FONTANA--5mike5

[uncle vinny]

Really..you make a living relying on luck

[uncle vinny]

Really we all need Lady Luck on our side from time to time

Mike..shaun didnt get the memo

[5mike5]

[shaunovery]

luck has nothing to do with it...luck is just oppurtunity meeting preperation

Really we all need Lady Luck on our side from time to time

[uncle vinny]

luck has nothing to do with it...luck is just oppurtunity meeting preperation

[5mike5]

Whatever makes u tick bud. Just letting U know its almost every1 not just me that thinks this. Most have just already placed u on ignore now and just can't read what u post but like u said u do u and ill do me. I just don't need ur advice is all

Goodluck this week

[uncle vinny]

actually mike, i do know this and still post. im having fun. not trying to teach anyone anything. everyone knows you make a living doing this...you say it every weeek. im making comments to myself so that i remember what i said. makes me beleive im smart.

you keep doing what your doing and ill keep doing what im doing. we both make a ton of money betting nascar, so in the end same same. well unless i get docked points for being clueless, a joke or a wanna be guru

[5mike5]

Oh god

anybody that watched the race knows the camber issue they even talked about it for 15 minutes every broadcast all weekend

vinny I've done this for living for years bud. Ur the last person that could tell me anything I don't ready know. I know what goes in in every way at all practices. I just don't let that effect all the betting decisions.

U my act like ur a guru that's why people think ur a joke and nobody pays any attention to u. And u know this and still post but only when u think u can teach somebody something they are wrong about. I think EOG needs help in their racing section. I declined but be great for u

[uncle vinny]

why do you guys keep calling it a tire issue? it was a camber and air pressure choice from the teams that could be aggressive. no one person is screaming about goodyear. same tire as last year. however, what has changed is the mindset of the teams with wins. they are pushing the limits to get more. i expect the same situation at atlanta, darlington and texas since each of these places are already tough on tires and texas is in the chase so guys with wins will be testing for sure in 2 weeks.

mike, i know you dont pay much attention to practice but this year you should at least find out what teams with wins are doing. i said a few months back some what adimintly that no why 16 guys win this year in 26 races. but know im not so sure. every team is on a differnt agenda it seems. and since jr was the only one with any kind of issue in the race for hendrick (including shr) klye will most likely start trying stuff to help out the other two until they get a win.

for the record i know jj got a flat, but his tire came about unike the others. i think he hit something

[5mike5]

oh i didnt think that is what u meant milehigh....

u have been on a tear the last few weeks, i wouldn't change anything ur doing at the moment pal

and i agree about the driver leaning thing, cant remember but its been a while since the year has even started ut with 5 different winners unless i'm mistaken....start of year is always tough when u do play mostly winners though, least it has been for me

yesterday was just a kick in balls for me...jimmie, then stewart leading on lap 199, then my huge long-shot Larson comes in 2nd...sheesh....but anyways i agree race with a complete joke and i love Fontana cause they can be great races, just like nationwide...anyways keep up the good work buddy, doesn't matter if it a bailout, miracle, whatever if it cashes!

[milehigh]

until cherry picking winners doesn't pay all our bills for a year that's what ill always stick with, the main strategy anyways....and it has every year for 5+ straight seasons so i dont see it changing...just depends how u gamble, how much, and what ur handicapping strategy is... ill be doing that til it doesn't...i still play other things h2hs more and props but not til the season gets into full swing...start of seasons is always my toughest time so ive learned to expect it...its a long season and thats what im focused on

I definitely wasn't challenging your way of betting Mike--its obviously been very profitable and I hope to earn my way into your inner circle of texts and PMs to share info throughout the week . I've been a fan all my life but this is the first year I've really studied gambling on NASCAR, so I know I'm not even close to your league. I'll bet on winners too--Carl at +2200 last week at Bristol paid great and I also had him for a top 3 finish (for more units) at +650. Tony at +2700 was up there at the end yesterday, although his chance of actually winning was unrealistic due to how slow he'd been all day.

Bottom line is my strategy starting out is to make a bunch of bets without leaning on one particular driver too much. At Bristol about 30% of my total money was on Carl Edwards and it paid off big time. Yesterday I had a lot on Harvick but Larson and Kurt Busch bailed me out.

As I learn a bit more I'll focus my bets on fewer drivers with more $$$ per bet.

Even though I made a good profit yesterday, that race was still a joke and not fun to watch except for the last 3 laps.

[yisman]

Was I the only one that thought the last 25-30 laps yesterday were an absolute joke? All of a sudden guys can only run 20 or so laps without cutting a tire. WTF? Biggest embarrasment I have ever seen in nascar. I think I will just go back to being a fan and maybe take 1 guy a race for some action.

it was a terrible race

I don't think anyone liked it except maybe the Kyles

I doubt the viewers enjoyed it

I was hoping Landon Cassill would win, but it was pretty much impossible because he's so much slower than the good cars.

[Slimpickens]

Of course leave it to that scrub Clint Bowyer to be the one to bring out the caution and ruin Jeff's EZ win.

[Slimpickens]

Was I the only one that thought the last 25-30 laps yesterday were an absolute joke? All of a sudden guys can only run 20 or so laps without cutting a tire. WTF? Biggest embarrasment I have ever seen in nascar. I think I will just go back to being a fan and maybe take 1 guy a race for some action.

[shaunovery]

Yeah Gordon is like Kahne and junior wins very few and far between but always need to look at them

[Jmac926]

hoping for 4-1 on jimmie is being optimistic at best probably

and poor Gordon, no matter how good he is on sunday he always finds a way to lose races...thats all i thought yesterday about him

I dont think Gordon will ever win another race that doesnt have a long green run to the end. He might be worse than Kasey on restarts.

[5mike5]

hoping for 4-1 on jimmie is being optimistic at best probably

8-1 isnt even serious hope...thats not even gonna be close....be nice of course!

and poor Gordon, no matter how good he is on sunday he always finds a way to lose races...thats all i thought yesterday about him

[Jmac926]

I wouldn't be too eager to bet jimmy at openers

I agree, No matter how good he looks in practice, can he really be lower than 2/3-1 on raceday?

[yisman]

Larson finished 2nd without leading a single lap.

That's probably pretty unusual

[shaunovery]

I wouldn't be too eager to bet jimmy at openers

[Jmac926]

Martinsville this weekend--hoping that the favorites open at 8-1 or higher. Ironic that the 2 drivers that dominate Martinsville have reason to be extra motivated this weekend after California :-)

Yeah 8-1 would have been a dream. Jim opened 2-1 at sportsbook, so maybe 3-1 at dimes. I was hoping for 4-1 on jim and 8-1 on jeff, but as my mom use to say, hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up faster.
Some good longshot odds, but those two favs are going to be hard to beat.

[5mike5]

Ill have the Martinsville Thread posted up by this evening or early in the morning

doing my notebook shit and watching races but ill post it soon

[5mike5]

until cherry picking winners doesn't pay all our bills for a year that's what ill always stick with, the main strategy anyways....and it has every year for 5+ straight seasons so i dont see it changing...just depends how u gamble, how much, and what ur handicapping strategy is... ill be doing that til it doesn't...i still play other things h2hs more and props but not til the season gets into full swing...start of seasons is always my toughest time so ive learned to expect it...its a long season and thats what im focused on

[shaunovery]

Martinsville this weekend--hoping that the favorites open at 8-1 or higher. Ironic that the 2 drivers that dominate Martinsville have reason to be extra motivated this weekend after California :-)

Favs 8/1 or higher you've gotta be joking Jimmie won't be higher than 3/1

[milehigh]

Martinsville this weekend--hoping that the favorites open at 8-1 or higher. Ironic that the 2 drivers that dominate Martinsville have reason to be extra motivated this weekend after California :-)

[Optional]

Very nice Yis.

[yisman]

7566 Joey Logano #22* +110 vs Kasey Kahne #5 (maxed)

#1) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : C. Bowyer 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line -135 for Game over Kurt Busch

#2) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : C. Edwards 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line -150 for Game over Newman

#3) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : D. Ragan 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line +100 for Game over Gilliland

#4) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : Kyle Busch 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line -110 for Game over Keselowski

#1) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : C. Edwards 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line +135 for Game over Hamlin (no action)

7545 Kevin Harvick #4* -190 vs Kasey Kahne #5

MU [7539] B KESELOWSKI +150 (B KESELOWSKI vrs D EARNHARDT JR) - big bet

#1) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : M. Truex Jr 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line -105 for Game over McMurray

1. 3/23/2014 3:15 PM SprintCup Motor Racing 7526 Kurt Busch #41* -105 vs Ryan Newman #31

#1) Sport : Motor Racing Other Sports
Selection : T. Stewart 3/23/2014 12:15PM - (PST) Money Line -130 for Game over Vickers

7521 Carl Edwards #99* +120 vs Clint Bowyer #15 - big bet

7514 Joey Logano #22* +150 vs Dale Earnhardt Jr #88 - big bet

7503 Kyle Busch #18* +100 vs Matt Kenseth #20

Edwards beat Hornish easily. I wish that counted.



Daytona: 13-1, +1185
Phoenix: 6-6, -10
Las Vegas: 8-7, +90
Bristol: 10-8, +220
Fontana: 9-4, +490

overall: 46-26, +1975

[milehigh]

2nd place fukkin sucks

I agree. I love to bet a few winners but I really research Top 3 finishes more. I got paid +1900 on Larson and +800 on Kurt Busch for being in top 3 (I had also bet #4 and #88 for top 3's as well).

Of course the odds aren't as good, but there's too much parity and random events like yesterday in NASCAR for me to go out and try to cherry pick winners.

I had an awesome Bristol weekend and the troubles with the #48/24 saved my ass yesterday. I'd rather be lucky than good--but that's racing!

[avssakic]

2nd place fukkin sucks

[hawk 5]

thatda worked too

[shaunovery]

Fvcking caution. 24 was the best car. fuk

#48 was driving away from him with 6 to go then blow

[hawk 5]

Fvcking caution. 24 was the best car. fuk

[Royfus777]

Who like tonight ddt? I like to watch but dont know much about betting on it.

I'm the same way I love watching but don't know enough yet to find value to bet so I'm going to keep watching to increase my knowledge base.

[Royfus777]

Nice Day Bud We were one of the lucky ones today to escape those tire troubles.

Bowyer and Kes going down with 6 or 7 to go and Gordon being terrible on restarts saved me. Good job too!

[Jmac926]

2nd perfect day of the year!!!!!!!!!!!! +5.60 units!!
YTD: 17-4 +13.6 units!!!!!

Nice Day Bud We were one of the lucky ones today to escape those tire troubles.