Round 3 ~ Shoebox vs Wangchiu

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  • Dexter
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-24-08
    • 25829

    #1
    Round 3 ~ Shoebox vs Wangchiu
    OK Guys - continue to send back your confirmations to me. Here are the rules myself and suicideking have come up with. Lets all do well, as i've tried to construct this towards the weighted gambling approach that i love to use. With the rules in place, these plays should mirror what you are actually wagering each day. Win or lose, this contest should teach you all about the beauty of weighted gambling with sound money management (no chasing)
    • Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 4.5 units for that day which can be broken up however you choose. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.<o></o>>
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.<o></o>
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.<o></o>
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.<o></o>
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)<o></o>
    • no posts can be edited<o></o>
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.<o></o>
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.<o></o>

    *once you are down to 0 units, you have lost the match.<o></o><o></o>
    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

    4x mets -200
    2x giants -150
    3x cards +180
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->*note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.
    <o></o>
    Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    Rd 2: June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker
  • wangichu
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-07-08
    • 946

    #2
    think i may be a in a little over my head in this round, but here goes nothing...

    good luck shoe, let's get money.
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    • wangichu
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-07-08
      • 946

      #3
      Saturday
      CIN ML +130 (2 units)
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      • wangichu
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-07-08
        • 946

        #4
        Originally posted by wangichu
        Saturday
        CIN ML +130 (2 units)
        60-2 = 58 units

        -2 units net "profit"

        0-1
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        • wangichu
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-07-08
          • 946

          #5
          Sunday 7/12

          SD ML +130 (2 units)
          CHW ML +110 (2 units)

          FLA ML -110 (1 unit)
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          • wangichu
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-07-08
            • 946

            #6
            adding

            CHC/STL under 8.5 -115 (1 unit)
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            • shoebox
              Restricted User
              • 11-26-08
              • 5710

              #7
              Nice to see wang and I go at it, should be a good round!\

              Ill start posting my plays after ASG....what do you mean over your head? CK sais your good, thats some credentials right there!
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              • wangichu
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-07-08
                • 946

                #8
                Originally posted by wangichu
                Sunday 7/12

                SD ML +130 (2 units)
                CHW ML +110 (2 units)

                FLA ML -110 (1 unit)
                Originally posted by wangichu
                adding

                CHC/STL under 8.5 -115 (1 unit)
                58 units + 2.6 units = 60.6 units

                +.6 units net profit

                3-2
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                • wangichu
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-07-08
                  • 946

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wangichu
                  Sunday 7/12

                  SD ML +130 (2 units)
                  CHW ML +110 (2 units)

                  FLA ML -110 (1 unit)
                  Originally posted by wangichu
                  adding

                  CHC/STL under 8.5 -115 (1 unit)
                  Originally posted by shoebox
                  Nice to see wang and I go at it, should be a good round!\

                  Ill start posting my plays after ASG....what do you mean over your head? CK sais your good, thats some credentials right there!
                  i have a little more experience with basketball. This is only my second season attempting to cap baseball and the first season i've stuck with it from the get go. I took a couple months break last year. So my money management in baseball is still a work in progress, and i've seen how hot you've been, so i've really gotta up my aggressiveness on certain plays and step my game up. Suicide disappeared so once i was up enough i could just coast.

                  anyways... good luck man, it'll be fun either way.
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                  • wangichu
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-07-08
                    • 946

                    #10
                    didn't mean to quote those too play boxes... my bad
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                    • shoebox
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-26-08
                      • 5710

                      #11
                      7/16/09

                      Phi/FLO over 9 -109 2 units
                      Indians RL +102 2 units
                      Dodglers -122 2 units
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                      • wangichu
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-07-08
                        • 946

                        #12
                        thursday 7/16

                        LAA ML +117 (2 units)
                        SD ML +117 (2 units)
                        FLA ML -122 (2 units)
                        LAD ML -122 (1 unit)
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                        • wangichu
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-07-08
                          • 946

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wangichu
                          thursday 7/16

                          LAA ML +117 (2 units)
                          SD ML +117 (2 units)
                          FLA ML -122 (2 units)
                          LAD ML -122 (1 unit)
                          60.6 - 3.32 = 57.28 units

                          -2.72 net units

                          4-5
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                          • shoebox
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-26-08
                            • 5710

                            #14
                            bank 57.42
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                            • shoebox
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-26-08
                              • 5710

                              #15
                              7/27/09

                              rays +105 2 units
                              twins +112 2 units
                              brewers +106 2 units
                              white sox rl +124 2 units
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                              • wangichu
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-07-08
                                • 946

                                #16
                                Friday 7/27/09

                                FLA ML +112 (3 units)
                                MIN ML +112 (2units)
                                CHW -1.5 +124 (2units)
                                OAK ML +109 (1 unit)

                                crazy... i almost threw that last unit on the rays because of the plus money, but i felt compelled to at least have half of my units be exclusive. Hopefully we're both just on the money train today.
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                                • shoebox
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-26-08
                                  • 5710

                                  #17
                                  bank 62.24
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                                  • shoebox
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-26-08
                                    • 5710

                                    #18
                                    7/18/09



                                    yankees -154 2 units
                                    buccos -109 2 units
                                    buccos RL +187 2 units
                                    Orioles +127 2 units
                                    nats +106 1 units
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                                    • Dexter
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-24-08
                                      • 25829

                                      #19
                                      guys - what have you thought of the 15% rule.....next year, do you think that should be upped/lowered or stay as is? give me the % you would like based on a 60 unit roll for the month.
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                                      • wangichu
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-07-08
                                        • 946

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wangichu
                                        Friday 7/27/09

                                        FLA ML +112 (3 units)
                                        MIN ML +112 (2units)
                                        CHW -1.5 +124 (2units)
                                        OAK ML +109 (1 unit)

                                        crazy... i almost threw that last unit on the rays because of the plus money, but i felt compelled to at least have half of my units be exclusive. Hopefully we're both just on the money train today.
                                        57.28 + 2.81 = 60.09 units

                                        +.09 net units

                                        7-6<!-- / message -->
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                                        • wangichu
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 11-07-08
                                          • 946

                                          #21
                                          Saturday 7/18

                                          LAD -1.5 +127 (3 units)

                                          just got back from a birthday vacation witnessing my boys get slapped last night so tonight's pretty automatic in this one
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                                          • wangichu
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 11-07-08
                                            • 946

                                            #22
                                            adding

                                            SD ML +101 (2 units)
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                                            • wangichu
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-07-08
                                              • 946

                                              #23
                                              adding

                                              ARI ML +122 (1 unit)
                                              MIN ML +123 (1 unit)
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                                              • wangichu
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-07-08
                                                • 946

                                                #24
                                                oh crap, hat's supposed to be milwaukee, not minnesota

                                                please change that to MIL ML... my bad
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                                                • shoebox
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-26-08
                                                  • 5710

                                                  #25
                                                  e
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                                                  • shoebox
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-26-08
                                                    • 5710

                                                    #26
                                                    bank 66.98
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                                                    • wangichu
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-07-08
                                                      • 946

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by wangichu
                                                      Saturday 7/18

                                                      LAD -1.5 +127 (3 units)

                                                      just got back from a birthday vacation witnessing my boys get slapped last night so tonight's pretty automatic in this one
                                                      Originally posted by wangichu
                                                      adding

                                                      SD ML +101 (2 units)
                                                      Originally posted by wangichu
                                                      adding

                                                      ARI ML +122 (1 unit)
                                                      MIL ML +123 (1 unit)
                                                      60.09 + 8.28 = 68.37

                                                      +8.37 net units

                                                      11-6
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                                                      • wangichu
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-07-08
                                                        • 946

                                                        #28
                                                        sunday 7/19

                                                        FLA ML +116 (2 units)
                                                        BOS ML +117 (2 units)
                                                        DET ML +130 (2 units)
                                                        OAK ML +110 (1 unit)
                                                        TEX ML +108 (1 unit)
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                                                        • shoebox
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-26-08
                                                          • 5710

                                                          #29
                                                          Look at Wang in the lead, I better step my game up!
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                                                          • shoebox
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-26-08
                                                            • 5710

                                                            #30
                                                            Nice work
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                                                            • shoebox
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-26-08
                                                              • 5710

                                                              #31
                                                              sea -118 2 units
                                                              wash +119 2 units
                                                              det +1.5 -154 6 units
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                                                              • wangichu
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-07-08
                                                                • 946

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by shoebox
                                                                Look at Wang in the lead, I better step my game up!
                                                                wow... that didn't last long... hell of a nice call on the +1.5... i need to learn when to fire on those.

                                                                I'm adding 1 unit to the texas game, so my final play there is

                                                                TEX ML +108 (2 units)
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                                                                • shoebox
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-26-08
                                                                  • 5710

                                                                  #33
                                                                  bank 72.98
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                                                                  • wangichu
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-07-08
                                                                    • 946

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by shoebox
                                                                    Look at Wang in the lead, I better step my game up!
                                                                    Originally posted by wangichu
                                                                    sunday 7/19

                                                                    FLA ML +116 (2 units)
                                                                    BOS ML +117 (2 units)
                                                                    DET ML +130 (2 units)
                                                                    OAK ML +110 (1 unit)
                                                                    TEX ML +108 (2 units)
                                                                    68.37 - 4.84 = 63.53

                                                                    +3.53 net units

                                                                    12-10

                                                                    terrible play calling on sunday...
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                                                                    • shoebox
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-26-08
                                                                      • 5710

                                                                      #35
                                                                      So for Mondays action July 20, 2009



                                                                      Washington Nationals -130 ............ 5 units
                                                                      Milwaukee Brewers +108 .............................. 3 units
                                                                      Atlanta Braves Run Line +137 ................. 3 units
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