Originally posted by chachi
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It should be a 20 min OT period. first 10 mins - 4 on 4. last 10 mins - 3 on 3.Comment -
Why would I make a dumb bet with you when it's fact that this bum has his name on the Cup. ******* useless trainers get their names on cups. Chris Pocklington had his old man's name engraved.Originally posted by chachiMy 90 pts against 90 of yours? Or if you're so goddamn sure of yourself, offer me +1000 or something ...
"When the Edmonton Oilers won their first championship in 1984, owner Peter Pocklington included his father's name - "Basil Pocklington" - among the names engraved. It was later scratched out with a series Xs."
Your 5th cousin was a BUM.Comment -
it should be 4 on 4 till someone winsComment -
5th cousin?Originally posted by PuckOff
Umm, right ... surely there are a lot of bums as you put it who were 1st round draft picks, members of 5 different Stanley Cup winning runs, and all that. A player only gets their name on if they meet the criteria for minutes and all that, but surely you know this given your athletic prowess probably extends no further than memorizing statistics and occasionally leaving your living room to attend a few games here and there.
Does he or did he ever brag about it ? Nope, in fact he sold off most of his memorabilia when he emigrated to Auzzieland awhile back as he knew what he'd accomplished and didn't need shelves full of stuff to remind him.
That's the difference - a bum has an attitude and feels the need to tell everyone how great he thinks he is, a winner doesn't have to as his accomplishments speak for themselves.
Was he the greatest thing since sliced bread, no of course not, but he was a damn site better than most and filled a gap in the Habs team. Bums are not fondly thought of by their fans, and I've yet to hear any Canadiens fans say anything negative about him, his talents, or what he did for the team during his tenure with them.
Do us all a favor and slink back into your ass groove in your armchair and do some more 12oz curls to get your wrist in shape for tonight's session.Comment -
Originally posted by jjgold
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shootouts and 1 pt for a loss is the fukkin dumbest thing of all time..
if you realy want to make this game exciting.. NO shootouts. no 1 pt for loss.. you win 2 pts, you lose, 0 pts.
this is how it should be played.
5 on 5 first 2 periods... then 4 on 4 last period.. teams that are down now 5-1 in the 3rd, can pour it on and go full attack mode and you'll see great 6-5 comebacks as game will open up.. fans will really look forward now to the 3rd period...and if tied after 3, then 10 min 4 on 4. if still tied, then 3 on 3 till someone scores. avg OT games will only go 6 min..
Avg scores will be like 5-4, 6-5, 7-3... etc.. not 2-1 like now.. shots on goal won't be 24-21 like now. it will be like 45-41.. fans will love it..
Hockey needs to change and fast.. not much room to move out there. too many blocked shots and not enough good scoring chances anymore like in the early 90's.. players are much bigger today...Comment -
They can always do the soccer thing. No OT. Winner gets 3 points..tie games get 1 point each.Comment -
Nicky,Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
I'm in Montreal in Nov. Are we on for our challenge? I know I insisted on ice, but I will take you on in a tennis court, but it has to be an orange hockey ball and not a tennis ball. Let me knaw ok.
Your Pal,
PuckOffComment -
Nicky -
Most of us would suggest going back to the old rules, no shootouts, no BS point for the loser, etc etc which is what was in effect during the days you mention ... along with no 2 line passes allowed and a few of the other modern 'pro-offense / anti-defense' rules not being in place.
I mean I grew up with Dollar Bill running the show and not allowing any TV coverage for the Blackhawks at all
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you're on.. i need to find a place here that has nets outdoors..Originally posted by PuckOff
ball hockey, orange ball.. 10 breakaways each... actually, since there's no 2 out of 3, or best of 5 in case one loses.. lets make it 15 breakaways each.. me vs you, you vs me.. no equipment.. no goalie sticks. we use our sticks..
whoever scores more, wins.. loser must come on here and say he was beat by the other guy.. and then admit the other is better.
i will school you for mocking me all this time. i will show you who's boss.. GAME ON.Comment -
Nicky,
I still hold you in high regard despite the fact that you have been exposed. Who, at the bash, admitted on video that they would tail your picks? I never once mocked you Claude.
Anyways, so we just shoot on a friggin empty net? I want a goalie. I need you to see the fear in the goalie's face after my first shot. No composite sticks. Orange ball(s) are to be kept ice cold so we will need a cooler to keep them cold.
Let me knwo what you think. Ok buddy??Comment -
Nicky,
I need 104 points. Shoot some over to me Pal.Comment -
no empty net, we shoot vs each other.. you goalie, then me goalie, etc.. what's with the orange balls in a freezer. that's dumb.. i will just buy 3 orange balls nice and soft, 5 min before we play..
i still don't get what you mean about me being exposed.. for what?? for tailing what picks??> i am lost..
and you want pts from me>>? you have 1340 pts, i only have 250 pts.. you should be sending me pts..
i want no excuses when i beat you about how the ball was not hard enough, or nets was too big, or whatever.. cause i will beat you.. and then i want an apology here on the board..
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totally agreed. that's bullshit man. teams get points even they lose -.-Originally posted by Miley CyrusComment -
I wish they'd get rid of points altogether. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. No ties, no special treatment for OT losses, just fokken wins and losses.
I like the shootouts but they happen too often. Extend OT to 10 minutes. That's all I want.Comment -
Orange balls in the cooler make them almost rock hard so they are easier to control and adds a wee bit of bounce.Originally posted by Nicky Santorono empty net, we shoot vs each other.. you goalie, then me goalie, etc.. what's with the orange balls in a freezer. that's dumb.. i will just buy 3 orange balls nice and soft, 5 min before we play..
i still don't get what you mean about me being exposed.. for what?? for tailing what picks??> i am lost..
and you want pts from me>>? you have 1340 pts, i only have 250 pts.. you should be sending me pts..
i want no excuses when i beat you about how the ball was not hard enough, or nets was too big, or whatever.. cause i will beat you.. and then i want an apology here on the board..
U sadi you were from East L.A., and now we know who you really are. C.G. Who, on video, said thay would tail any of your picks? Who gave you props? Name 1 person.
Nicky, I need points to eat. please sen me 104 pts. OH and BTW, will I be able to crash at yoru place in Montreal in Nov? I am there on business and will have to book an extra day on personal time so I'll need a place to crash. I swear I won't hit on your common law wife.Comment -
shootouts are not a fair way to decide a game. Save that stuff for All Star skills competitions.
They may be exciting, but it's not fair to determine the outcome of a team sport like that.
Teams can miss the playoffs simply because they are not cut out for shootouts.[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
I would do 10 minutes of OT in the regular season, 4 on 4.
If no goals, game is declared a tie.[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
if they give 3 points for win teams won't be happy about tie game. so there will be less tie games i think.Comment -
how about just get rid of OT all together like soccer gamesComment -
I think thats a much better way than the shootout.Originally posted by yismanComment -
I can dig 3 points for a win, and 1 for a tie, assuming no overtime.Comment -
Don't ever bring back the 2Line rule, opened the game up so damm much, don't really care for the shootouts thoughComment -
hockey has never been the same again since the 80's.. if you boys would have watched hockey back then, it was night and day compared to today.
Every night, there were 6-5 games with incredible scoring chances..open nets, breakaways.. We saw about 8, 3 on 1's.. and about 15, 2 on 1's per game..you name it, we saw it... so many times my habs were down 5-2 heading into 3rd period and would win 6-5. you were always in it.. Today, you are down 5-2 in the 3rd, turn the channel.. it's over.
There were rivalries like the battle of Quebec where habs hated Nordiques and vice versa. there were always brawls on the streets after every game.. you had the battle of Alberta with Calgary and Edmonton. both hated each other.. You had The Great One wayne gretzky in his prime breaking all sorts of records, which still hold today.. You had the greatest hockey player that ever lived playing in his prime.. Mario Lemieux. He was the greatest of all, no doubt..
Unlike today's NHL totals of 5.. back then, totals were always 10.5, and i once saw an 11.5, NO JOKE.. imagine seeing that today?? yeah right.
boys, you missed the boat.. it brings a tear to my eye just thinking of the 80's hockey. man, was it fun to watch.. today's hockey sucks. i feel sorry for today's kids watching this crap.. enjoy those 2-1 games this year.. enjoy those 49 block shots a game. enjoy those good 3 good scoring chances per game you will see this year..
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They could change to 3pts reg.win, 2 pts for an OT-win and keep playing full periods til a team wins. The losing team will then get 1pt for the ot.lossComment -
7 Minutes of 4 on 4,
followed by 7 minutes of 3 on 3.
no goals scored after that, game ends in a tie, both teams get a point, but you are going to rarely have any ties...with 14 minutes of thsi type of hockey, the rink will really open up and there will be plenty of scoring chances.
as for bringing back the 2 line pass? you have got to be kidding me. Lemaire and his Devils showed how to abuse the shit of that with his NZ trap. yeah, they were winning games 1-0, 2-1...but for the casual fan it was boring as hell to watch. Then all teams started doing it....then you had numerous 0-0 ties...and casual fans in non hockey towns that went to 0-0 game....well, tehres 20k people that arent coming again.
the new rules are great....the game actually rewards the skilled players again...
Fix the OT a bit, and its goldenComment -
For betting purposes I really like not having ties in the NHL. There's always going to be a moneyline side winner, which is good. 3 points for a regulation win would be better though, that way every game would be giving out the same amount of points. It must be disheartening for a team in a playoff race when they win their game and get 2 points, but the two teams they are chasing end up having a 3 point game. I think 3 points for regulation win would make playoff races better.Comment -
i love the idea, shootouts are lame!Comment -
I tip my hat to you kind sir, could not have put it better myself. If the Great One was able to do what he did, with the 2 line rule and all the rest in place, nobody can sit and say it would ruin the game to roll the clock back 20-25 years rules-wise ...Originally posted by Nicky Santorohockey has never been the same again since the 80's.. if you boys would have watched hockey back then, it was night and day compared to today.
Every night, there were 6-5 games with incredible scoring chances..open nets, breakaways.. We saw about 8, 3 on 1's.. and about 15, 2 on 1's per game..you name it, we saw it... so many times my habs were down 5-2 heading into 3rd period and would win 6-5. you were always in it.. Today, you are down 5-2 in the 3rd, turn the channel.. it's over.
There were rivalries like the battle of Quebec where habs hated Nordiques and vice versa. there were always brawls on the streets after every game.. you had the battle of Alberta with Calgary and Edmonton. both hated each other.. You had The Great One wayne gretzky in his prime breaking all sorts of records, which still hold today.. You had the greatest hockey player that ever lived playing in his prime.. Mario Lemieux. He was the greatest of all, no doubt..
Unlike today's NHL totals of 5.. back then, totals were always 10.5, and i once saw an 11.5, NO JOKE.. imagine seeing that today?? yeah right.
boys, you missed the boat.. it brings a tear to my eye just thinking of the 80's hockey. man, was it fun to watch.. today's hockey sucks. i feel sorry for today's kids watching this crap.. enjoy those 2-1 games this year.. enjoy those 49 block shots a game. enjoy those good 3 good scoring chances per game you will see this year..
Screw shootouts, OT = 4 on 4 for 10 mins, no goals, either 10 more minutes of 4-4, or its a friggin tie, end of story, none of this 3 on 3 malarky ...Comment -
the shootout is only good to excite the casual fan, but hardly a fair way to decide a winner. Ties suck though, so 4 on 4 for 10 mins, then 3 on 3 for 5 mins, then no goalie til someone scores. NO points for loser. No goalie would be mre exciting then a shootout IMOComment -
yup. spot on with your posts about 80's hockey as well. shootouts=gayer than aids.Originally posted by Nicky SantoroComment -
Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
brucey, can you imagine NBA OT handing out a half a win for the loser.. or how about the same in baseball when game goes to extra innings.. how dumb is that?? only nhl do this.
or even dumber.. can you picture NBA being tied after reg time,, then deciding game on a 3 pt contest, or even better, each team gets 3 Free Throws to decide the winner of the game, and if you lose, you still get a half win.. LOL
NHL is a JOKE.. a real fukkin joke..
why not make it like the old days.. you win, you get 2 pts.. you lose, you get 0 pts..
now when a team loses in OT, fans are not upset.. they still got 1 pt.. make it 0 pts for an OT loss and watch and see how stressful for the fans OT will now become..Comment -
back in the day when if a goalies GAA was around 3 he was a star. No if it's near 3 he should be in the minors somewhereOriginally posted by Nicky SantoroComment -
If they made it aggregate score after 5 minutes of OT (as opposed to sudden death) this would be a lot of fun to watch. You could even replace the shootout with this and then go sudden death after 5 minutes of regular 4-4 overtime with a goalie to decide the game. It would be more exciting than the shootout.Originally posted by pavyracerComment -
dude, I was right there with ya, no home games on TV was crazy. I watched so many games and spent so much $$ at the old Jakes Pizza in Lisle in the early 90's that I could have been part owner.Originally posted by chachiI grew up with Dollar Bill running the show and not allowing any TV coverage for the Blackhawks at all
dam, i could really go for a Chicago pizza right now.....Comment
