possible NHL system

BigDaddyG · 12-05-09, 07:19 AM

Rocketman
Thanks for the spreadsheet I have modified it to include all of my plays incl JM NBA until the end of the season. I do think you may be missing some plays in early dec. For instance isn't tonight a play with Atlanta?
[A] Atlanta Thrashers 12/5/09 Sat @Florida
[b] Atlanta Thrashers 12/7/09 Mon @Toronto
[C] Atlanta Thrashers 12/9/09 Wed @Calgary
As well as Wash for tonight. There may be others in the month of Dec.
Let me know what you think and if you want my version of your spreadsheet with the BB throughout the rest of the season I can post it. It is color coded so you can tell if you are to make an NBA or NHL wager.
Thanks,

johncrud · 12-05-09, 02:04 PM

mcbain is clueless for saying lines dont go as high as -300

since this system started, we have encountered -300 lines almost every single day.

good system but the guy is totally clueless..

mcbain · 12-05-09, 02:30 PM

Thanks for your input John. I said lines will not always be -300 and they are not always -300.

What's the record for the system this year so far?

johncrud · 12-05-09, 02:35 PM

You can have a record like 100-0 but you aint going to make much profit anyways per series. For JM NBA system, I easily wager to win 200 bucks per each series and I make big bucks. Another great system is NFL. The record is perfect so far. So it is not only your system that is doing well in record-wise. I want a system that has both record and good profit.

Sytem with great record-wise but horrible in making good bucks..

mcbain · 12-05-09, 02:49 PM

Yes, please do pass. Stick with NBA and NFL.

You might have missed these series wins earlier this year by the way...
BUF vs. FLA Oct 21 1.741
DAL vs. ANA Oct 21 1.77
DET vs. VAN Oct 27 1.95
FLA vs. BUF Nov 18 1.63
EDM vs. DET Dec 3 1.65

and many more with decent odds. Forgive me for using decimal odds, I'm Canadian.

Sure, sometimes those puck lines are low, sometimes they aren't bad, either play it or don't, no reason to attack me.

matelionis · 12-05-09, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by johncrud

You can have a record like 100-0 but you aint going to make much profit anyways per series. For JM NBA system, I easily wager to win 200 bucks per each series and I make big bucks. Another great system is NFL. The record is perfect so far. So it is not only your system that is doing well in record-wise. I want a system that has both record and good profit.

Sytem with great record-wise but horrible in making good bucks..

John, I like how you say "I want a system that has both record and good profit." Everyone wants that ****tard. I have an idea, how about you do some backtesting on NHL or NBA or NFL and tell us YOUR ****in' system. How 'bout that asshole?? My suggestion to you is this, get the **** out of the NHL forum.

Blargh · 12-06-09, 01:40 AM

I play a slightly modified system that was based on McBains. Basically I play all 3+ road trips including the first of each team for the season and I have made good bucks. Average PL odds have been -233 and five plays have been -300 or higher. The -300 or higher odds are 4-1 which is outperforming the actual odds. Yes I know it is a small sample size.

I appreciate McBain for sharing his system and starting this thread where a lot of good ideas and very excellent spreadsheets have been shared.

johncrud · 12-06-09, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by matelionis

John, I like how you say "I want a system that has both record and good profit." Everyone wants that ****tard. I have an idea, how about you do some backtesting on NHL or NBA or NFL and tell us YOUR ****in' system. How 'bout that asshole?? My suggestion to you is this, get the **** out of the NHL forum.

who are you supposed to be?? are you mcbain's personal ass licking assistant??

*****, know your role and stfu.. Mcbains system sucks.. And what are you going to do about it.. Typically uneducated dumbass want to be tough on the internet knowing they are going to get pounded in real life. ]..

In fact, I need a perfect system right now... Why don't you get your ass going and start make one for me... I am demanding now..

bruceBRUCEbruce · 12-06-09, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by johncrud

Mcbains system sucks...

not really. 3 "A" bet winners yesterday, straight up.

thanks, McBain.

mcbain · 12-06-09, 11:00 AM

Blargh: thank you for your usual reasoned and informative response containing actual usable information.

Congrats to everyone that hit those three winners last night and all the rest this season.

egr99 · 12-06-09, 02:19 PM

mcbain

blargh

egr99

matelionis · 12-07-09, 07:37 PM

Carolina tonight? Or skip 'em because they are 0-10 on the road?

pboozer57 · 12-08-09, 01:34 AM

Carolina winner winner chicken dinner!

threeg5 · 12-11-09, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by johncrud

Typically uneducated dumbass want to be tough on the internet knowing they are going to get pounded in real life. ]..

In fact, I need a perfect system right now... Why don't you get your ass going and start make one for me... I am demanding now..

I should not respond to this but, the funny side I can't contain. John Mcbain, Blargh, and egr99 each have more generosity and give adamn about people in their last drop of pi$$ everyday then you can muster to produce in any given amount of time. Son for you to step into Mcbains forum and say anything against him makes you the equivalent of your above statement. As far as his hockey system not sure what your idea of perfection is but, again I believe that you are the one that is failing himself. Now I and evryone else on here are going to expect you to lashback like a ] Typically uneducated dumbass that wants to be tough on the internet knowing they are going to get pounded in real life.
So go ahead and give us all a laugh and say what you will about being uneducated but, I think you understand what just happened.
And just in case I will be at a particular place on beale street where it happens in memphis tonight friday and I will be in a cage backing up exactly what you believe I am to be, an uneducated dumbass that talks sh!t on the internet knowing I am going to get pounded in real life!

Hey mcbain, blargh, egr99, montanamax, panekkkk, pistolpete and whoever I might be forgetting.

Peace
3g5

slickeddie · 12-20-09, 01:17 AM

You can have a record like 100-0 but you aint going to make much profit anyways per series.

Now I'm totally screwed!!!

netinfo · 12-20-09, 02:23 AM

You can have a record like 100-0 but you aint going to make much profit anyways per series.

It depends. If you're trying to win a unit, then 100-0 is a 100 unit profit. It depends then on how big is your unit in proportion to your bankroll. If you have a $1,000 bankroll, and your unit size is 1% of it, or $10, then $10 x 100 series wins is $1,000. A 100-0 season, therefore, doubles your bankroll in one season. This is a very good strategy, which is not too risky or too cheap. A good goal would then be to try and double one's bankroll every season.

netinfo

mcbain · 12-20-09, 11:39 AM

Welcome back to the voice of reason, netinfo!

pm9964 · 12-20-09, 11:41 AM

what is the current system record YTD?

mcbain · 12-20-09, 11:46 AM

I've got it at 59-0.

If you bet every road series with no filters, it is 80-0 so far.

netinfo · 12-20-09, 09:22 PM

ramper62, thanks for the point bro!

netinfo

netinfo · 12-20-09, 09:23 PM

Welcome back to the voice of reason, netinfo!

netinfo

lcf · 12-20-09, 09:44 PM

any play tonight?

ramper62 · 12-22-09, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by netinfo

ramper62, thanks for the point bro!

netinfo

Hey...anytime. Thanks for the positive informative support to all in this thread...

G/L.../r

TopDog · 12-28-09, 08:18 PM

Wow, I can't believe this thread is so quite. The hockey season has been awesome so far this season. Never
been a hockey fan until now.

paw · 12-31-09, 03:50 AM

McBain.

Great Job on the Thread and congrats for all your guys whom have done well so far this season.

paw

Blargh · 01-06-10, 04:17 PM

Anyone had filters that filtered out the 3 recent losses?

Columbus Dec 19-23, they did win on the 4th game if you weren't only playing the first three
Pittsburgh Dec 29 to Jan 2nd, also lost Jan 3rd on Road. Would have won game #1 if you played and paid for Alt PL
Anahiem Dec 31 to Jan 3rd

I was riding high until just before Xmas, hit rough patches in multiple systems at the exact same time, started to dig my way back and then had the Ana and Pitts losses put me back at almost my starting point for the NHL season.

pelos879 · 01-08-10, 03:09 PM

What happened to this thread?

pm9964 · 01-17-10, 10:20 PM

yea what happened to this thread?

peterpan19 · 01-18-10, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Blargh

Anyone had filters that filtered out the 3 recent losses?

Columbus Dec 19-23, they did win on the 4th game if you weren't only playing the first three
Pittsburgh Dec 29 to Jan 2nd, also lost Jan 3rd on Road. Would have won game #1 if you played and paid for Alt PL
Anahiem Dec 31 to Jan 3rd

I was riding high until just before Xmas, hit rough patches in multiple systems at the exact same time, started to dig my way back and then had the Ana and Pitts losses put me back at almost my starting point for the NHL season.

CLB and ANA had no winning record away from home... PIT opened as a dog... so you have to take the PL... even if it -300... if you tokk them on the ML and you lost... take the lost and dont chase them anymore...
more questions PM me...

scratbandit · 02-03-10, 02:07 PM

Looks like it died.

mcbain · 02-05-10, 12:28 AM

I think there are two things we could do to 'tweak' the NHL system:

1. play only teams with winning road records (don't start until mid-November at the earliest). That was first suggested by cheme82 at SBR when we were tossing around this idea for the system originally. I personally have done basically this, skipping many series, and avoided series losses by ANA and CLM by doing so.

2. play moneyline only and do not ever bet the +1.5. Some serious number crunching would have to be done to find if this would have helped because I am not sure how many extra (cheaper) losses this would have added over the course of the season. Anyone tracking how betting moneyline only would have fared?

I have the visiting team any road trip system (playing games 1-3 only) I proposed at the start of this thread at a 91-3 record with the only losses by Anaheim, Columbus and Dallas, all teams with losing road records.

pm9964 · 10-30-11, 10:00 PM

Anyone wanna play this this year?

psycho44 · 11-01-11, 01:50 AM

I'll attempt to track this. Playing teams .500 and above.

Vancouver (A) -125
Anaheim (B) +175

* Anaheim in 2nd series of road trip

Inkwell77 · 11-01-11, 02:32 AM

This thread is all over the map.
There could be some potential with a couple of these systems. I like the aspect of SBR where people are getting creative, what happened to this??

podonne · 11-02-11, 12:15 AM

This is quite a long thread.

Did any of this work come up with a reason as to why this would be successful? I'm not saying that the system doesn't work, I'm just wondering if there is a reasonable explanation. Something like NHL road teams tend to be underbet? Road teams are underbet after a previous road win?

I'm not of the "chases don't work" as a categorical denial, but wondering if there's an underlying cause as to why a chase approach here is causing value.