Originally posted by iceminers26
Comprehension is a motherfukka
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Comprehension is a motherfukkaComment -
I have been logging in and using the lines from 5dimes website, and anyways there are even discrepencies between what he posted and what is up there now
and where did he goComment -
Ice has work bro he can't post til he gets home.....Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
he just posted he said he cant post until after work, so work should be overComment -
Originally posted by thebayareabeast
Babysit thru a 2 page thread...took me 2 minutes to find it....first page...post 5ish. Really tough...I'm not trying to start shit, but it's pretty obvious he just took them straight off of SBRodds/5Dimes section, like he stated he was doing. It's obvious you're a joker bayarea and this is the only personal attack I will throw your way, since you went off on a tangent complaining, when he specified where he was getting his odds from the get go. You just know you'll be taken out in any type of competition, and trying to back out after day 1.Comment -
Im ahead you fukkin moronOriginally posted by ngates815
Go crawl back into your hole
Theres even some discrepencies between what he posted and whats up there now so you still gonna blindly lick his dick?Comment -
He said last night that he was logging into the site and getting the lines off the website...
so basically he is giving himself a choice of the better of the two at his discretionComment -
every one of the lines ice posted matches up EXACTLY with what sbr odds has for 5 dimes at the time of the play....stop trying to go out of you rway to discredit solid, respected, posters......Comment -
Ok I'll tell you what... we will just have to have a little talk about this later. In the meantime these allegations of me trying to back out are ludicrous and nothing more.
Very well.
We can continue the contest and he can have his odds but we need to set some things straight here.Comment -
How can you see what it was "at the time of the post"Originally posted by 2daBank
A few are different now
Also last night he said he was using the site...
Every bet I have posted I have actually logged into 5dimes and posted those lines so who knows how much I have solomoned myself out of by not using "SBR ODDS"Comment -
Originally posted by thebayareabeast
I know you're ahead.
haha
The orioles is the only one...and it's changed NOT in his favor. Those SBRodds do change, just to let you know, it may not be every 10 seconds, but they do change, the Orioles is now at 152.
You don't have to be scared, your up after day 1. Why back out, he wasn't trying to cheat, you're just trying to back out.
And I won't blindly lick anyones dick.Comment -
Ok fine he wants to play this way fine... from now on I will log into the site and also check sbr odds and give myself the more beneficial of the 2 like he is doing
If I didnt think Ice was a respected poster I would not have agreed to this contest...Comment -
its easy to see the time, just go to the line you want from 5dimes and click on the box with the line in it..you will get a log of every time the line changed for totals, ml, and rl .....he played it absolutely fair as every line he played was exactly that at the time of his post.......Comment -
We clearly have a couple issues in this contest we need to address...
for example what is stopping someone from just posting the same exact plays as the other person when they pull ahead?
There have been no rules stated that prohibit that...
I dont think he would do it and obviously I wouldnt but its just an example of how this contest is very flawedComment -
Last night when he posted his Cubs and over bets he clearly stated he was utilizing the 5dimes website itself...
we need to clear this upComment -
Originally posted by thebayareabeast
No issues at all it would seem to me...Say you're up, and he posts his picks first you could copy him...Say you're up and you post first, and he copies you, wouldn't benefit him at all. So theres not really a need for you two to copy each other, just wait til game time to post your plays. I doubt both of you will be on at that same exact time.
And you're stating he's been getting the best of the odds listed from sbrodds and from 5 dimes, when he clearly stated last night, that he used 5dimes because SBRodds was messed up. He also noted that, so it shouldn't be a big problem.
You seem to keep making excuses. He said you should both be using SBRodds, then 5dimes part of that, so you can verify line history. SO if anything he could quit, and it could be justified because you aren't following the rules.Comment -
Originally posted by thebayareabeast
he probably was right then as im pretty sure he bet that game so odds are he was just in the site,but in all honesty the line should be the same from the odds page and the shop (unless SBR odds is having malfunctions), and when you picking so many games for a tourney,competition, or whatever, it a lot easier to have sbr odds right there.........if yo got issues with this thing that fine that between you and him but i been talking to ice for a year and i can say he one of the best guys on this site and there was no need to start trashing him over a misunderstanding.....gl to you both..Comment -
Originally posted by iceminers26
Did you read the whole thing. He explained himself as to why he used that. It would seem like the honorable thing to do. I doubt he was trying to "cheat"Comment -
what's going on here, guess I will start with this post. All my plays to this point, with the exception of two (Cubs game), have been taken exactly off of SBR Odds using 5dimes as the book. The only reason these 2 plays in the Cubs game were taken directly from 5dimes was because SBR Odds was all messed up for this game and did not even have lines up for it.Originally posted by thebayareabeastComment -
You never said that the SBR Odds were messed up...Comment -
And I clearly stated this when I posted the plays.
You send me a PM asking me if I am trying to cheat, are you serious. If you read my post instead of throwing around accusations, you might figure it out on your own.Comment -
Originally posted by thebayareabeast
are you matching my plays, what a joke
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Beast, I can understand your concern as the contest is for $500 and there are a lot of dodgy posters on SBR but Icer is definitely not one of them.
The odds he posted are direct from SBR and are the correct 5Dimes odds listed at the time of his posting. The one time he veered from that (the Cubs game) he explained to you why and his explanation is more than valid. As for your concern that he will just copy your plays, well you both would increase your units if the plays won so you would always remain ahead. There is no incentive for him to do so.
Best of luck in this competition if you choose to continue with it but honestly, calling Icer out for any perceived dishonesty is just setting yourself up for a lot of grief.Comment -
Look at Ngates post directly above the one of yours I just quoted. Icer did indeed explain why he was taking lines directly from 5Dimes. You just need to read a little more closely.Originally posted by thebayareabeast
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oh really Beast, what's the above postOriginally posted by iceminers26Comment -
No, I posted my plays firstOriginally posted by iceminers26are you matching my plays, what a joke
matching your plays??? what are you talking about???Comment -
just check the line history on SBR Odds, reason we are using it so we can verify these things, and match them with my post time and the lines at that time, then tell me I am off.Originally posted by thebayareabeastComment -
I was posting your plays with the odds as the actual 5dimes website was giving me...Originally posted by iceminers26
Ok Ice lets clear this up right now... we are both permanently using the SBR ODDS?Comment -
You say that I am cheating and throw around all these acquistions, when in reality I am following the rules to a T by taking my plays with the lines from SBR Odds using 5dimes.Comment -
It's clear bayarea, doesn't know how to "babysit" or read thru a thread...Every allegation he has towards ICER is ridiculous.
He states that Icer never mentioned SBRodds was messed up, yet 2 posts above that I posted Icers post CLEARLY stating that SBRodds was messed up, and that if Beast was on, he wanted to make sure it was ok. In Which case I'm sure if Beast said NO, Icer would of been ok with that and moved on since it was the first day.
He's trying to make every excuse in the book to try and dis-credit ICER, but it's obvious that he's trying to back out. Possibly because he doesn't have 500 bucks to his name.
ICER my question for you, did you both happen to paypal or whatever 500 each to someone trusworthy from this site? if not I'm guaranteeing someone gets stiffed here.Comment -
Ok I missed the part about Ice using the book last night because the "SBR ODDS" were malfunctioning... thats what led to this
Your post is fine, we can use those lines and from now on I will use nothing but SBR ODDS as well
no more logging into the site for me
Who knows how much my record is off from yesterday but oh well i will just eat itComment -
sorry I had an 8 hour work day and wanted to eat and take a shower before the games start after placing my plays, that's why I wasn't around. You are fuckin pissing me off and it takes a lot to do.Comment -
Ok I can admit when its possible I made a mistake.Originally posted by iceminers26
Ice is a respected poster, Im still new here, Im been stiffed before also and Im only human.
I missed the part about Ice using the book lines because the SBR ODDS were off, my mistake.
I apologize to ICE.Comment -
using only 5dimes as the bookOriginally posted by thebayareabeastComment -
I can understand that, I am willing to admit it appears as though I made a mistake.Originally posted by iceminers26
My bad, I shouldn't have accused you without reading that post, (still don't know how I missed it
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In any case my bad manComment
