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  • TechnicalTrader
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    • 05-09-16
    • 1434

    #1
    TechnicalTrader's 1st Period Totals O/U Thread
    I had a pretty profitable MLB first inning O/U thread going last MLB season and have spent a good two months trying to create a similar model with that type MLB theory/method/model on the NHL.

    So far this season it has been up about 24 units, going 157-109 on the unders. I also have a similar model which filters out overs but at a much lower rate. The under model went 3-2 yesterday and has been 11-9 over the last 20 games, so now should be a decent time to start posting some picks. This model has picked 60 games since January 1st, so expect an average of about 3-5 picks a night. The over model is 56-35 so far.

    I do a lot of my research using SDQL and almost all of my models a written in it. Depending on when killersports posts lines, I should have my picks up between 9AM EST and a good 30 minutes before the first game.

    My money management is not in units and depending on signals I will risk 1% to 6% of BR on each pick. So if you are going to tail, please use it as I post. I usually use the same "unit size" or % a day for all types of picks (unders or overs). In other words, I will rarely post a 2% and a 3% under pick on the same day.

    As of now, I am looking at 1 pick but am waiting for the Avalanche/Canucks line to open.

    For those who would like to take a look at some of my work, it's here:



    I ended the season up around 70% after the system cooled down a bit towards the end of the season. For those who played unit=%/BR, they added a clean 50+ units of a span of 3 1/2 months.

    Again, if you are confused about my money management, just bet 1 unit per %/BR I post. For those who bet a bit cautious, feel free to go 0.5 units per %/BR.

    Feel free to throw questions at me, I'm here to make money, learn and teach!

    Bankroll day 1: $1000.00
    Record: 0-0
    Total Profit: 00.00%
    Bankroll day 1: $1000.00

    Hit rate: 00.00%
  • knicksrulez
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    • 10-26-16
    • 391

    #2
    Checking in, will be tailing from the beginning
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    • oilcountry99
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      • 08-29-10
      • 707

      #3
      TT...good luck and continued success with your NHL strategy!
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      • TechnicalTrader
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        • 05-09-16
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        #4
        Thanks guys. Oil, good to see you in here. Btw, I've been playing that away team parlay system from across the street with much more success, using my money management system.. That system is gold, despite the recent loss! I learned a lot from what Dan has done over there!!
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        • oilcountry99
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          • 08-29-10
          • 707

          #5
          Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
          Thanks guys. Oil, good to see you in here. Btw, I've been playing that away team parlay system from across the street with much more success, using my money management system.. That system is gold, despite the recent loss! I learned a lot from what Dan has done over there!!
          Good to hear! I'm running something on the side with it as well....i'll have to see where I'm at at seasons end. Did you post your MM strategy there? I'm going to go back and check. Wish you'd have stayed and contributed...the NHL forum over there is very good.
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          • Mike Huntertz
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            • 08-19-09
            • 11207

            #6
            Looking forward with interest, GL.
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            • oilcountry99
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              • 08-29-10
              • 707

              #7
              TT,
              Do you stay consistent with a % of the DAY 1 BR throughout the season? or do you Risk a % of the current days BR?
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              • TechnicalTrader
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                • 05-09-16
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                #8
                Originally posted by oilcountry99
                TT,
                Do you stay consistent with a % of the DAY 1 BR throughout the season? or do you Risk a % of the current days BR?
                I risk a % of that day's BR total. Anything else is for amateurs if you ask me. One of these days we will all look back at "units" and laugh...
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                • oilcountry99
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                  • 08-29-10
                  • 707

                  #9
                  What are the average odds you've been getting? I'm not convinced on the % of days BR as being the way to go for me personally.
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                  • sedwards86
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                    • 10-25-16
                    • 451

                    #10
                    Good luck, TT. You have a very sharp mind so I expect this will be good.

                    It's awesome that you have success with unders. They can be tough to spot.
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                    • TechnicalTrader
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                      • 05-09-16
                      • 1434

                      #11
                      yesterday's picks on a testing account:

                      422463184-1 1/24/17 6:59pm $5.50 $5.24 $10.74 Win 1/24/17 8:35pm NHL Hockey 17 Minnesota Wild/Dallas Stars 1st Period Under 1½ -105*
                      422462324-1 1/24/17 6:56pm $5.50 $5.00 $10.50 Win 1/24/17 7:05pm NHL Hockey 3 Columbus Blue Jackets/New York Islanders 1st Period Under 1½ -110*
                      422462324-2 1/24/17 6:56pm $5.50 $5.78 $11.28 Win 1/24/17 7:05pm NHL Hockey 5 St. Louis Blues/Pittsburgh Penguins 1st Period Under 1½ +105*
                      422462324-3 1/24/17 6:56pm $5.50 $3.79 $0.00 Loss 1/24/17 7:05pm NHL Hockey 7 Detroit Red Wings/Boston Bruins 1st Period Under 1½ -145*
                      422462324-4 1/24/17 6:56pm $5.50 $4.40 $0.00 Loss 1/24/17 7:35pm NHL Hockey 11 Washington Capitals/Ottawa Senators 1st Period Under 1½ -125*
                      -115 is about the average line I get on 5D
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                      • TechnicalTrader
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                        • 05-09-16
                        • 1434

                        #12
                        Still waiting on the Avalanche line...

                        Lets get started with:

                        1/25/17 3:34pm $10.00 $9.09 Pending 1/25/17 8:05pm NHL Hockey 53 Philadelphia Flyers/New York Rangers 1st Period Under 1½ -110*
                        I'll start out risking 1%. Now if I get a signal on the Avalanche game, I will most likely risk 2-3% there.My gut feeling is not the best with these two teams, but I have to go with my signals.
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                        • TechnicalTrader
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                          • 05-09-16
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by sedwards86
                          Good luck, TT. You have a very sharp mind so I expect this will be good.

                          It's awesome that you have success with unders. They can be tough to spot.
                          Thanks, now let's make some money!
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                          • oilcountry99
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                            • 08-29-10
                            • 707

                            #14
                            I'm seeing AVS over +125, under -138 at pinny
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                            • TechnicalTrader
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                              • 05-09-16
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by oilcountry99
                              I'm seeing AVS over +125, under -138 at pinny
                              First period play????
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                              • oilcountry99
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                                • 08-29-10
                                • 707

                                #16
                                Yes 1st period
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                                • TechnicalTrader
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                                  • 05-09-16
                                  • 1434

                                  #17
                                  My bad. I need the gameline posted on killersports in order to run my sdql query...
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                                  • oilcountry99
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                                    • 08-29-10
                                    • 707

                                    #18
                                    What's the hold up LOL! Killersports has had all day
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                                    • TechnicalTrader
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                                      • 05-09-16
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                                      #19
                                      No second play today
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                                      • HockKid11
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                                        • 09-26-16
                                        • 273

                                        #20
                                        Hey TT, will be tailing the 2-3% plays GL!
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                                        • TechnicalTrader
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                                          #21
                                          Very surprised that the first two goals (and only two goals) were scored in the third period. As of now, I am looking at three unders but this can change depending on where those line go. Obviously, a first string goalie will move a line, so anything can happen until gametime. I'll look to keep the train rolling and stay in the green. Killersports only has 6 of the 13 games up, so I am sure we will add a few more games. Expect around 5-7 plays today.

                                          HochKid, it looks they will all be 1%ers


                                          Bankroll day 1: $1000.00
                                          Record: 1-0
                                          Total Profit: 00.91%
                                          Bankroll day 2: $1009.09

                                          Hit rate: 100.00%
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                                          • HockKid11
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                                            • 09-26-16
                                            • 273

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                            Very surprised that the first two goals (and only two goals) were scored in the third period. As of now, I am looking at three unders but this can change depending on where those line go. Obviously, a first string goalie will move a line, so anything can happen until gametime. I'll look to keep the train rolling and stay in the green. Killersports only has 6 of the 13 games up, so I am sure we will add a few more games. Expect around 5-7 plays today.

                                            HochKid, it looks they will all be 1%ers


                                            Bankroll day 1: $1000.00
                                            Record: 1-0
                                            Total Profit: 00.91%
                                            Bankroll day 2: $1009.09

                                            Hit rate: 100.00%
                                            Ah okay. 1% gonna be tough to make a dent in a BR mind? Still following though. GL sir looking forward to the MLB season too!
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                                            • TechnicalTrader
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by HockKid11
                                              Ah okay. 1% gonna be tough to make a dent in a BR mind? Still following though. GL sir looking forward to the MLB season too!

                                              I run 8 different NHL systems, If I can end the season up 20 units (20%) with each of them, I'll be a happy man. Hell, even being up 10-15% BR after any sports season (6 months of play) is better than what highly paid investment bankers can produce... Being humble with little is sometimes better than risking your neck.
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                                              • TechnicalTrader
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                                                • 05-09-16
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                                                #24
                                                BTW, was screwing around at work, playing with the same SDQL but tweaked it for the NBA and am looking at the following O/U FT results:

                                                Overs:
                                                2013: 15-11 57.7%
                                                2014: 11-6 64.7%
                                                2015: 12-6 66.7%
                                                2016: 7-1 87.5%

                                                1st quarter is almost identical, performing just a few % under what the FT O/U's are. Ma only issue is the fact that this season has performed extremely well and it might be due to reverse....

                                                The last 2016 signal I got was on January 6th, so it might take a few days for one to pop up. I'll post the pick here for those interested in following
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                                                • TechnicalTrader
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                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                  • 1434

                                                  #25
                                                  Performance by month, dating back to the beginning of the 2013 season:


                                                  Games ATS O/U SU
                                                  13 8-4-1 (5.69, 66.7%) 7-6-0 (-0.58, 53.8%) 7-6 (1.92, 53.8%) month = 11
                                                  13 5-8-0 (-1.92, 38.5%) 9-4-0 (4.00, 69.2%) 3-10 (-7.46, 23.1%) month = 12
                                                  12 6-6-0 (3.83, 50.0%) 9-3-0 (6.46, 75.0%) 4-8 (-0.83, 33.3%) month = 1
                                                  6 2-4-0 (-4.50, 33.3%) 5-1-0 (10.75, 83.3%) 0-6 (-9.67, 0.0%) month = 2
                                                  18 9-9-0 (4.67, 50.0%) 11-7-0 (2.00, 61.1%) 6-12 (-1.94, 33.3%) month = 3
                                                  6 2-4-0 (-1.58, 33.3%) 4-2-0 (12.17, 66.7%) 1-5 (-9.67, 16.7%) month = 4
                                                  1 1-0-0 (2.00, 100.0%) 0-1-0 (-11.00, 0.0%) 1-0 (1.00, 100.0%) month = 5
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                                                  • oilcountry99
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                                                    • 08-29-10
                                                    • 707

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                    I run 8 different NHL systems, If I can end the season up 20 units (20%) with each of them, I'll be a happy man. Hell, even being up 10-15% BR after any sports season (6 months of play) is better than what highly paid investment bankers can produce... Being humble with little is sometimes better than risking your neck.
                                                    Is this your most successful NHL system?
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                                                    • TechnicalTrader
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by oilcountry99
                                                      Is this your most successful NHL system?
                                                      No, Dan's Parlay system performs slightly better. This system is way easier to play and less risky. Dan's chase can really hurt you if you lose one of the first 30-40 chases, due to the -50% BR risk per chase.

                                                      My MLB system is by far the most superior of them all. I'm a baseball guy, although I've played hockey within an organized structure as a teenager and understand the game.

                                                      Both systems are very similar...
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                                                      • TechnicalTrader
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                                                        #28
                                                        Risking 1.5% with each pick.

                                                        Note, k'sports haven't posted the Flyers/Leafs line yet. I might get an under signal there.

                                                        1/26/17 11:42am $15.14 $12.62 Pending 1/26/17 7:05pm NHL Hockey 9 Montreal Canadiens/New York Islanders 1st Period Under 1½ -120*
                                                        1/26/17 11:42am $15.14 $11.65 Pending 1/26/17 7:35pm NHL Hockey 13 Calgary Flames/Ottawa Senators 1st Period Under 1½ -130*
                                                        1/26/17 11:42am $15.14 $12.62 Pending 1/26/17 8:35pm NHL Hockey 21 Buffalo Sabres/Dallas Stars 1st Period Under 1½ -120*
                                                        I also might double up on that MTL/NYI game because the signal is pretty strong. Not sure yet...
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                                                        • juicername
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                                                          • 10-14-15
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                                                          #29
                                                          Tailing with my first NHL 1st period picks ever, lol. Thanks for all your work TT.
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                                                          • TechnicalTrader
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by juicername
                                                            Tailing with my first NHL 1st period picks ever, lol. Thanks for all your work TT.
                                                            Thanks. Keep in mind that I bet similar to an investor, so it is all about long term performance. I'll have down days, weeks but long term I will be up. And also be wise with money management! Let's do this!!
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                                                            • juicername
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                                                              • 10-14-15
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                              Thanks. Keep in mind that I bet similar to an investor, so it is all about long term performance. I'll have down days, weeks but long term I will be up. And also be wise with money management! Let's do this!!
                                                              Of course. In it for the long haul and you will never hear me whining if you were to hit a cold streak. Checked out your MLB thread from time to time but never followed any plays there, but I know enough about you to know you're as legit as it comes when it comes to those totals .
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                                                              • TechnicalTrader
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by juicername
                                                                Of course. In it for the long haul and you will never hear me whining if you were to hit a cold streak. Checked out your MLB thread from time to time but never followed any plays there, but I know enough about you to know you're as legit as it comes when it comes to those totals .
                                                                Thanks Juice. I'm hoping to get a similar vibe in this thread to what we had in the MLB or DD'c MLB thread. I really enjoyed the feedback and also learned a lot while posting.

                                                                What a lot of people don't realize is, when you open a thread like this where you offer your picks it puts a little extra pressure on you which I really like. It helps keep you focused and on track!

                                                                Enjoy your stay and thanks in advance for any sort of feedback.

                                                                BTW, where the hell is Mang at??? He's usually in almost every thread. MANG CALL OUT!!! Where are you?
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                                                                • TechnicalTrader
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                                                                  • 05-09-16
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  2 for 3 last night. Looking to keep the ball rolling.

                                                                  BTW, all of these picks can also be used for FT O/U plays. The FT winning % with this model is 107-77 YTD. I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but 18% (or 18 units) YTD isn't that bad either. Last year it went 157-109 and in 2014 it was 172-140 which isn't outstanding but still plus money.



                                                                  Bankroll day 1: $1000.00
                                                                  Record: 3-1
                                                                  Total Profit: 1.82%
                                                                  Bankroll day 3: $1018.22

                                                                  Hit rate: 75.00%
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                                                                  • TechnicalTrader
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                                                                    • 05-09-16
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    For those interested, I've successfully remodeled this for the NBA and it works like a charm. Expect a good 60-64% hit rate with those picks also:

                                                                    NBA betting and handicapping forum: discuss basketball picks, NBA odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results.
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                                                                    • TechnicalTrader
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                                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                                      • 1434

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Posted a few unders in the NBA thread for those who are interested.

                                                                      NBA betting and handicapping forum: discuss basketball picks, NBA odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results.
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