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  • J.M. Disciple
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    • 11-16-10
    • 5142

    #351
    Originally posted by dlunc3
    Did he implement that? Somehow I must have missed it. How did it perform this year?
    Originally posted by on3
    UPDATED for 9/20/2013
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 177-18-0; Profit: +55 units (LAA, LAD, BOS, LAA, TEX, ATL, LAA, WAS, LAA, SF, TB, ARI, OAK, KC, DET, TEX, TEX, PIT)

    Filtered System: 32-1-0; Profit: +31.5 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

    5/2 chase: 9-1-0; profit: +18.5 units

    Records:
    (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 123-74; 23-10
    Game 2 (B) win = 37-35; 6-4; 6-4
    Game 3 (C) win = 17-18; 3-1; 3-1

    LABBY LINES FOR 9/20/2013
    35-35-36-35
    23-29-65-68
    30-53-43-26

    Filtered
    x-x-x-x
    x-x-x-x
    x-x-x-25

    REGULAR FOR 9/20/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher to be official)
    (B) WAS -266/-120 to win 65 -- play RL
    (B) CLE -206/+100 to win 68 -- play RL
    (A) PHI -195/+110 bet 35 -- play RL
    (A) DET -284/-130 to win 35 -- play RL
    (A) BOS -211/+100 to win 36 -- play RL
    (A) TB -181 to win 35

    Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)

    none

    5/2

    none
    That appears to be final post for that. Overally very few plays, but 9-1 with 18units profit I would say is profitable. Would definitely love to see more action than that though. His 5/2 system applies only to the filter games where A must be o/u 9 or higher thats why there are so few plays. It plays to win 5 on B and chases C to win 2. All A games are skipped. I do not know if he tested it for all system plays or just filter.
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    • dlunc3
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-31-09
      • 9129

      #352
      Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
      That appears to be final post for that. Overally very few plays, but 9-1 with 18units profit I would say is profitable. Would definitely love to see more action than that though. His 5/2 system applies only to the filter games where A must be o/u 9 or higher thats why there are so few plays. It plays to win 5 on B and chases C to win 2. All A games are skipped. I do not know if he tested it for all system plays or just filter.

      Thank you for this info. I was out of the game for a lot of the summer... I did not put two and two together that the 5/2 was his system. Thank you for the information and I apologize to everyone for cluttering the thread. bol tonight
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      • J.M. Disciple
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        • 11-16-10
        • 5142

        #353
        UTA DOWN 11 AT HALf time not bad considering their shooting 28% and chi 60%! I would expect a bigger blowout at those numbers, but uta is getting shot attempts 50% higher rate.
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        • ridersonthestorm
          SBR Sharp
          • 09-30-13
          • 496

          #354
          Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
          UTA DOWN 11 AT HALf time not bad considering their shooting 28% and chi 60%! I would expect a bigger blowout at those numbers, but uta is getting shot attempts 50% higher rate.
          "Leave hope behind all ye who enter here"

          It's matter of time Utah will be down by 30. They are probably the only hopeless team in the NBA, they won 1st preseason game and have lost 13 since, in many of them trailing by shameful margin during the game, no matter what final scoreline says.

          Thankfully they (almost) never have been favorites, so no big loss. The problem is, soon there is another away game series for them.
          Last edited by ridersonthestorm; 11-08-13, 10:08 PM.
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          • dlunc3
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-31-09
            • 9129

            #355
            at least its not as painful when its a 30 point blow out
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            • dlunc3
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              • 10-31-09
              • 9129

              #356
              wouldn't mind dallas helping us out
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              • ridersonthestorm
                SBR Sharp
                • 09-30-13
                • 496

                #357
                Originally posted by dlunc3
                wouldn't mind dallas helping us out
                I would love if they do but they are doing Utah in the last minutes. Very meagre hope.

                No, they blew it completely and hopelessly, sorry. Game over.
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                • bauerranch
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-01-10
                  • 611

                  #358
                  Well we don't need to wonder if we should of bought 3 points on this one.....
                  Also JM is using a filter on this so he keeps his clean record
                  We will get it back
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                  • ridersonthestorm
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 09-30-13
                    • 496

                    #359
                    Originally posted by bauerranch
                    Well we don't need to wonder if we should of bought 3 points on this one.....
                    Also JM is using a filter on this so he keeps his clean record
                    We will get it back
                    As long as Utah won't come in our way, I am positive. There is a hope in any NBA team helping us out.

                    Not Utah.
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                    • thelimit0310
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-24-11
                      • 1233

                      #360
                      Fun fact, Utah was the first loss last season as well. They haven't won a single game this season!
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                      • ridersonthestorm
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 09-30-13
                        • 496

                        #361
                        Originally posted by thelimit0310
                        Fun fact, Utah was the first loss last season as well. They haven't won a single game this season!
                        Aim higher. They have lost every single game since preseason game number 2.

                        I did discard Utah the moment they took Andris Biedrins from Golden State. Biedrins is my fellow countryman, I should have been very proud my small country representative have reached the heights of the NBA. Unfortunately, apart from one decent season 5 or 6 years ago, he has been nothing but embarrasment, while his "technique" of throwing free pointers is a stuff of youtube, therefore he avoids at all costs any contact - heaven forbid - not to earn a foul.

                        Yet he is getting paid at least 5 millions a year. And Utah bought him regardless. That moment I knew sooner hell will freeze than Utah - having such a clever scouts and player buyers - will be anything but basement dwellers.
                        Last edited by ridersonthestorm; 11-08-13, 11:00 PM.
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                        • dlunc3
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                          • 10-31-09
                          • 9129

                          #362
                          a dallas loss tomorrow night could put us in a nice 38 unit hole to start the season.. should be a fun one
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                          • Wallco99
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                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #363
                            Originally posted by ridersonthestorm
                            Aim higher. They have lost every single game since preseason game number 2.

                            I did discard Utah the moment they took Andris Biedrins from Golden State. Biedrins is my fellow countryman, I should have been very proud my small country representative have reached the heights of the NBA. Unfortunately, apart from one decent season 5 or 6 years ago, he has been nothing but embarrasment, while his "technique" of throwing free pointers is a stuff of youtube, therefore he avoids at all costs any contact - heaven forbid - not to earn a foul.

                            Yet he is getting paid at least 5 millions a year. And Utah bought him regardless. That moment I knew sooner hell will freeze than Utah - having such a clever scouts and player buyers - will be anything but basement dwellers.
                            I wanted to win every series this year so we could see giant increases in our bankrolls. But hell with that, I want to win now so his rants will stop.

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                            • ken23lau
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 09-11-10
                              • 296

                              #364
                              That loss hurts, especially because it's at the start of the season
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                              • ridersonthestorm
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-30-13
                                • 496

                                #365
                                Originally posted by Wallco99
                                I wanted to win every series this year so we could see giant increases in our bankrolls. But hell with that, I want to win now so his rants will stop.

                                Now you have The Purpose.
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                                • J.M. Disciple
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-16-10
                                  • 5142

                                  #366
                                  1-7-5 system

                                  *Not traditional John Morrison System*

                                  Bet Sizing
                                  A) Risk 1.1u to win 1u
                                  B) Risk 8.91u to win 8.1u
                                  C) Risk 16.51u to win 15.01u


                                  Profit: -21.73
                                  Record:
                                  A) 3-6
                                  B) 2-2
                                  C) 0-1


                                  Close series via 3.5 filter: 2
                                  RULES:Reference Post #184

                                  SCHEDULE: post #78

                                  RECAP
                                  11/8/2013 V1 UTA +12(C) VS CHI
                                  11/8/2013 V3 DAL +4.5 (B) VS MIN


                                  UPCOMING PLAYS
                                  11/9/2013 DAL (C) VS MIL


                                  Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses.

                                  Lets hope for some A bet losses, so these losses can be recovered fast. I am not sure if people understand this 1-7-5 system for what it is. There will be more losses obviously not playing ml on favorites or buying 3 points on dogs, but everything is at -110 odds or lower. 1-7-5 is a LOSS RECOVERY SYSTEM! Get use to the losses, but also get use to them being recovered faster. Year after year John Morrison has a bad start at the beginning of the season for whatever reason. Middle of the season is usually beautiful and consistent profit. Hope Dallas is not too tired tomorrow playing back to back. Will be a nice C bet win vs MIL.
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                                  • cambertos
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 06-16-12
                                    • 329

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by ridersonthestorm
                                    Now you have The Purpose.
                                    you're a pain in the a s s mate. Neck off with your nonsense.

                                    Tough on Utah tonight, they look truly pathetic
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                                    • knugen
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-09-09
                                      • 2612

                                      #368
                                      Oohh.. tough start
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                                      • KennyM10
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-14-10
                                        • 788

                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by dlunc3
                                        a dallas loss tomorrow night could

                                        put us in a nice 38 unit hole to start the season.. should be a fun one
                                        Oh come on silly, what is 38units
                                        Just be li ke wallco an air bettor!
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                                        • hagball52
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-22-10
                                          • 3053

                                          #370
                                          According to John Morrison:

                                          James,

                                          Ahh, what a bloodbath on them Jazz tonight! Although [C]
                                          wagers are strategically wise ones to make, we must always
                                          be cautious of the filters in the system. Utah had a couple
                                          things going against it tonight in the filters, including:

                                          - The betting series happened in the first week of the season

                                          - Utah had the worst road record in the league

                                          Was Utah still a strategically wise bet to make? Yes, of
                                          course. But, due to the factors at play I hope we were all
                                          cautious about putting up any high risks in this series if
                                          you had decided not to pass on betting in the first week.

                                          The outlook from here looks real good James. Now
                                          that the first week of the season is over, I'm confident
                                          that we'll finish out the rest of the year strong!

                                          Current system betting record for this NBA season:

                                          11/3 Atlanta won [A] (*Note: happened in first week)
                                          11/8 Utah lost [C] (*Note: happened in first week. Worst road record)

                                          We'll have our next system bet on the 10th. Yep, that'll
                                          officially be when the first week fuss is over!

                                          See ya then James,
                                          The Sports Betting Champ

                                          PO Box 30175
                                          Worcester, MA 01603
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                                          By the way he did send out Utah as a play without mentioning any of the filters until the (C) Bet.
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                                          • Andy3568
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-17-10
                                            • 615

                                            #371
                                            Originally posted by hagball52
                                            By the way he did send out Utah as a play without mentioning any of the filters until the (C) Bet.
                                            Really!?! I'm shocked! Shocked!
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                                            • Andy3568
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-17-10
                                              • 615

                                              #372
                                              He did not mention them being the worst road team until after the game. The only filter he mentioned before the game was the fact that it was the first week of the season. Strangely enough, I don't remember a first week of the season filter, but there must be one because our buddy wouldn't change the rules and add filters as we go along.
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #373
                                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                2013-14 System to Date: 0-0 (fin. series)
                                                System profit/loss: +0.00 units (fin.series)
                                                Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

                                                (11/8/13):
                                                #1 Utah (+12½) (A) - Loss

                                                v1 Plays
                                                (A) 0-1
                                                (B) 0-0

                                                (C) 0-0
                                                (D) 0-0
                                                Losses: None


                                                Games for (11/9/13):
                                                #1 Utah (+8) @ Toronto (B) (7:05 pm EST)


                                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

                                                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses.
                                                Last edited by Wallco99; 11-09-13, 10:32 AM.
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                                                • thelimit0310
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-24-11
                                                  • 1233

                                                  #374
                                                  Nobody should be getting worried. Even if tonight doesn't go our way this is something that should have been planned for. This system averages 7-8 losses a season, but these losses are recovered in just a few games. Just be prepared for this stuff to happen, it isn't uncommon. If any of you are using 1% of your roll as a unit size, then you can take 4 straight series losses (that's half the average losses per season!) without any wins before being in trouble, that should be enough for you to take the emotion out of it.
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                                                  • Wallco99
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                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                    • 7261

                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by thelimit0310
                                                    Nobody should be getting worried. Even if tonight doesn't go our way this is something that should have been planned for. This system averages 7-8 losses a season, but these losses are recovered in just a few games. Just be prepared for this stuff to happen, it isn't uncommon. If any of you are using 1% of your roll as a unit size, then you can take 4 straight series losses (that's half the average losses per season!) without any wins before being in trouble, that should be enough for you to take the emotion out of it.
                                                    I noticed yesterday while testing the 1-7-5 that one of the seasons had a few losses very early on. Panic mode in that thread would have been at an all time high. The system ended WELL into the positive by season's end and never appeared to be 100 units down ever, which is supposed to be the "model" for how many units players should have set aside for a given system. So even while down, no responsible player would have been busted out. This loss is a good way to weed out those who can't handle losing bets, and leave only the serious players around for the long haul.
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                                                    • J.M. Disciple
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                                                      • 11-16-10
                                                      • 5142

                                                      #376
                                                      that or just use .5% as your unit size. Make half the profit but bankroll will never drop below 50% based on wallco statement.
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                                                      • J.M. Disciple
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                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                        • 5142

                                                        #377
                                                        Fell asleep before game time and didn't get my bet it I also for some reason thought they were playing MIN again, so I was hesitant on the spread. Vs MIL its instant bet last night. Must of been tired. Other bets today have already picked up 13 units so far with lots pending. Looks like another positive week after starting the week off with 4 losing days.
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                                                        • ok15533
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-14-09
                                                          • 220

                                                          #378
                                                          As much as folks want to chase UTAH. I dont thing Utah want to be chased. such a tease.
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                                                          • Wallco99
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                                                            • 01-01-11
                                                            • 7261

                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by ok15533
                                                            As much as folks want to chase UTAH. I dont thing Utah want to be chased. such a tease.
                                                            They're not very cooperative, are they?
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                                                            • dlunc3
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-31-09
                                                              • 9129

                                                              #380
                                                              Dallas giving us their best choke job
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                                                              • ok15533
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-14-09
                                                                • 220

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                They're not very cooperative, are they?
                                                                Nope they are not...
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                                                                • bonhammer
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 05-27-13
                                                                  • 32

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Anti Choke Up
                                                                  -bonhammer
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                                                                  • Wallco99
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                                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                                    • 7261

                                                                    #383
                                                                    I totally overlooked a Chase 110 play on Sacramento tonight. Good thing for us that I did. Well, at least for now.
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                                                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-16-10
                                                                      • 5142

                                                                      #384
                                                                      1-7-5 system

                                                                      *Not traditional John Morrison System*

                                                                      Bet Sizing
                                                                      A) Risk 1.1u to win 1u
                                                                      B) Risk 8.91u to win 8.1u
                                                                      C) Risk 16.51u to win 15.01u

                                                                      Profit: -6.72
                                                                      Record:
                                                                      A) 3-6
                                                                      B) 2-2
                                                                      C) 1-1

                                                                      Close series via 3.5 filter: 2
                                                                      RULES:Reference Post #184

                                                                      SCHEDULE: post #78

                                                                      RECAP
                                                                      11/9/2013 DAL -3 (C) VS MIL

                                                                      UPCOMING PLAYS
                                                                      11/10 V3 NOP (A) VS PHO
                                                                      11/10 V1 WASH (A) VS OKC



                                                                      Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses.
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                                                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                                        • 5142

                                                                        #385
                                                                        I might have to wait for B and C on these two series. NOP plays UTAH on the B game, so hopefully A loses and we pick up an easy B bet. WASH plays OKC, Dal, and SAS for their series so might miss that one. Right now lines are -2 and +9.5, but I think we can get +10 or +10.5 vs OKC tomorrow. And maybe -1.5 for nop, but I do not think that spread will matter much.
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