NASCAR at Watkins Glen International August 8th

Jay Price · 08-02-10, 06:06 PM

Ambrose and Johnson will definitely be in the mix.

I like Montoya, Kurt Busch, and Mark Martin to have a good weekend as well.

Optional · 08-03-10, 02:50 AM

This might be Ambrose's last real chance to win a Cup race, if he doesn't sign with Petty or a better team for 2011.

hawk 5 · 08-03-10, 07:10 AM

Stewart

The General · 08-03-10, 09:53 AM

I just finished reviewing the point standings. Mark martin will need a solid finish here. He'll be more point racing than 'to win' racing.

avssakic · 08-03-10, 12:27 PM

Ambrose, Montoya, Gordon, Stewart

rickie65 · 08-03-10, 01:33 PM

Ambrose and Stewart top 2. J Gordon hasnt been better than 9th last 5 years here. Boris Said in the Red Bull 83 this week.

The General · 08-03-10, 02:15 PM

I don't think we can leave out the 24 as he has had a solid year, 50 race winless streak and a popular choice on the road courses.

rickie65 · 08-03-10, 06:00 PM

agreed. didn't mean to sound like I was counting him out just noting he hasn't been too successful at the Glen lately. About a dozen drivers I'd consider this week.

Optional · 08-03-10, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by rickie65

Said in the Red Bull 83 this week.

Now that might be worth a play! Should be good odds hopefully.

The General · 08-03-10, 06:53 PM

With 16 top-10 finishes in 20 starts, Watkins Glen is statistically Mark Martin's best track. And every time he's sat on the pole there, he's won.

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SaviorTebow · 08-04-10, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Now that might be worth a play! Should be good odds hopefully.

Never been a fan of Boris, he has been a real choke artist at the road races in the past. IMO, the books will overvalue him for the race. Mark Martin & Clint Bowyer should be some good value picks at around 15-1.

hawk 5 · 08-04-10, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by The General

With 16 top-10 finishes in 20 starts, Watkins Glen is statistically Mark Martin's best track. And every time he's sat on the pole there, he's won.

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/opin....watkins.glen/

Been a while since he won here.

CapNWatch · 08-04-10, 06:34 AM

Stewart and Ambrose.

The General · 08-04-10, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by rickie65

Ambrose and Stewart top 2. J Gordon hasnt been better than 9th last 5 years here. Boris Said in the Red Bull 83 this week.

I remember the 2007 race well. Jeff Gordon seemingly had it wrapped up before spinning out on his own with 2 laps to go I think. I had picked Robby and Jeff Gordon. Both were strong, but couldn't finish the deal.

2007 Glen

Benefiting from Jeff Gordon’s spin in Turn 1 on the next-to-last lap, Tony Stewart inherited the lead from the NASCAR Nextel Cup points leader and went on to win

rickie65 · 08-04-10, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by SaviorTebow

Never been a fan of Boris, he has been a real choke artist at the road races in the past.

he has choked lately but this will be the best car he's been in in awhile and he def has the road racing talent. If he;s a good price he's worth a shot, especially if you can get a good top 5 price on him.

Said's last 5 at The Glen: year-car#-start-finish-note
2009 #08 - 9 - 34 mechanical. top 10 first 1/2 of race
2008 #45 - 40 - 24 running. not great, in top 10 briefly.
2007 #21 - 39 - 14 running. not great, not a real threat
2006 #60 - 31 - 15 running. was 7th with 10 to go
2005 #36 - 41 - 3 running. best career finish. in top 5 for 2/3 of race

obamaismyuncle · 08-04-10, 11:16 AM

Nascar has gone to completely unwatchable garbage these days. Where will this sport be in 5 years? NASCAR needs to take the WWE route and completely stage the whole thing, it needs this to survive. The old timers will not like it, but this sport is going down the drain fast.

bigdaddyjames · 08-04-10, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by The General

I just finished reviewing the point standings. Mark martin will need a solid finish here. He'll be more point racing than 'to win' racing.

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Optional · 08-05-10, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by rickie65

he has choked lately but this will be the best car he's been in in awhile.

That was my thinking too, about the best car he has ever been in.

Although I'll be cheering for Ambrose to do it, finally.

obamaismyuncle · 08-05-10, 04:22 AM

wow

mikejamm · 08-05-10, 04:33 AM

Gotta go with the road course guys here, Ambrose and Said. Like others have said, don't count out Robbie and Jeff Gordon, Montoya and Stewart. And you know Jimmy Johnson will find some way to get in the top 5.

rickie65 · 08-05-10, 10:42 AM

I've stopped counting on Robby G, he's let me down too many times, although he did do well at Infineon.

What I hate is this is one of those races where all practices are before qualifying so we don't get a Happy Hour to check last prep times

Boscoe · 08-05-10, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by SaviorTebow

Never been a fan of Boris, he has been a real choke artist at the road races in the past. IMO, the books will overvalue him for the race. Mark Martin & Clint Bowyer should be some good value picks at around 15-1.

Martin & Bowyer are both 55-1.

Jay Price · 08-05-10, 07:28 PM

We're gonna stick it to the books on Sunday

avssakic · 08-05-10, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by dew22

We're gonna stick it to the books on Sunday

I hope so, or at least that is the plan

hawk 5 · 08-06-10, 06:24 AM

Stewart +430 and Ambroes +375. May add 1 long shot, may not. Like Harvick.

hawk 5 · 08-06-10, 06:46 AM

The top 4 qualifying spots has produced over 50% of the winners here. The pole position over 35% of the winners.

Optional · 08-06-10, 07:23 AM

Might have to wait until after qualifying and see if Ambrose misses pole as usual and might be able to get a better price. Think I'll take him wherever he starts though. He's only being offered at +200 on Betfair for now.

Optional · 08-06-10, 08:54 AM

Denny Hamlin looks pretty good odds to me. Better than +2000 and never started or finished outside the top 10 here.

Here is a list of drivers who have better qualifying and race results at The Glen than their overall averages. First number is how much better they qualify, second number is how much better they finish.

Stewart 58% 58%
R Gordon 25% 56%
Hamlin 57% 46%
Martin 22% 42%
Edwards 18% 36%
Kyle B 38% 33%
Papis 13% 26%
Jones 3% 16%
Harvick 40% 10%
Said 2% 9%
Montoya 2% 5%
Yeley 7% 3%
Newman 14% 1%

Biffle has top 5s in his last 2 road course starts, and coming off a win, might be worth a shot at +5000 too.

fults400 · 08-06-10, 11:15 AM

I don't think you can count harvick out either especially at +1200.

SaviorTebow · 08-06-10, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Boscoe

Martin & Bowyer are both 55-1.

Martin 55-1? Where???? I'd be all over that. He is 14-1 at Stations Casinos in Vegas.

Boscoe · 08-06-10, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by SaviorTebow

Martin 55-1? Where???? I'd be all over that. He is 14-1 at Stations Casinos in Vegas.

In the sbr book. Thought it was the same at bodog, but they were down to 50-1 for each.

SaviorTebow · 08-06-10, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Boscoe

In the sbr book. Thought it was the same at bodog, but they were down to 50-1 for each.

Nice...never noticed Nascar betting in the SBR book before. But then again im a noob so what the hell do I know. Ended up putting 5 sbr points on Hamlin 23-1. Lots of value there.

rickie65 · 08-06-10, 05:35 PM

y'know, it amazes me that I also never knew about the SBR book, I pretty much just do a couple forums and contests. Really nice payouts on a few good drivers in there!! Since I don't think of my points as real $$ I just used it to cover my a$$ on the drivers I don't expect to have live cash on.

avssakic · 08-06-10, 05:57 PM

I am liking Biffle....

Fastest in both practices
Momentum from win last week
Last two RC's = top 5