.2%) conference = Western and o:conference = Western
              Last edited by nash13; 11-13-14, 08:28 AM.
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              • FunkFreaker
                SBR Rookie
                • 10-23-14
                • 12

                #1687
                tA(FGA) > 84.3 and otA(FGA) > 84.4 and H and tA(turnovers) + otA(turnovers)<=30.5

                183-117-3 (4.66, 61.0%) avg total: 207.1
                Avg TOs in NBA last season is 14.6 per team. Avg FGA is about 83 last season. So if we have two teams which play with faster than avg pace (more than 84.3 FGA per game) and both teams combined are near to avg or even better in turnovers per game we can expect high scoring game which is proof of my 61% with 300 games sample query!

                We have one really bad season here: 2004 with 5-11-0 (-1.78, 31.2%) record. The other seasons look really nice
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                • hyahya
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-08-14
                  • 165

                  #1688
                  A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and P:W and month != 3 and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and D
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                  • pip2
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-21-12
                    • 543

                    #1689
                    Only 2 queries found so more of a snack than a meal today:

                    phi covers vs dal From PunterBoss ATS:166-107-6 (1.77, 60.8%)
                    AD and WP < 50 and o:WP > 50 and ats streak < 0 and o:ats streak > 0 and playoffs = 0 and season>= 2003 and on:H and 8<=game number<=63

                    chi covers vs tor from jmon sitpost #1392 -- ATS: 45-9-2 (7.15, 83.3%)
                    A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and P:W and month != 3 and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and D
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                    • hyahya
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 03-08-14
                      • 165

                      #1690
                      conference != o:conference and p:LF and p:margin < -9 and season > 2010 and site=home and playoffs=0
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                      • hyahya
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 03-08-14
                        • 165

                        #1691
                        HF and line < -6 and p:HFL and p:line < -6 and season >= 2011
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                        • pip2
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-21-12
                          • 543

                          #1692
                          HF and line < -6 and p:HFL and p:line < -6 and season >= 2011 and ...
                          games.........ATS....................... ..OU

                          10 5-5-0 (0.30, 50.0%)......-9.7 8-2-0 (8.30, 80.0%)..............game number < 10
                          16 7-9-0 (-1.97, 43.8%)....-10.5 12-4-0 (5.19, 75.0%)............game number < 20
                          20 10-10-0 (-0.82, 50.0%).-10.4 13-7-0 (1.55, 65.0%)............game number < 30
                          32 21-11-0 (2.47, 65.6%)..-10.3 17-15-0 (-0.34, 53.1%) ........game number < 40
                          38 23-15-0 (1.63, 60.5%)..-10.5 20-18-0 (-0.34, 52.6%).........game number < 50
                          46 28-17-1 (2.05, 62.2%)..-10.4 22-23-1 (-0.98, 48.9%) ........game number < 60
                          52 32-19-1 (2.24, 62.7%)..-10.4 24-27-1 (-1.89, 47.1%) ........game number < 70
                          Last edited by pip2; 11-13-14, 11:19 AM.
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                          • JMon
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-11-09
                            • 9800

                            #1693
                            NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

                            11-13-14 - 10:57a CT

                            Play Bulls +120

                            SDQL:

                            A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and P:W and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and month!= 3 and playoffs=0

                            SDQL: English

                            Since 2011, road favorite of no more than 3 or dog of no more than 5, coming of a home win of more than 10 and won previous matchup v. oppt who is on no more than one days rest. As a dog role 74% ml winners with a margin of victory of 6.2
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                            • FunkFreaker
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 10-23-14
                              • 12

                              #1694
                              Originally posted by nash13
                              Just look at the conference parameter: The East has a solid 60% on under.

                              H and day = Thursday and season >= 2003 and conference and o:conference

                              291-199 thats awesome. Only switch games if two Western Teams play each other.

                              107 54-53-0 (0.55, 50.5%) -1.7 39-68-0 (-1.83, 36.4%) 194.1 58-49 (2.28, 54.2%) conference = Eastern and o:conference = Western
                              151 73-76-2 (-0.12, 49.0%) -4.6 63-86-2 (-0.61, 42.3%) 194.2 96-55 (4.45, 63.6%) conference = Western and o:conference = Eastern
                              236 113-122-1 (-0.58, 48.1%) -3.3 97-137-2 (-1.43, 41.5%) 189.4 136-100 (2.69, 57.6%) conference = Eastern and o:conference = Eastern
                              355 180-171-4 (0.15, 51.3%) -2.8 168-178-9 (-0.12, 48.6%) 200.4 210-145 (2.96, 59.2%) conference = Western and o:conference = Western
                              Nash Add playoffs=0 for more correct results. TNT Thursday type of games are part of the regular season only. When playoffs are come is a different story IMO
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                              • nash13
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-21-14
                                • 1122

                                #1695
                                funny as it may seem when you take playoffs out, the percentage drops a little, but still it is profit for cross conference matches.
                                137 - 96
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                                • hyahya
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 03-08-14
                                  • 165

                                  #1696
                                  NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

                                  11-13-14 - 9:25am PT

                                  Play Bulls +3 -120

                                  SDQL:

                                  A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and P:W and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and month!= 3 and playoffs=0

                                  Same play as JMon except taking the +2.5 and buying it up to +3.
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                                  • JMon
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-11-09
                                    • 9800

                                    #1697
                                    For Best Bet players only...considering a daily best bet is not required, however if you would please let me know if you will not have one. This will help me on gathering plays and who to look for throughout the day.
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                                    • nash13
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-21-14
                                      • 1122

                                      #1698
                                      I think I am off tonight. Concentrate on NHL.
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                                      • Consigliere
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 02-10-13
                                        • 126

                                        #1699
                                        Originally posted by hyahya
                                        NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

                                        11-13-14 - 9:25am PT

                                        Play Bulls +3 -120

                                        SDQL:

                                        A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and P:W and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and month!= 3 and playoffs=0

                                        Same play as JMon except taking the +2.5 and buying it up to +3.
                                        Any my concerns with these queries that the previous matchup between these two teams was the previous year? This was the case with NO and LAL last night.
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                                        • hyahya
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 03-08-14
                                          • 165

                                          #1700
                                          Originally posted by Consigliere
                                          Any my concerns with these queries that the previous matchup between these two teams was the previous year? This was the case with NO and LAL last night.
                                          A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and playoffs=0

                                          Removing P:W and month!=3 still returns a 64.5% win rate (107-59-5).
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                                          • dmitean
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 03-30-11
                                            • 364

                                            #1701
                                            Love the Bulls play regardless of the queries, but also love JMon's query. Makes a lot of sense, since small dog means that teams are favorites and big win the game before, means (usually) that a team in on a good form and to top it of, they also have better rest.
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                                            • JMon
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-11-09
                                              • 9800

                                              #1702
                                              Originally posted by Consigliere
                                              Any my concerns with these queries that the previous matchup between these two teams was the previous year? This was the case with NO and LAL last night.
                                              you can always add

                                              P:season=season

                                              to see how 'same season' interacts.
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                                              • Consigliere
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 02-10-13
                                                • 126

                                                #1703
                                                Originally posted by JMon
                                                you can always add

                                                P:season=season

                                                to see how 'same season' interacts.
                                                All around looks like a great trend. Just not happy it goes against my beloved Raptors and the fact that they are on fire right now! I even filtered the line for DOGS only and the SU % is basically the same.....a real gem! Well I'm on it so if the Raptors win I'm happy, if they lose I make money! I ran every query in the sheet and nothing showed up but I did add this nugget into our database.
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                                                • Consigliere
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 02-10-13
                                                  • 126

                                                  #1704
                                                  I have no best bet for tonight JMon. All queries came up blank for me.
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                                                  • Mako-SBR
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 10-15-13
                                                    • 492

                                                    #1705
                                                    Originally posted by Consigliere
                                                    I have no best bet for tonight JMon. All queries came up blank for me.
                                                    Same here, none for me either, despite 70+ queries being active...how will I get my fix!!!
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                                                    • FlyinAir
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-14-14
                                                      • 1612

                                                      #1706
                                                      11-13-14 TOB 3:13pm CT


                                                      Sac/Grizz Under 191 -110
                                                      (Wow, this line moved down to 189 already, I booked this last night, as I always do)

                                                      SDQL: tA(points)>=94.5 and p:M3>3.5 and pp:M3>3.5 and tA(o: points)<=94 and season > 2012 and o:rest<2

                                                      Were taking a team who averages 95+ppg, coming off back to back games where they were winning by 4 or more after the third Q, team must also allow under 94 pts on average, and their oppt (Sac) is on less than two days rest > since 2012 Record is 21-9-1 on the Under, and 25-6 SU on the team.
                                                      Last edited by FlyinAir; 11-13-14, 04:18 PM.
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                                                      • JMon
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-11-09
                                                        • 9800

                                                        #1707
                                                        NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

                                                        11-13-14

                                                        Plays -some maybe pending.

                                                        Jmon - Bulls ML (1 to win 1.2)

                                                        Hyahya - Bulls +3 (B.5) (1.2 to win 1)

                                                        FlyinAir - Sac un 191 (1.1 to win 1)
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                                                        • Ronald S.
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 07-02-13
                                                          • 344

                                                          #1708
                                                          Originally posted by JMon
                                                          NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

                                                          11-13-14

                                                          Plays -some maybe pending.

                                                          Jmon - Bulls ML (1 to win 1.2)

                                                          Hyahya - Bulls +3 (B.5) (1.2 to win 1)

                                                          FlyinAir - Sac un 191 (1.1 to win 1)

                                                          I will have a play on Golden St. Just waiting to see if I can get a better line.

                                                          The trend is
                                                          HF and p:HFL and p:line <= -7.5 and season >= 2008

                                                          and it gets a little better with DD spread
                                                          Last edited by Ronald S.; 11-13-14, 06:21 PM. Reason: added trend that I will be using
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                                                          • Ronald S.
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 07-02-13
                                                            • 344

                                                            #1709
                                                            Good correlation between Under and Raptors ATS since last year
                                                            29-11 (5.90, 72.5%)
                                                            30-10-0 (4.46, 75.0%) avg line: -1.4
                                                            0-40-0 (-12.10, 0.0%) avg total: 194.9
                                                            27-28 (1.60, 49.1%)
                                                            23-30-2 (-0.52, 43.4%) avg line: -2.1
                                                            55-0-0 (13.81, 100.0%) avg total: 197.4
                                                            Home Under and Home Over showed similar correlation. So this seems like a good spot for an IF bet.

                                                            IF Raptors Under 196
                                                            Raptors -2.5

                                                            ...Although, just saw JMon's trend and best bet which favors the Bulls so will not be playing this tonight... but definitely something to keep an eye on!

                                                            In fact, I think I'll throw a little on a Bulls/Over parlay
                                                            Last edited by Ronald S.; 11-13-14, 06:05 PM.
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                                                            • SportsMind
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 11-03-14
                                                              • 32

                                                              #1710
                                                              I will not have a play today
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                                                              • JMon
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-11-09
                                                                • 9800

                                                                #1711
                                                                Originally posted by Ronald S.
                                                                I will have a play on Golden St. Just waiting to see if I can get a better line.

                                                                The trend is
                                                                HF and p:HFL and p:line <= -7.5 and season >= 2008

                                                                and it gets a little better with DD spread

                                                                Thanks...I will keep an eye on your official post.
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                                                                • JMon
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-11-09
                                                                  • 9800

                                                                  #1712
                                                                  Thanks guys for letting me know if you don't have a play! Appreciate it!
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                                                                  • Ronald S.
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-02-13
                                                                    • 344

                                                                    #1713
                                                                    @Sportsmind: That query you did on Thursday TNT games is amazing. I just ran it with team=Bulls and the under is hitting at a 32%-38% clip! Now it looks like it favors under more with Bulls at home than on the road but still favors under whether Bulls are home or away. I was going to first bet Toronto/Under, then changed my mind to Bulls/Over, now I think I'll just go with Bulls lol.
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                                                                    • pip2
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 10-21-12
                                                                      • 543

                                                                      #1714
                                                                      Originally posted by hyahya
                                                                      NBA SDQL 'BEST BET' 2014-15

                                                                      11-13-14 - 9:25am PT

                                                                      Play Bulls +3 -120

                                                                      SDQL:

                                                                      A and -3 <= line <= 5 and p:H and p:margin > 10 and P:W and o:rest < 2 and 2011 <= season and month!= 3 and playoffs=0

                                                                      Same play as JMon except taking the +2.5 and buying it up to +3.
                                                                      Same play as hyahya except I'm just taking the 2.5...+2½ -101
                                                                      Last edited by pip2; 11-13-14, 07:46 PM.
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                                                                      • Mako-SBR
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 10-15-13
                                                                        • 492

                                                                        #1715
                                                                        Originally posted by Ronald S.
                                                                        @Sportsmind: That query you did on Thursday TNT games is amazing. I just ran it with team=Bulls and the under is hitting at a 32%-38% clip! Now it looks like it favors under more with Bulls at home than on the road but still favors under whether Bulls are home or away. I was going to first bet Toronto/Under, then changed my mind to Bulls/Over, now I think I'll just go with Bulls lol.
                                                                        I went through the same process you did haha, wound up going with consensus and taking Bulls +2.5 and the Under, 1/2 unit each. BOL all.

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