John Morrison's NHL 2013/2014

rainman416 · 10-02-13, 12:06 PM

So confused but intrigued by this Version 1/2 stuff.. Whats goin' on up there John?

cleonhr · 10-02-13, 12:10 PM

Here’s the NBA betting system in detail. As long as you strictly follow my betting guidelines below, you will be winning almost all of your NHL bets.
In a nutshell, you will be betting that one team is going to win at least one game in a consecutive 3-game away series versus the opposing teams where at least 1 of their opponents is from the opposite conference. Always bet on the +1.5 Run Line if your team is the underdog, and always bet on the Money Line if your team is the favorite. This is a bet that you will win more than 98% of the time.
Before I go into detail on how to make the bets, I will go over the money management system. There are only three bet values you should stick to: Bet A; Bet B; and Bet C.
Bet A = Your beginning bet. I recommend you set your beginning bet at $100 when you first start out.
Bet B = In case Bet A fails, you make bet B to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A, plus any profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A was $100, your Bet B can be $250.
Bet C = In case Bet B fails, you make bet C to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A plus Bet B, plus profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A plus Bet B was $350, your Bet C can be $650.
There is no Bet D, or E, or anything thereafter. If you lose Bet C, you lose the bet. However, do not be concerned, because losing a Bet C is something that will almost never happen. I’ll talk more about that later. Here’s the betting system:
1.
Check the NHL schedule and mark down any series where one team will be playing at least 3 consecutive games on the road.
2.
For the team that will be playing 3 or more consecutive games on the road, check to make sure that at least 1 of their 3 opponents is from the opposite conference.
3.
If at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposite conference, then make a bet A for the team on the road on its first day.
4.
If you lose bet A, make a bet B on their next game for the same team.
5.
If you lose bet B, make a bet C on their next game for the same team.
Now keep this in mind: ALWAYS bet on the money line if the team you’re betting on is the favorite to win. ALWAYS bet on the +1.5 puck line if the team you’re betting on is the underdog. You can check to see which team is the favorite or the underdog by looking at the puck line in the bet lineup. A team showing a +1.5 in the puck line means
they are the underdog. A team showing a -1.5 in the run line means they are the favorite. Basically, you always take the +1.5 puck line if it is offered for your team. If the puck line shows as -1.5, then take the money line instead.
Remember: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 puck line, you’ll win the bet even if your team loses by 1!

Important: When a team is going into a 6-game series, DO NOT break it down into two different 3-game series. You should only play the first 3 games of the road trip, regardless of how many consecutive road games your team is going on (assuming of course that at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposing conference)
Another exception is that you should never bet on a team that is starting their series in one of their first 3 games of the season. The reason for this is that at the start of the season, the oddsmakers are still not entirely familiar with the strengths of the teams, and as a result would heighten the level of risks involved with betting. Wait until your team has played at least 3 games in the NHL season before making any wagers that fall under the system.
One final exception is that you should never bet on a team who has the worst road record in league. A team with the worst road record in the league carry a much greater risk, and it's better to be safe than sorry.
Now, I want to give you an example from the 2008-09 NHL season to make sure you’re able to follow the betting method. On 10/27/08, the Boston Bruins (Eastern Conference) had a road game versus the Edmonton Oilers (Western Conference). Their next game was also a road game versus Vancouver (Western Conference) on 10/28. On 10/30 they had another road game versus Calgary (Western Conference). This means that Boston had three consecutive games on the road where at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from an opposing conference. Note that in this case, all 3 of Boston's opponents are from the opposite conference. However, keep in mind that as long as at least just 1 of the teams can be from the opposite conference in order to make the series eligible for play.
Since this Boston series qualify as a play, on 10/27/08 you would bet on the Boston Bruins in the +1.5 puck line in their game versus the Edmonton Oilers, starting with the amount you’ve set to bet on in your Bet A. As it turned out, Boston won the game 1-0. You would stop here and move on to the next eligible series.
If, however, Boston had lost on that A bet, then you would have needed to follow up on the bet on 10/28 when Boston played Vancouver, and again on the puck line since the +1.5 puck line was offered. Had your B bet lost again, then you would need to place a C bet on Boston again on 10/30 (again on the +1.5 puck line since that was offered).
I can assure you that you will almost never lose a betting series by following my system. In an entire NHL season, as long as you follow my guidelines, your chances of winning by the B bet level is over 90%. Your chances of losing bet C in any series is close to 0%. Bet under these rules and you will profit. Whenever you win a bet in any series, stop and move on to the next one. If you have a huge bankroll, your Bet A can start out higher, provided that you have enough in your bankroll to make a Bet B and a Bet C if needed. Similarly, if you have a small bankroll, your Bet A can be smaller. Enjoy

cleonhr · 10-02-13, 12:11 PM

Version 2 is not bothered if team goes to opposite conference. Basicly it can visit 3 games in a row teams from their conference.
And, I'm not John, I'm just following his system.

cleonhr · 10-02-13, 12:12 PM

Today plays:

(A) Bet - Anaheim Ducks +1,5 @ -290 - 1 Unit

USAF MP · 10-02-13, 12:17 PM

this seems really interesting how much u putting on that -290 that looks ugly lol

cleonhr · 10-02-13, 12:22 PM

That is the systems rule. I'm gonna play +0,5 Regulation time on Anaheim

USAF MP · 10-02-13, 01:52 PM

Ok im still new to all of this but trying to get my feet wet ur betting 1 Percent of ur roll on DUCKS tonight ?

rainman416 · 10-02-13, 02:08 PM

According to your system you should not be making any bets this early in the season correct? Doesn't it say to wait until after game 3 of season?

Also, if the line is -290 and your A bet is 100.. Are you betting 100 or are you betting $290 to WIN $100..?

Thanks. Cool Idea.. but it seems a little risky.. For example.. IF you did end up losing A,B,C, I'm guessing that would set you back about the same amount as you'd win after 7-8 winning series...

Have you back tested this at all? Hard to do with last season obv. with a shortened season.. but would be interested to know how this system would have turned out in the 2010/2011 season..

cleonhr · 10-02-13, 02:16 PM

SBR Forum - Sports Betting Talk - Sportsbook Review Forum

http://forum.sbrforum.com/hockey-betting/885997-john-morrison-2010-11-nhl-thread.html

Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

rainman416 · 10-02-13, 02:19 PM

Very cool

BOL this season. Will follow along, may tail some with $10 A bets. just to be on-board

My Unit's are usually only $20.. so with B and C being doubled from A.. I can't do more than $10

knugen · 10-02-13, 03:14 PM

how did this system do last year?

Andy3568 · 10-03-13, 08:36 AM

A bunch of the bets you have listed at the beginning of the season violate the rule to wait until the teams have played 3 games before making a bet. If you follow that rule, the first bet is on 10/11/13 on the Kings.

matelionis · 10-03-13, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by rainman416

According to your system you should not be making any bets this early in the season correct? Doesn't it say to wait until after game 3 of season?

Also, if the line is -290 and your A bet is 100.. Are you betting 100 or are you betting $290 to WIN $100..?

Thanks. Cool Idea.. but it seems a little risky.. For example.. IF you did end up losing A,B,C, I'm guessing that would set you back about the same amount as you'd win after 7-8 winning series...

Have you back tested this at all? Hard to do with last season obv. with a shortened season.. but would be interested to know how this system would have turned out in the 2010/2011 season..

That is correct, he is betting $290 to win $100. Anaheim lost, so he is -$290. His next bet on Anaheim will be on Saturday vs. Minnesota. Let's say the puck line for Saturday's game is -250. His "B" bet will be $250 + $290 (A bet loss) = $540 bet to win the original $100. Good luck with that...

matelionis · 10-03-13, 06:01 PM

BTW - This "system" does not take into account INJURIES. You have got to be kidding me!!! So if the top scorer for Anaheim is hurt and not playing, this "system" has you bet $540 to win $100 BLINDLY, just because it is a chase. DANGER, DANGER, DANGER!

hagball52 · 10-04-13, 09:04 AM

Just checking in. I see you've already picked up some haters.

jonny2k4 · 10-04-13, 10:18 AM

Don't get discouraged I want to follow this. Post the plays.

bisturis · 10-04-13, 12:28 PM

Thanks for posting the schedule. Good Luck guys.

play4win · 10-04-13, 02:47 PM

anyone got tracking history of this system?

J.M. Disciple · 10-04-13, 04:48 PM

check last years thread for record, i believe it was 65-1 or close to that. I have no idea of how many units that is, roughly 40 I would guess with a series loss being 20+ usually. I do not know previous years profits.

I will be following this year with a similar labby to what On3 ran just trying to make a small profit. Today I am taking ott even though it does not count as official play being "first three games of the season."

so far its 1-3 for v1 and v2 combined. Be very careful with your unit size as some juice is -290 like NYR yesterday. Can be a very expensive series with a martingale chase.

Good luck.

J.M. Disciple · 10-04-13, 05:42 PM

Cleonhr, are you going to be posting plays and keeping a record in the thread on a regular basis once the system is officially started or were you just starting the thread? I think you should look at how Hagball ran his MLB thread. A similar format would be good for this thread since both systems are JM and people can see future plays since usually a 2-3 day rest period for each team between games. I can help out if you need, but do not want to step on anyone's toes at the moment.

Thanks for putting the schedule together, that is the most help anyone can really provide in this thread. Any more than that is just being spoon fed pretty much.

J.M. Disciple · 10-04-13, 11:03 PM

Not sure if hes going to post. I am just running labby lines for my bets. Tomorrow we have 3 games if you are ignoring the early season rule. Besides the odds not being correct, I think its just a cover up to cover up a previous season loss.

10/5/2013
ANA (B) +1.5 VS MIN
TB (B) +1.5 VS CHI
PHO (A) +1.5 VS SJS

Some high juice tomorrow, lets get it done! A Bets are 2-2 so far, lets hope B goes 2-0 to start the season.

knugen · 10-04-13, 11:40 PM

JM. Can you explain how On3:s labby work. I know he doing a three line labbby

J.M. Disciple · 10-05-13, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by knugen

JM. Can you explain how On3:s labby work. I know he doing a three line labbby

split A loss over A and B, B loss over B and C, and C loss over line C. He tries to keep 4#s on the line or less. Just go through his thread and you will see. I am doing a very conservative method, all though I still have quite a few units at risk tomorrow, but conservative in terms of reaching peak profit, I will reset my lines. I do not think I will win nearly as much as some of you doing a labby or chase, but should still profit overall. Following four systems, two NHL and two NBA, so hopefully get a nice cushion early.

hockey216 · 10-05-13, 01:55 AM

its not a labby its a 3-bet martingale.

J.M. Disciple · 10-05-13, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by hockey216

its not a labby its a 3-bet martingale.

obviously. Doesn't mean I have to play it that way. Doing something I believe to show a more consistent profit rather than a huge losing season at times. If you feel like chasing -250+ juice for 3 games be my guest.

A) 2.5 to win 1
B) 8.75 to win 3.5
C) 30.62 to win 12.25

Good luck that that betting strategy sir.

stickbit · 10-05-13, 08:18 AM

JM when you split a loss are you adding a new number to the end of two lines (e.g. 'a' loss add number to end of a line and b line) or playing aggressively and folding loss into last #?

J.M. Disciple · 10-05-13, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by stickbit

JM when you split a loss are you adding a new number to the end of two lines (e.g. 'a' loss add number to end of a line and b line) or playing aggressively and folding loss into last #?

3 lines like on3 did in baseball, but I will add 1 # to line A when A bet loses and split the other half of the loss over the #s on row B. If B loses, I will add one # to line B and split the loss over the two lines.

Example:
A) 10-10-10-10
B) 10-10-10-10
C) 10-10-10-10

Say ANA lost and it was $30 to win $20. New lines would be
A) 11-11-11-11-11
B) 13.75-13-75-13.75-13.75
C) 10-10-10-10

J.M. Disciple · 10-05-13, 10:00 PM

cash TB and ANA both B bets tonight. Bringing record to
A) 2-2
B) 2-0
C) 0-0

PHO pending. Unoffical so far for first 3 games of the season.

J.M. Disciple · 10-06-13, 11:03 AM

No bets today. Will have NJ (a) and nyr (b) tomorrow.

jonny2k4 · 10-06-13, 04:28 PM

If rangers are a b bet tomorrow system should be 2-3 in a bets?

J.M. Disciple · 10-06-13, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by jonny2k4

If rangers are a b bet tomorrow system should be 2-3 in a bets?

Posted it like 2 post above yours.

02.10.Anaheim (B)
03.10 Florida (A)
03.10. NY Rangers (A) LOSE, B- 10/7,
03.10. Tampa (B)
4.10. Ottawa (A)
05.10. Phoenix (A) LOSE, B-10/8

07.10.NJ Devils
08.10.Colorado
09.10.Montreal

Some of these are v1 or v2. I am playing both as same system with my labby lines. Look at 1st couple post to get whole schedule.

J.M. Disciple · 10-07-13, 06:22 PM

I missed first A) bet on ana, should be
A) 2-4
B) 2-0

With nyr& pho as pending B bets.

J.M. Disciple · 10-07-13, 08:26 PM

I think placing bets at night for NHL is better. I beat the juice by over -50 today.

J.M. Disciple · 10-07-13, 11:26 PM

Wow edm scores four goals in the 3rd to tie it and then win the game in ot. Hope you all were not afraid of juice and cashed in on the PL.