2024 Derby Futures

**Pigpen** · 03-25-24, 08:22 AM

Opps, I think I may have a couple in one of the KD pools that I have written down. Will find and post later.

**mrginandtonic** · 03-25-24, 03:43 PM

I don’t have any future bet, but looking at Florida Derby this weekend; I find Conquest Warrior - the $1M colt out of City of Light is interesting. His tactical running style should serve him well.

From Arkansas Derby, Dimatic and Time for Truth are both interesting long shots.

**JBEX** · 03-25-24, 04:27 PM

locked (out)

born noble 41-1

not going in fla derby

deterministic 94-1 (pool 4)

**batt33** · 03-25-24, 06:18 PM

I'll get mine posted... I tried to import my spreadsheet and it wouldn't let me.... I have a few haha! but my dads horses are included also!
I Sent an email on my issue and I'll see if they have a fix for me.

**Pigpen** · 03-26-24, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

locked (out)

born noble 41-1

not going in fla derby

deterministic 94-1 (pool 4)

I like those odds on this guy. I'll be happy to buy half of your stake.

**Pigpen** · 03-26-24, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by batt33

I'll get mine posted... I tried to import my spreadsheet and it wouldn't let me.... I have a few haha! but my dads horses are included also!
I Sent an email on my issue and I'll see if they have a fix for me.

Get those up here Batt. I would like to take a gander.

**JBEX** · 03-26-24, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Pigpen

I like those odds on this guy. I'll be happy to buy half of your stake.

yes regardless of what he does a big overlay now..fact he hadn't run yet as a 3yo and his lone start was in august upped the price

**JBEX** · 03-26-24, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Pigpen

Hey gang, I hope you will post your current Derby futures here so I can root for them and discuss the topic. I know we have most posted but they are scattered. I have mine below:

Forever Young: 12-1
Hades: 33-1
Catching Freedom: 50-1
No More Time: 33-1 (Terrible bet)
Mystic Dan: 28-1

realize it's easy to take an undefeated horse whose at very low odds relative to the time before the race..japanese horses have been doing tremendous in the big middle east races in recent years.. the male influences of the japanese sire are off the charts for class and stamina ..would be my choice amongst the ones you have

**batt33** · 03-26-24, 04:00 PM

Pool 1
Liberal Arts	51-1
Moonlight	96-1
Sieze the grey	37-1
booth	52-1
Domestic product	79-1
stronghold	101-1

**batt33** · 03-26-24, 04:03 PM

pool2
Catching Freedom	52-1
Knights Bridge	19-1
Liberal Arts	46-1
locked	14-1
nash	18-1

**batt33** · 03-26-24, 04:04 PM

pool3
Amante Bianco	99-1
Born Noble	41-1
Just Steele	99-1
Catching Freedom	28-1
Knights Bridge	26-1
Liberal Arts	72-1
timberlake	30-1
track phantom	18-1

**batt33** · 03-26-24, 04:05 PM

Sires...any of thier offspring.
Candy Ride	58-1
good Magic	19-1
Into Mischief	18-1
Justify	15-1
Medaglia d'oro	18-1
Nyquist	11-1
Practical Joke	64-1
Quality Road	24-1
Tapit	39-1

**batt33** · 03-26-24, 04:06 PM

pool4
Born Noble	79-1
catching freedom	31-1
deterministic	93-1
timberlake	15-1
domestic product	80-1
honor marie	36-1
Knightsbridge	23-1
speak easy	41-1

**Pigpen** · 03-27-24, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

realize it's easy to take an undefeated horse whose at very low odds relative to the time before the race..japanese horses have been doing tremendous in the big middle east races in recent years.. the male influences of the japanese sire are off the charts for class and stamina ..would be my choice amongst the ones you have

JB, I think I may be a bit too enamored with this guy. Those odds are a bit low I will admit but I think he is going to be a really good one. I just hope he makes it to the gate. If I am not mistaken he has to win or run 2nd over in Dubai just go make the field.

**Pigpen** · 03-27-24, 07:28 AM

Batt, you should have some interesting entries on Derby Day. I like your odds to hit one and maybe double up with the sire futures. Domestic Product would fit nicely for you. Good luck!!!!!!

**batt33** · 03-27-24, 10:46 AM

Thanks Pigpen!
Like I said earlier, My dad likes doing these pools as it gives him something to follow... some picks are his and I don't mind throwing a couple of bucks at them.. just for the banter back and forth!

**batt33** · 04-02-24, 05:24 PM

Well, I lost another one of my future bets....Timberlake per DRF.

**Pigpen** · 04-03-24, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by batt33

Well, I lost another one of my future bets....Timberlake per DRF.

That is a shame Batt. You had him with some good numbers and he had a legit shot IMO.

**trytrytry** · 04-04-24, 05:26 PM

Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.

**batt33** · 04-04-24, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by trytrytry

Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.

post position .... a bump out of the gate ... or another speedball to pressure him early and it isn't easy... as it looks.....

**Pigpen** · 04-05-24, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by trytrytry

Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.

I respectfully disagree. His Holy Bull race raises some red flags IMO. He may win but will be an underlay.

**JBEX** · 04-05-24, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by trytrytry

Fierceness is winning this race avoid all these slightly looking overlays for derby, this year not happening.

I agree with you ..even with the potential chaos of the derby he's a better,faster horse ..ran a huge figure,did it easy so you couldn't ask for a better setup..he also ran a very fast bc juvenile so it's no fluke .. as far as regressing after good efforts i think thats more coincidental and he's more mature and over it..post draw still a wildcard but aside from that I can see not getting cute this year and try to get value in exactas and triples..

**Easy-Rider 66** · 04-14-24, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Pigpen

Hey gang, I hope you will post your current Derby futures here so I can root for them and discuss the topic. I know we have most posted but they are scattered. I have mine below:

Forever Young: 12-1
Hades: 33-1
Catching Freedom: 50-1
No More Time: 33-1 (Terrible bet)
Mystic Dan: 28-1

No More Time Injured in Breeze, Out of Kentucky Derby

No More Time, winner of the Sam F. Davis Stakes (G3) and runner-up in the Tampa Bay Derby (G3), is off the Kentucky Derby (G1) trail after sustaining an injury at the end of his April 14 breeze at Palm Meadows Training Center.

**Pigpen** · 04-15-24, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

No More Time Injured in Breeze, Out of Kentucky Derby

No More Time, winner of the Sam F. Davis Stakes (G3) and runner-up in the Tampa Bay Derby (G3), is off the Kentucky Derby (G1) trail after sustaining an injury at the end of his April 14 breeze at Palm Meadows Training Center.

Thanks for the notice ER. I saw this earlier also. I do not think he had much of a shot.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 04-15-24, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by Pigpen

Thanks for the notice ER. I saw this earlier also. I do not think he had much of a shot.

OK Pigpen GL on your remaining Players for the Deby.

**Pigpen** · 04-15-24, 09:17 AM

If Forever Young is training well up to the race he is my play. I think this guy may be for real. GL!!!!!

**Easy-Rider 66** · 04-16-24, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Pigpen

If Forever Young is training well up to the race he is my play. I think this guy may be for real. GL!!!!!

3 | FOREVER YOUNGOwner/Trainer: Susumu Fujita/Yoshito YahagiReal Steel—Forever Darling, by CongratsBreeder: Northern Racing (JPN)The struggles of UAE Derby (G2) horsesthrough the years have been noted in thisspace—they’ve never finished better than fifthin 19 Derby starts. So the obvious questionis, what is different about this year and UAEDerby winner Forever Young? His advantageis that he is already a proven internationalshipper, having traveled from Japan, wherehe went 3-for-3, to the Middle East, wherehe notched two graded stakes victories. Hearrived at Churchill Downs late last week andhas already taken a few spins beneath theTwin Spires—giving him about three weeksof on-track preparation for the May 4 Run forthe Rose