DG's 2013 Thread

[darktray]

Ive been dodging bullets all over the place lately

[boeing power]

Stamkos of all people misses the empty net from 15 feet.

[DennisGreen]

Stamkos of all people misses the empty net from 15 feet.

Yup he's the one guy in the entire league you wouldn't expect to miss there

[swordsandtequila]

Good luck DG, gotta make up for some soccer losses today. Starting with:

Carolina Hurricanes/Washington Capitals Over 5½ -105

Break the bank.

Adding:

Pittsburgh Penguins Over 2½ -155
Boston Bruins/Pittsburgh Penguins Over 5½ -110
Tampa Bay Lightning/Florida Panthers Over 5½ -130

TB team total now O3 -105 @ 5Dimes. That's it for me tonight, gonna sit back and watch the games. Good luck to everyone.

F*k me, best shooter in the league hits the side of the net from 5 feet. Serves me right, team totals and regulation bets been treating me right and I get lazy and make a bunch of totals bets. Of course not one game has gone over tonight. Live and learn.

[BankHead]

LOL AT STAMKOS HITTING THE SIDE OF THE NET HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA WHAT THE penetrate WAS THAT

[BankHead]

lol at this site changing fukc to penetrate

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LOL AT STAMKOS HITTING THE SIDE OF THE NET HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA WHAT THE penetrate WAS THAT

That made me break even for the day

[DennisGreen]

Thank god that under hit.

3-1 +$140 on the day.

A Stamkos empty netter away from a 4-0 +$600 day though

[Huckleberry Pig]

Thank god that under hit.

3-1 +$140 on the day.

A Stamkos empty netter away from a 4-0 +$600 day though

was already up on the day but woulda picked up an extra unit had he made that. how the hell does he miss that? he musta had the Under on the game

[DennisGreen]

was already up on the day but woulda picked up an extra unit had he made that. how the hell does he miss that? he musta had the Under on the game

I haven't even seen it yet I was working. Thank god I didn't see it live I probably would have smashed my TV or laptop

It sounds like it was pretty bad though.

[DennisGreen]

3-1 +$140 on the day.

2013 Overall Record
108-108-5 +$1449.50

LIVE BETS: 29-16 +$2437.50
TOTALS: 24-22-4 +$775
1ST PERIOD: 31-36 +$391
GRAND SALAMI: 2-1 +$300
MONEYLINES: 8-10 -$38
REGULATION: 0-2 -$150
2 TEAMERS: 3-8 -$472
TEAM TOTALS: 11-13-1 -$1794


$50
3-5 +$42.50


52-65-2 -$873


40-29-3 +$1156


8-8 -$876


5-1 +$2000

[keyboarding]

What are you talking about? He was moving forward (toward the net) the whole time, even during the spin. Theres no rule against what he did.

You are not allowed to stop skating or skate in the opposite direction during a shootout. The OTT player stopped and the VAN player tonight actually skated backwards. Both should have been blown dead.

[matt1216]

You are not allowed to stop skating or skate in the opposite direction during a shootout. The OTT player stopped and the VAN player tonight actually skated backwards. Both should have been blown dead.

Lol, the refs know the rules, the "spinarama" has been going on for awhile now, it's all legal.

[keyboarding]

Lol, the refs know the rules, the "spinarama" has been going on for awhile now, it's all legal.

The referees don't know shit. They know it's entertaining so they allow it but it's completely illegal.

What I can't figure out is why every single shooter isn't doing the same stupid move:

1. Skate into the goalie
2. Hit the brakes, try to administer a snow shower to the goalie
3. Turn your body and make sure to force the goalie physically in the other direction with your ass
4. Begin spinning your skates in the opposite direction so you can gain additional time and space
5. Backhand the puck into the empty net



You seriously think Mason Raymond maintained a forward direction?

[El Nino]

The referees don't know shit. They know it's entertaining so they allow it but it's completely illegal.

What I can't figure out is why every single shooter isn't doing the same stupid move:

1. Skate into the goalie
2. Hit the brakes, try to administer a snow shower to the goalie
3. Turn your body and make sure to force the goalie physically in the other direction with your ass
4. Begin spinning your skates in the opposite direction so you can gain additional time and space
5. Backhand the puck into the empty net



You seriously think Mason Raymond maintained a forward direction?

It's not illegal. Here's the exact wording from NHL. com Rule 24.2 in the NHL Rulebook. Now whether it should be illegal is another question. I agree that a player should have forward momentum at all times. It's entertainment though. There is a reason playoff games don't go to the skills competition to determine the winner.

Rule 24 - Penalty Shot 24.1 Penalty Shot – A penalty shot is designed to restore a scoring opportunity which was lost as a result of a foul being committed by the offending team, based on the parameters set out in these rules.

24.2 Procedure - The Referee shall ask to have announced over the public address system the name of the player designated by him or selected by the team entitled to take the shot (as appropriate). He shall then place the puck on the center face-off spot and the player taking the shot will, on the instruction of the Referee (by blowing his whistle), play the puck from there and shall attempt to score on the goalkeeper. The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck off the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal), and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete.

The lacrosse-like move whereby the puck is picked up on the blade of the stick and “whipped” into the net shall be permitted provided the puck is not raised above the height of the shoulders at any time and when released, is not carried higher than the crossbar. See also 80.1.
The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion.

[swordsandtequila]

You are not allowed to stop skating or skate in the opposite direction during a shootout. The OTT player stopped and the VAN player tonight actually skated backwards. Both should have been blown dead.

You're confusing skating backwards and moving backwards; as long as the skater is moving forward, it doesn't matter if he is skating backwards, sideways, or upside down. In a game last week Patrick Kane came at the goalie at a snails pace; he scored. All legal as he never came to a stop. They should just do away with shootouts, play 4 on 4 until somebody scores.

[hockey216]

Thank god that under hit.

3-1 +$140 on the day.

A Stamkos empty netter away from a 4-0 +$600 day though

Congrats on hitting your under DG. You 2-1 on last 3 unders since losing the salami by 1.5 goals (8 goal Chicago game)? nice work. Would have had columbus under too for 3-0 if howard didnt take a dump in the shootout. guy was bad. Got deked way too easily. anyway Keep looking for good angles you like and adding value to the portfolio. =]

Been decent run last few days. Keep it up. Love the hockey analysis in this thread.

I'm so depressed about the bruins playing 54 mins of hard 2-0 hockey against top team in conference on the road, then collapsing last 6min giving up 3 goals. Didn't even get 1 point for OT. Unbelievable. Just downright unbelievable. Totally inexcusable. wasnt even on power play. collapsed 5 on 5. That was all they needed for 1st in East standings. bruins have uncharacteristically collapsed leads lately (buffalo, Montreal, Washington). Usually they are Team that dominates when has lead. fall back play defensive game give up nothing. Now still behind Montreal. I HATE Montreal. As bad as i hate the yankees. French fcuks.

[DennisGreen]

Congrats on hitting your under DG. You 2-1 on last 3 unders since losing the salami by 1.5 goals (8 goal Chicago game)? nice work. Would have had columbus under too for 3-0 if howard didnt take a dump in the shootout. guy was bad. Got deked way too easily. anyway Keep looking for good angles you like and adding value to the portfolio. =]

Been decent run last few days. Keep it up. Love the hockey analysis in this thread.

I'm so depressed about the bruins playing 54 mins of hard 2-0 hockey against top team in conference on the road, then collapsing last 6min giving up 3 goals. Didn't even get 1 point for OT. Unbelievable. Just downright unbelievable. Totally inexcusable. wasnt even on power play. collapsed 5 on 5. That was all they needed for 1st in East standings. bruins have uncharacteristically collapsed leads lately (buffalo, Montreal, Washington). Usually they are Team that dominates when has lead. fall back play defensive game give up nothing. Now still behind Montreal. I HATE Montreal. As bad as i hate the yankees. French fcuks.

Thanks and yeah that Boston loss was devastating. When the Canucks choke like that I get rattled and am in a bitter mood for the rest of the night usually. Yeah unders have been decent for me the last week or so for the most part.

The BOS/MTL rivalry is still alive and well I see

[DennisGreen]

It's not illegal. Here's the exact wording from NHL. com Rule 24.2 in the NHL Rulebook. Now whether it should be illegal is another question. I agree that a player should have forward momentum at all times. It's entertainment though. There is a reason playoff games don't go to the skills competition to determine the winner.

Rule 24 - Penalty Shot 24.1 Penalty Shot – A penalty shot is designed to restore a scoring opportunity which was lost as a result of a foul being committed by the offending team, based on the parameters set out in these rules.

24.2 Procedure - The Referee shall ask to have announced over the public address system the name of the player designated by him or selected by the team entitled to take the shot (as appropriate). He shall then place the puck on the center face-off spot and the player taking the shot will, on the instruction of the Referee (by blowing his whistle), play the puck from there and shall attempt to score on the goalkeeper. The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck off the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal), and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete.

The lacrosse-like move whereby the puck is picked up on the blade of the stick and “whipped” into the net shall be permitted provided the puck is not raised above the height of the shoulders at any time and when released, is not carried higher than the crossbar. See also 80.1.
The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion.

Not a fan of the spin-o-rama shootout attempts but as you showed there they are legal. Technically I guess he is still making continuous motion. Whenever Raymond scores one like that though it feels wrong to me as the goalie pretty well has no chance

[DennisGreen]

You're confusing skating backwards and moving backwards; as long as the skater is moving forward, it doesn't matter if he is skating backwards, sideways, or upside down. In a game last week Patrick Kane came at the goalie at a snails pace; he scored. All legal as he never came to a stop. They should just do away with shootouts, play 4 on 4 until somebody scores.

[hockey216]

Thanks and yeah that Boston loss was devastating. When the Canucks choke like that I get rattled and am in a bitter mood for the rest of the night usually. Yeah unders have been decent for me the last week or so for the most part.

The BOS/MTL rivalry is still alive and well I see

I can take a hard fought game that comes up short. I cannot take epic collapses. Loss last night (not even getting 1point for ot) was unbelievable. Loss to Washington after 3-0 lead was unbelievable too. Somebody better do something. Hopefully they poked, woke up, and rattled the bear. And hopefully the bear will be one mean mother roaring the rest of the year. That's a saying they have in Boston. "Don't poke the bear." Canucks poked the bear by hitting Horton in finals with 2-0 series lead. Bear got angry and came back roaring. Hopefully bruins can step it up rest of the year. Been inconsistent lately. Unbelievable collapses to washington, Pittsburgh, Montreal, buffalo.

[zandyman]

The referees don't know shit. They know it's entertaining so they allow it but it's completely illegal.

What I can't figure out is why every single shooter isn't doing the same stupid move:

1. Skate into the goalie
2. Hit the brakes, try to administer a snow shower to the goalie
3. Turn your body and make sure to force the goalie physically in the other direction with your ass
4. Begin spinning your skates in the opposite direction so you can gain additional time and space
5. Backhand the puck into the empty net



You seriously think Mason Raymond maintained a forward direction?

I think they should disallow any goal in SO where player is in the crease.

[keyboarding]

The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck off the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal), and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete.

The puck must have continuous motion. The rule is way too ambiguous but from what I can understand you can do a spin-o-rama as long as the puck is in continuous motion. It says the puck must remain moving, toward the goal, but the player doesn't have to. The problem is during practically every spin-o-rama move in the shootout the player stops the puck before moving it back.

Look at the :16 second mark. He clearly stops the puck (almost seems to lose control). There's absolutely no way you can say that's continous motion. Raymond stops the puck from moving, thus blowing the play dead. He actually does it twice, before he backhands it in. The commentator even sees it. Everyone with a brain saw it.

Here's Raymond at it again. At the :18 second mark you'll see he stops the puck (should be blown dead).

Blake is the only guy I've seen to actually do it properly from the videos I saw:

You can see that it's much harder to do it all in one fluid movement than stopping it before switching to the backhand. The puck should never leave the stick, otherwise the continuous motion and/or movement toward the goal line is interrupted. Either way, most spin-o-ramas in shootouts are a fukking joke.

[matt1216]

The referees don't know shit. They know it's entertaining so they allow it but it's completely illegal.

What I can't figure out is why every single shooter isn't doing the same stupid move:

1. Skate into the goalie
2. Hit the brakes, try to administer a snow shower to the goalie
3. Turn your body and make sure to force the goalie physically in the other direction with your ass
4. Begin spinning your skates in the opposite direction so you can gain additional time and space
5. Backhand the puck into the empty net



You seriously think Mason Raymond maintained a forward direction?

They know the rule book, I understand its frustrating sometimes but the league is obviously ok with it, so there really is no infractions. The crease thing is just dumb. If the goalie can't poke check u when yur that close u obviously did your job. Yes going backwards should be illegal. I'm ok with the puck stop as long as the shooter pretty much stops skating

[El Nino]

The puck must have continuous motion. The rule is way too ambiguous but from what I can understand you can do a spin-o-rama as long as the puck is in continuous motion. It says the puck must remain moving, toward the goal, but the player doesn't have to. The problem is during practically every spin-o-rama move in the shootout the player stops the puck before moving it back.

Look at the :16 second mark. He clearly stops the puck (almost seems to lose control). There's absolutely no way you can say that's continous motion. Raymond stops the puck from moving, thus blowing the play dead. He actually does it twice, before he backhands it in. The commentator even sees it. Everyone with a brain saw it.

Here's Raymond at it again. At the :18 second mark you'll see he stops the puck (should be blown dead).

Blake is the only guy I've seen to actually do it properly from the videos I saw:

You can see that it's much harder to do it all in one fluid movement than stopping it before switching to the backhand. The puck should never leave the stick, otherwise the continuous motion and/or movement toward the goal line is interrupted. Either way, most spin-o-ramas in shootouts are a fukking joke.

Agree, that definitely was choppy motion and it looked as if he did lose control and poked it up to himself. It will be interesting to see when they start to actually blow these dead. Seems as though any Spin-o-rama is being let go.

Here's another example of the proper spin-o-rama. Pierre Marc-Bouchard

[DennisGreen]

OTT/MTL Under 5 (-106)

[keyboarding]

OTT/MTL Under 5 (-106)

It's funny how every NHL topic ends up in your thread, eh?

Anyway, I've been tinkering with a team total hypothesis lately. Pretty interesting results so far. I felt it appropriate to post my first pick in your thread:

DET Over 2.5 (-116)

God bless.

[DennisGreen]

It's funny how every NHL topic ends up in your thread, eh?

Anyway, I've been tinkering with a team total hypothesis lately. Pretty interesting results so far. I felt it appropriate to post my first pick in your thread:

DET Over 2.5 (-116)

God bless.

Its all good if anything it's a compliment

Nice man we will see if the SBR posting curse will live on for you

[atofsu32111]

Thought about Mon big, they just scored even with chalk man this team always scares me with goals,.... i got under to, 1-0

[DennisGreen]

PHI/NJ Over 1.5 (1st) (+104)

[atofsu32111]

dammit 1-1

[DennisGreen]

1-0 after 1 is locked up in NJ

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Took the flyers moneyline what was I thinking

[Winnipeg Jets]

Thoughts for Turdsday:

Boston: Give me a 3 tt and I'm on it. Think they cover the puckline too.

Canes/Caps: Quick turn around sounds good for an over. They played 2 so far...3-0 and 4-0 results.

[Winnipeg Jets]

Powerplay Flyboysssssssssss

Done deal!!!