was the nathan horton hit a dirty hit?

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  • pinchylarue
    SBR MVP
    • 01-04-11
    • 2666

    #1
    was the nathan horton hit a dirty hit?
    I am actually scared for his health, but that aside, horton was caught admiring his pass.

    for once I don't have an opinion whether is was dirty or not.
    it is 50/50 for me.


    what are you're thoughts?
  • Jones10
    SBR MVP
    • 12-24-08
    • 2251

    #2
    Yea i agree with you, I hope he's ok. It wasn't really a blindside hit just a late hit. Def a penalty though.
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    • Viperpiper
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-12-10
      • 885

      #3
      Late hit is 3 seconds.... That was less than 2. Clean hit
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      • pickemtowinem
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        • 03-03-11
        • 1446

        #4
        It depends, are you a fan of new school Bettman ruined hockey, or the real old time game, where you have 3 steamboats after puck possession to be "fair game" for a hit like that?

        If you are the latter, its clean.
        If you are a new school fan, its dirty.

        But in "today's NHL" that's clearly a late hit, to a defense-less player. Suspension looming.

        And Horton's a heck of a hockey player....he looked like he didn't know his name after that one.

        Canucks should win this series easily without Horton in the B's lineup.
        He is the guy who gets the game winners.

        Been doing it since he was in Florida.
        Hope he's alright....


        There WILL BE A FIGHT IN THE 2nd PERIOD.
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        • rsnnh12
          SBR MVP
          • 09-26-10
          • 3487

          #5
          It was pretty friggin dirty... way late, and launched into him. Absolutely no excuses for shit like that.

          Hopefully Horton will be okay, and get to come back next season to get some revenge
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          • pickemtowinem
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            • 03-03-11
            • 1446

            #6
            If Boston is smart, they fight a Vancouver defense man, thus rendering them 4 deep on the blueline for the remainder of the game.
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            • yisman
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-01-08
              • 75682

              #7
              Yes, it was a late hit and he wasn't looking.
              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
              [/quote]

              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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              • Viperpiper
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-12-10
                • 885

                #8
                Clean
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                • yisman
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-01-08
                  • 75682

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Viperpiper
                  Clean hit
                  Originally posted by Viperpiper
                  Clean
                  We've heard your opinion.
                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                  [/quote]

                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                  • 4seasons
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-04-11
                    • 1793

                    #10
                    Total blind side cheap shot, caught his face while he went to lean shoulder/elbow into the player. If going for and getting the player's head is clean, then is anything dirty?
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                    • rsnnh12
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-26-10
                      • 3487

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Viperpiper
                      Late hit is 3 seconds.... That was less than 2. Clean hit
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                      • waco66
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                        • 04-14-09
                        • 1645

                        #12
                        it was really late thats all
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                        • Viperpiper
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-12-10
                          • 885

                          #13
                          It was late but it was clean, If there was elbow or leaving feet or charge then you have grounds for suspension but it's a clean hit alittle late. Watch it real time not slow mo... It's barley late... Ever heard of finishing your check. Obviously non of you play or coach hockey. If he gets up immiediatly it's a non call and non issue. Routine check happens 100 times a night mostly along the boards
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                          • FindTheLock
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-27-10
                            • 7194

                            #14
                            In my opinion it was a little late, but it wasn't dirty. The offensive player should know better than to skate straight down the middle while checking out a nice pair of on the side of the ice. He was looking to the left for way too long. He had plenty of time to snap his head back into the game and pay attention to what was in front of him which is why I have a hard time blaming the guy for laying him out. If he gets through the middle there he might be in prime position for a rebound chance.
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Viperpiper
                              It was late but it was clean, If there was elbow or leaving feet or charge then you have grounds for suspension but it's a clean hit alittle [sic] late. Watch it real time not slow mo... It's barley [sic] late... Ever heard of finishing your check. Obviously non [sic] of you play or coach hockey.
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • Mike Huntertz
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-19-09
                                • 11207

                                #16
                                Hope he's okay
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                                • pickemtowinem
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 03-03-11
                                  • 1446

                                  #17
                                  No fight, but the Bruins hit em in another way all together.
                                  wow.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 103264

                                    #18
                                    it was late for sure but I don't know if you saw the cbc feed where they showed Horton taunting Rome while he was on the Canucks bench. Its an emotional game and it was definitely pay back.

                                    just sayin'
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                                    • DennisGreen
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-27-08
                                      • 18369

                                      #19
                                      Late hit to an unsuspecting Horton. It had been an emotional game up to that and Horton should have had his head up though.
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                                      • rsnnh12
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-26-10
                                        • 3487

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Viperpiper
                                        It was late but it was clean, If there was elbow or leaving feet or charge then you have grounds for suspension but it's a clean hit alittle late. Watch it real time not slow mo... It's barley late... Ever heard of finishing your check. Obviously non of you play or coach hockey. If he gets up immiediatly it's a non call and non issue. Routine check happens 100 times a night mostly along the boards


                                        Hmmm, sure looks like he leaves his feet, huh? But hey, you're the hockey expert, right? Since "non" of us play or coach?
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                                        • DwightShrute
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-17-09
                                          • 103264

                                          #21
                                          no he did not leave his feet. Its obvious. Ya after he made contact but that isnt how leaving his feet is determined
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                                          • pickemtowinem
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 03-03-11
                                            • 1446

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                            it was late for sure but I don't know if you saw the cbc feed where they showed Horton taunting Rome while he was on the Canucks bench. Its an emotional game and it was definitely pay back.

                                            just sayin'
                                            premeditated would result in suspension for sure......

                                            20 years ago thats a clean hit, today its a penalty.

                                            Sad that it resulted in what appears to be a serious injury.....hitting is part of the game, and yes Horton should have been skating with his head up and not admiring his pass, but its not 20 years ago, its Bettman era hockey, and the end result was a penalty.

                                            "gotta protect the players"
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                                            • rsnnh12
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-26-10
                                              • 3487

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                              no he did not leave his feet. Its obvious. Ya after he made contact but that isnt how leaving his feet is determined
                                              It certainly should be, since the point of preventing "launching" is minimizing the force of those hits. Launching for the hit just as you hit someone has more force than a hit when you're already in the air... I don't know the exact wording of the rule, but that hit sure as hell was illegal in the spirit of the rule
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                                              • bigsmitty
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-12-10
                                                • 3026

                                                #24
                                                Clearly a penalty under the modern rules and I'm an old school defenceman. Cardinal rule that many seem to have forgotten is to protect yourself at all times...Classic shot of Thomas' stats: Saves-35 Hits- 1. That was stellar-crash the freaking net pay the price. Cheers
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                                                • pickemtowinem
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 03-03-11
                                                  • 1446

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bigsmitty
                                                  Clearly a penalty under the modern rules and I'm an old school defenceman. Cardinal rule that many seem to have forgotten is to protect yourself at all times...Classic shot of Thomas' stats: Saves-35 Hits- 1. That was stellar-crash the freaking net pay the price. Cheers
                                                  classic moment indeed.
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                                                  • k13
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-16-10
                                                    • 18104

                                                    #26
                                                    Keep your head up.

                                                    In the old days, that hit would never even be questioned.
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                                                    • stig99
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 02-27-11
                                                      • 291

                                                      #27
                                                      scot stevens would be proud of that hit and in his day wouldnt be a penalty....

                                                      but by todays standards that hit was late.... though the check itself is textbook ...he didnt leave his feet (only after contact was made do the skates leave the ice caused by the collision)... elbow down

                                                      first rule of hockey ever taught is NEVER ADMIRE YOUR PASS!
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                                                      • byronbb
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-13-08
                                                        • 3067

                                                        #28
                                                        It wasn't dirty but too late.
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                                                        • mike-dub
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-22-11
                                                          • 765

                                                          #29
                                                          looks late
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                                                          • LordCC
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-28-11
                                                            • 417

                                                            #30
                                                            He will get a suspension since there is a hearing for 11 am. 2 games max, but since he missed pretty much all of game 3, he will get 1 game. Personally, I don't think this is a huge loss for Vancouver, as Ballard can step in or the young kid Tanev who is just as good or better then Rome.

                                                            This hurts Boston way more as Horton is gone for the season more then likely and that is a key Gog in the wheel they don't have now.

                                                            But as for whether it is a clean hit or not, by definition it is a late hit. You have 1 sec or so to finish the hit and this was close to 3. It was late and hence the reaction it is getting.
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                                                            • Eleven
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 02-07-09
                                                              • 730

                                                              #31
                                                              Years ago, that would be nothing, today on account of the armour they wear as equipment, its an issue.
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                                                              • stig99
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 02-27-11
                                                                • 291

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Eleven
                                                                Years ago, that would be nothing, today on account of the armour they wear as equipment, its an issue.

                                                                agree 100% they are too armourplated today
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                                                                • PuckCoach
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-28-10
                                                                  • 468

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Dirty hit.

                                                                  It was high and late. I would love to see a new helmet design soon. Too many head injuries.
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                                                                  • rickbo528
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-22-08
                                                                    • 1842

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Typical Vancouver head hunting. Just hoping to catch someone in a vulnerable position. I hate this team. Hopefully some of their key players will get wasted.
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 103264

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by rickbo528
                                                                      Typical Vancouver head hunting. Just hoping to catch someone in a vulnerable position. I hate this team. Hopefully some of their key players will get wasted.
                                                                      Mark Messier made a career playing like that. Typical head hunting? Ridiculous!

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