Suggestions for the second SBR tourney:

[Spooky]

The posters comments in this thread are ridiculous. This is mainly a handicapping contest about bragging rights, I as well as Kellen and a couple others tried to contribute a few bucks hoping that others would follow suit and make this a nice pot. Clearly that didn't happen and the shit pot you see before you is b/c the posters here are too tight to pitch in 20 bucks or more each to create a prize pool (would have been a close to 2k prize pool had all contributed and with DSI's 300), instead they'd rather bitch that some book didn't donate enough of their money. Everyone thinks books are lining up to host 2k prize pool free contests for some reason, hell if anything that would take away from their business by giving ppl a chance to win their money with no risk. I would also like to add that players should not be able to bet on the same team, I have seen instances of a player betting ML and his opponent (with a big lead) places his bet on the team + points, clearly limiting the amount of ground that the player can make up if ML hits. Let's make this tourney as fair as possible for deciding who are the best cappers at SBR.

I agree with bet and diogee pretty much.
This contest is for fun. Absolutely lets all put in 10 bucks or 20 bucks each. But talking about complicating matters.

Can you imagine everyone trying to pay. It aint gonna happen and I am using aint for emphasis.

Lets not get into parlays and this and that.
Simple, straight wagers. Most units won in a specific time period. I cant argue although it would not be a bad idea to allow you to pick any favorite you want regardless of the odds, although I am mostly a dog player it dont matter to me.

Its a contest. For fun and for any great prizes anyone wants
to donate. For that Thank You.

Mo, knows if he needs anything else, to shout to me.
Its done.

Have the contest a few times, The winners of each have a circle of champions contest to see the best capper around.

Just have fun.

GL

[zerocage]

Let you pick the units and do this during footbal

[zerocage]

And have like a play in tournament for those that don't post a lot of picks or don't have the time for write ups all the time....

[mofome]

I agree with bet and diogee pretty much.
This contest is for fun. Absolutely lets all put in 10 bucks or 20 bucks each. But talking about complicating matters.

Can you imagine everyone trying to pay. It aint gonna happen and I am using aint for emphasis.

Lets not get into parlays and this and that.
Simple, straight wagers. Most units won in a specific time period. I cant argue although it would not be a bad idea to allow you to pick any favorite you want regardless of the odds, although I am mostly a dog player it dont matter to me.

Its a contest. For fun and for any great prizes anyone wants
to donate. For that Thank You.

Mo, knows if he needs anything else, to shout to me.
Its done.

Have the contest a few times, The winners of each have a circle of champions contest to see the best capper around.

Just have fun.

GL

we'll do what we can to make this as fun as possible, all thats needed from you gents is to enjoy, appreciate those that help with grading/prizes, and help with suggestions. we're a group here all just trying to enjoy some free time, nothing more complicated than that.

spook, you've been a good friend for many moons.

[fiveteamer]

Please add Slovakian basketball and Korean baseball please. Im a Slovakian basketball and South Korean baseball specialist

[Iwinyourmoney]

1 per round per person. You are allowed to have 1 *lock pick* that is worth an extra .5. EX

Mets ML is +150
You make this your lock
It is now worth
+225

If you lose it is counted as -2.25 units, and a win is +2.25

[Sportsgirl]

I like to suggest a loser's bracket

[Spooky]

we'll do what we can to make this as fun as possible, all thats needed from you gents is to enjoy, appreciate those that help with grading/prizes, and help with suggestions. we're a group here all just trying to enjoy some free time, nothing more complicated than that.

spook, you've been a good friend for many moons.

As my girl liked to hear in Ghost.

Ditto

[picantel]

My suggestions:

Have an initial week for everyone to sign up in a thread to play. If there are more than 64 then let the new people in first then let people in that did the best in the last tourney. Make seeds that are real i.e. how they did in the last tourney. The new people would have high seeds but a chance to knock off the past winners early. The people who were shut out i.e. first round losses in the first tourney would get first crack in the 3rd tourney against the top people from the second.

[fearless]

I wasn't paying attention when the rules were made but I can't understand why favorites were limited to a max of -140.

I don't see why favorites should be limited. If someone wants to bet 1 unit on a -500 favorite (1 unit to win .2 units), why not? It's their play, they should have control over it without arbitrary restrictions. I think the base for all plays should be set at 1 unit and you should be able to bet anything on the board. This way, a -140 favorite would pay off .71 units (1 unit @ -140 wins .71 units). This way, there's an equal level playing field where everyone is betting exactly 1 unit on every play.

Limiting the underdog plays has been discussed and I don't think it makes sense. No one can really say when an underdog has no shot and the odds certainly don't tell you always. Look at the dog I took on my last play, the Fever. They were +315 but they dominated the game and won by about 30. It's not fair to say, "You can't take that dog because the number is too big", it would have unnecessarily and arbitrarily changed the result of my competition and I wouldn't be advancing to the next round.

On the other hand, limiting picking favorites to -140 creates an unnatural, unrealistic situation, imho. I think everyone should be able to bet the board just like they would with real money.

If anyone's concerned about calculations, you can use this parlay calculator to quickly and easily calculate any payout for any moneyline:

http://www.parlaycalculator.com/

If someone takes a -325 favorite, you can see their payout would be .31 units (all picks would be based on 1 unit, no matter what odds were involved).

I don't see any reason why dogs or favorites should be limited on either side. If everyone is staking one unit on every play, everybody's on an equal playing field the whole time and arbitrary limitations will not get in the way. That's one way to make the contest as realistic as possible and making it realistic is the only way to decide who the most skilled person really is, imho.

[diogee]

I didn't read through the whole thing but it is honestly a big enough pain in the ass to grade and would be that much tougher if every play was 1 unit risked. If that were the case I am sure that would pretty much eliminate anyone taking favorites over -120ish.

[fearless]

I didn't read through the whole thing but it is honestly a big enough pain in the ass to grade and would be that much tougher if every play was 1 unit risked. If that were the case I am sure that would pretty much eliminate anyone taking favorites over -120ish.

Grading it is no problem. Check this out:

http://www.parlaycalculator.com/

It's a parlay calculator but it works for any one game. Put in any odds as the first of the parlay and you get the payout. The calculator is extremely fast, I can calculate any payout in a second:

-170 = 0.59
-220 = 0.45
-330 = .30
-450 = .22

Heck, I can use that thing to make up table for you so don't have to use the calculator if you want. That's how strongly I feel about this.

[mofome]

Grading it is no problem. Check this out:

http://www.parlaycalculator.com/

It's a parlay calculator but it works for any one game. Put in any odds as the first of the parlay and you get the payout. The calculator is extremely fast, I can calculate any payout in a second:

-170 = 0.59
-220 = 0.45
-330 = .30
-450 = .22

Heck, I can use that thing to make up table for you so don't have to use the calculator if you want. That's how strongly I feel about this.

Then we round up and round down and someone loses by .01 only to find out that if we didnt round the numbers they actually would have won. so then we grade things out as +.59837261940. You would think no one would complain, but you'd be surprised.

[fearless]

The three picks a day maximum has to be done away with. I'm trying to only pick American basketball games because that's all I really know. I have to really press because there's just not many games right now. For example, on Monday there will be no basketball games so I won't be able to make any picks on that day. On the contrary, on Tuesday there's five games but I'll be limited to three picks. I don't think this is fair and I don't see why the number of picks should be limited at all.

After all, this rule will have to be done away with eventually because it simply won't work during football season.

I say, why wait until football season? Let's lift the limit on the number of picks now.

[fearless]

Then we round up and round down and someone loses by .01 only to find out that if we didnt round the numbers they actually would have won. so then we grade things out as +.59837261940. You would think no one would complain, but you'd be surprised.

I think you just need to make rule (concerning rounding) and if people don't like it then they don't need to take part in the competition. As long as you're consistent in administering the rules, everything will be fine.