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  • daoilman
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-02-07
    • 930

    #1
    Longshots
    How about the 4th race at Belmont, maybe a price in waiting.

    Lets take a closer look at Bambi Bound, of particular interest is are the recent claims on this horse. Notice the claim on 4/22/12 made by David Jacobson, the price that day was 20k, the next start the price is increased to 35k, as we can see there were no claiming bids for 35k tag. The next race is where it gets interesting, the horse is moved up to 50k and at this point at Gary Contessa enters a claim slip. As objective handicappers we have to ask ourselves why Gary Contessa is willing to pay an inflated price for the horse, he could of claimed the horse 25 days earlier for 35k? Also we should note that the new owner is Jennifer Contessa, likely Gary Contessa's wife or daughter and not one of the trainers regular clients (private owners).

    The next question has to be what is the intent of the trainer in the immediate future with regards towards this purchase? How quickly will the trainer be looking to get a return on his investment? Is today the day?

    I have watched this angle for many years, overall, in my estimate, it is about a 50% play spread over the horses next three starts, and being so, long odds must be demanded, something above 5-1 is what we are looking for, I think that this might be the case today.

    This horse looks to be up against it in terms of class in today's race, in the field we see a few horses with overnight stakes races in their profiles, we also see one or two that have raced in graded company. There's an old adage in horse racing that says...

    "Stakes horses often win in stakes races, stakes horses don't always win in claiming races".

    The logic behind the saying is that if a stakes horse is sound and sharp it would be poor choice to enter it in a claiming event, the fit and ready stakes horse should be racing in stakes races.

    Now, with all this being said, lets look at another horse in same race.

    Lets look at W.W.'s Lady's Man.

    Lets look at the claim pattern starting at the bottom, note the claim for 16k on 9/23/11, then note that the horse was claimed while moving up in class, the claim for 20k a month later. Notice how this horse was given time off (approx. 90 days), then returned to racing at a yet higher price tag, further notice a nice 3rd place finish in the return, then a troubled trip in the next race, followed by a win at odds of 13-1.

    I place horses with this type of activity onto my DFR watch list, I get notified when they are entered to race, I note each as "claimed while moving up", I generally only follow them for their first three starts after the increased claim, or if they win back sooner.

    Good luck today punters.
  • CoachTaylor
    SBR Hustler
    • 06-23-12
    • 81

    #2
    Bol oilman. Coach is rooting for ya.
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    • daoilman
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-02-07
      • 930

      #3
      Originally posted by CoachTaylor
      Bol oilman. Coach is rooting for ya.
      Thanks Coach, and welcome to the forum.
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      • blue.eyed.tuna
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-26-11
        • 458

        #4
        just didn't have it today as they finish least and second to last and are never really in contention. BOL next time!
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        • daoilman
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-02-07
          • 930

          #5
          A good effort, albeit a losing one, this horse is on my watch list, when he is re-entered I will post it to this thread, we will watch to see how he classed his next few starts.
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          • daoilman
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-02-07
            • 930

            #6
            Not certain if this runner is a bet in this race, but up in class should guarantee a nice price if it crashes over.

            Horse name Bambi Bound
            Notes claimed going up
            Activity type Entry
            Activity date 07-06-2012
            Track Belmont Park
            Surface Dirt
            Distance 6 Furlongs
            Race number 8
            Purse $85,000
            Race type Stakes
            Post position 4
            Jockey Maragh R
            Race entry http://www.drf.com/race-entries/BEL/USA/2012-07-06/D/8
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            • joeyp1222
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-09
              • 5186

              #7
              Originally posted by daoilman
              Not certain if this runner is a bet in this race, but up in class should guarantee a nice price if it crashes over.

              Horse name Bambi Bound
              Notes claimed going up
              Activity type Entry
              Activity date 07-06-2012
              Track Belmont Park
              Surface Dirt
              Distance 6 Furlongs
              Race number 8
              Purse $85,000
              Race type Stakes
              Post position 4
              Jockey Maragh R
              Race entry http://www.drf.com/race-entries/BEL/USA/2012-07-06/D/8
              oilly? this is monday no belmont today are you up there today?

              too much toga on your mind?
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              • daoilman
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 09-02-07
                • 930

                #8
                I get email alerts on entries I tab, above is the notice I received.

                The horse goes to post Fri. 7/6/12 if not scratched, my posting this info is advanced warning.
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                • daoilman
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-02-07
                  • 930

                  #9
                  I have looked over the race today (Belmont 8th), and I will be wagering on Bambi Bound, as I am assured a good mutual if this horse wins. In my opinion, for me, the risk reward is acceptable. (Please do not accept closing odds below 5-1)

                  Good luck to those who tail me.
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                  • daoilman
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-02-07
                    • 930

                    #10
                    Up the track at 18-1, I will follow this horse for 1 more race.
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