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    2024 Derby Futures

    Hey gang, I hope you will post your current Derby futures here so I can root for them and discuss the topic. I know we have most posted but they are scattered. I have mine below:

    Forever Young: 12-1
    Hades: 33-1
    Catching Freedom: 50-1
    No More Time: 33-1 (Terrible bet)
    Mystic Dan: 28-1

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    Opps, I think I may have a couple in one of the KD pools that I have written down. Will find and post later.

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    I donít have any future bet, but looking at Florida Derby this weekend; I find Conquest Warrior - the $1M colt out of City of Light is interesting. His tactical running style should serve him well.

    From Arkansas Derby, Dimatic and Time for Truth are both interesting long shots.

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    born noble 41-1

    not going in fla derby


    deterministic 94-1 (pool 4)

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    I'll get mine posted... I tried to import my spreadsheet and it wouldn't let me.... I have a few haha! but my dads horses are included also!
    I Sent an email on my issue and I'll see if they have a fix for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
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    born noble 41-1

    not going in fla derby


    deterministic 94-1 (pool 4)
    I like those odds on this guy. I'll be happy to buy half of your stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batt33 View Post
    I'll get mine posted... I tried to import my spreadsheet and it wouldn't let me.... I have a few haha! but my dads horses are included also!
    I Sent an email on my issue and I'll see if they have a fix for me.
    Get those up here Batt. I would like to take a gander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigpen View Post
    I like those odds on this guy. I'll be happy to buy half of your stake.
    yes regardless of what he does a big overlay now..fact he hadn't run yet as a 3yo and his lone start was in august upped the price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigpen View Post
    Hey gang, I hope you will post your current Derby futures here so I can root for them and discuss the topic. I know we have most posted but they are scattered. I have mine below:

    Forever Young: 12-1

    Hades: 33-1
    Catching Freedom: 50-1
    No More Time: 33-1 (Terrible bet)
    Mystic Dan: 28-1

    realize it's easy to take an undefeated horse whose at very low odds relative to the time before the race..japanese horses have been doing tremendous in the big middle east races in recent years.. the male influences of the japanese sire are off the charts for class and stamina ..would be my choice amongst the ones you have

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    Pool 1
    Liberal Arts 51-1
    Moonlight 96-1
    Sieze the grey 37-1
    booth 52-1
    Domestic product 79-1
    stronghold 101-1

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    pool2
    Catching Freedom 52-1
    Knights Bridge 19-1
    Liberal Arts 46-1
    locked 14-1
    nash 18-1

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    pool3
    Amante Bianco 99-1
    Born Noble 41-1
    Just Steele 99-1
    Catching Freedom 28-1
    Knights Bridge 26-1
    Liberal Arts 72-1
    timberlake 30-1
    track phantom 18-1

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    Sires...any of thier offspring.
    Candy Ride 58-1
    good Magic 19-1
    Into Mischief 18-1
    Justify 15-1
    Medaglia d'oro 18-1
    Nyquist 11-1
    Practical Joke 64-1
    Quality Road 24-1
    Tapit 39-1

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    Born Noble 79-1
    catching freedom 31-1
    deterministic 93-1
    timberlake 15-1
    domestic product 80-1
    honor marie 36-1
    Knightsbridge 23-1
    speak easy 41-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    realize it's easy to take an undefeated horse whose at very low odds relative to the time before the race..japanese horses have been doing tremendous in the big middle east races in recent years.. the male influences of the japanese sire are off the charts for class and stamina ..would be my choice amongst the ones you have
    JB, I think I may be a bit too enamored with this guy. Those odds are a bit low I will admit but I think he is going to be a really good one. I just hope he makes it to the gate. If I am not mistaken he has to win or run 2nd over in Dubai just go make the field.

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    Batt, you should have some interesting entries on Derby Day. I like your odds to hit one and maybe double up with the sire futures. Domestic Product would fit nicely for you. Good luck!!!!!!

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    Thanks Pigpen!
    Like I said earlier, My dad likes doing these pools as it gives him something to follow... some picks are his and I don't mind throwing a couple of bucks at them.. just for the banter back and forth!

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    Well, I lost another one of my future bets....Timberlake per DRF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batt33 View Post
    Well, I lost another one of my future bets....Timberlake per DRF.

    That is a shame Batt. You had him with some good numbers and he had a legit shot IMO.

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    Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.
    post position .... a bump out of the gate ... or another speedball to pressure him early and it isn't easy... as it looks.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.
    I respectfully disagree. His Holy Bull race raises some red flags IMO. He may win but will be an underlay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.
    I agree with you ..even with the potential chaos of the derby he's a better,faster horse ..ran a huge figure,did it easy so you couldn't ask for a better setup..he also ran a very fast bc juvenile so it's no fluke .. as far as regressing after good efforts i think thats more coincidental and he's more mature and over it..post draw still a wildcard but aside from that I can see not getting cute this year and try to get value in exactas and triples..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigpen View Post
    Hey gang, I hope you will post your current Derby futures here so I can root for them and discuss the topic. I know we have most posted but they are scattered. I have mine below:

    Forever Young: 12-1
    Hades: 33-1
    Catching Freedom: 50-1
    No More Time: 33-1 (Terrible bet)
    Mystic Dan: 28-1
    No More Time Injured in Breeze, Out of Kentucky Derby
    No More Time, winner of the Sam F. Davis Stakes (G3) and runner-up in the Tampa Bay Derby (G3), is off the Kentucky Derby (G1) trail after sustaining an injury at the end of his April 14 breeze at Palm Meadows Training Center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    No More Time Injured in Breeze, Out of Kentucky Derby
    No More Time, winner of the Sam F. Davis Stakes (G3) and runner-up in the Tampa Bay Derby (G3), is off the Kentucky Derby (G1) trail after sustaining an injury at the end of his April 14 breeze at Palm Meadows Training Center.
    Thanks for the notice ER. I saw this earlier also. I do not think he had much of a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigpen View Post
    Thanks for the notice ER. I saw this earlier also. I do not think he had much of a shot.
    OK Pigpen GL on your remaining Players for the Deby.

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    If Forever Young is training well up to the race he is my play. I think this guy may be for real. GL!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigpen View Post
    If Forever Young is training well up to the race he is my play. I think this guy may be for real. GL!!!!!
    3 | FOREVER YOUNGOwner/Trainer: Susumu Fujita/Yoshito YahagiReal Steel—Forever Darling, by CongratsBreeder: Northern Racing (JPN)The struggles of UAE Derby (G2) horsesthrough the years have been noted in thisspace—they’ve never finished better than fifthin 19 Derby starts. So the obvious questionis, what is different about this year and UAEDerby winner Forever Young? His advantageis that he is already a proven internationalshipper, having traveled from Japan, wherehe went 3-for-3, to the Middle East, wherehe notched two graded stakes victories. Hearrived at Churchill Downs late last week andhas already taken a few spins beneath theTwin Spires—giving him about three weeksof on-track preparation for the May 4 Run forthe Rose

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